Originally posted by Spoodily
Need an expert on physics, not gravity propulsion. I just want to know if the way the 'stablizers' raise and lower are at the appropriate times for
the craft to move in the directions it does. If it is CGI, that is a lot of foresight on both the animator and the photographer.
Again, if you don't have a theory of gravity propulsion, i.e. some new physics, then it's impossible to say!
Actually, there is one very likely fact about some hypothetical magic ET gravity-propulsion which we could deduce from current physics.
If it is really gravitational, then you would expect to see strong optical
distortion effects near an operational gravity-manipulating craft.
In a few UFO reports you hear about reports of 'shimmering' of 'popping in and out' and at night, of lights separating and merging. These are
ones which might intrigue me. Some hypothesize then that these are some kind of "transdimensional beings" or some sort. What about a simpler
hypothesis? (other than "human error, no ETs are here") Gravitational lensing. I.e. all the effects are gravito-optical illusions. The craft
doesn't 'wink out of existence', it just looks like it did from one observer's viewpoint. It aren't splitting into many parts, it just looks like
And if the source modification of gravity were not just ordinary mass (as in Einstein GR) but some hypothetical magic technology squillions of times
more powerful than mass, the patterns could be even weirder than gravitational lensing as we know it, which is already pretty weird.
Another consequence of hypothesizing gravity manipulation for ET craft---when they turn on their warp drive, they might be blind. Normal vision
requires some kind of flat spacetime and that probably precludes weird gravity manipulation. If they're in a warp bubble protecting them from
inertia then maybe it protects them from electromagnetism coming in? Is that why they fly in 'spurts'? They pick a point to go, and then look
out to see where they really ended up. Or at least there would be some kind of gravitational distortion & red/blueshifting as they looked out.
A real example of one light source producing four apparent points of light.
Of course this level of gravity manipulation takes a galaxy worth of mass as we know gravity according to Einstein.
BTW the Gravity Probe B (a stunningly amazing spacecraft in development for 50 years!) showed first result totally consistent with Einstein. This
was a fine grained probe of a small GR effect. Next will be frame dragging, an even tinyer effect.
In real world physics, we have never seen any violation of Einsteinian general relativity; it's amazing.
By the way, this is one way how the John Titor hoax was debunked. The hoaxer got one thing right---that gravity (the supposed micro blackhole using
time machine) will warp light and so there was a picture of a red "beam" bending down supposedly due to gravity.
But in reality, the background of any such true picture would also have been warped in odd ways, and it wasn't.
By the way as well, some of the reports I've seen from Bob Lazar also report, in effect, tabletop gravitational lensing effects though he never used
[edit on 21-4-2007 by mbkennel]