My View of the Universe,And What We Are.

Originally posted by Mayan2012
Man dont be like all these sheeple out there.

Apparently you're telling me not to be like a sheeple. Let's go over this then.

1.) You say that the "universe"/Existence created itself, but that it is eternal, there is no edge and no outside, it is simply every where for ever, eternally, with no beginning and no end (immeasurable).

2.) By saying that it created its self you now create a paradox of the "eternal" Existence. You comprehend that nothing does and doesn't Exist (the duality of Nothing, I hope) yet you say that the Existence had a beginning.

3.) Points 1 and 2 now conflict. If there is no outside because nothing is NOTHING, then there can be no beginning and be no ending. To incorporate a creation is to have a Nothing Existing before Existence. Well, since we know what Nothing is, defined by you, we know that this is impossible.

Therefore your theory is wrong and you are the sheeple projecting and reflecting your own consciousness through me as your solution.

4.) To have a center in a "3d" experience is to have a 360 range of potential alignment. Now here 360 degrees means 100% chance that we are aligned with the "galactic center" at any and every second of every day.

Now if you think about this some more you'll come to realize that we are also aligned with every thing else in the "universe". 1d and 2d do not Exist independent of 3D, we do not and can not experience linear space because Nothing does not Exist.

A 2d shape theorizes (and lies) by saying that it does not need a 3rd dimension. Our Existence is defined by "3d", to have Nothing as any one of those dimensions is to cause the entire Existence to cease Existing. This is why Nothing is important and why nothing is not important.

Thank you for your outlook and perception on Existence

[edit on 17-4-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]

[edit on 17-4-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]

so you'll asend, with a few others and every one else will die....wow you dont love your self

but i got to say i 99% argee with you, i believe in asention and that the time for asention is near

did i say everone else will die? , wtf Actually read all my posts before making a stupid half assed post.

Death is the same as Ascension !

when i say a "few" ppl will Asend it doesnt really mean a "few" its a few out of the whole world.

call it 10% or 20% ....id say 90% of the Earth today are Sheeple. They follow what the government tells them,and live their lives like its the only thing they've got going for them. They have no outlook on the Universe,and are trapped in their own little world.

THOSE people wont Ascend,. Simply because they arent READY for it.

Can you imagine people Ascending,Not knowing about anything?

This thread is MY theory on life and the Universe and how We will Ascend,

YOU dont have to believe a THING i say. You really dont. The Universe gave us free choice. If you cant grasp the concept of Ascension then you will just have to wait till your life is over.

As for me and the other 10% of the world, We will be Ascending on dec 21st 2012.

Simple as that

-Mayan

Will you be disappointed if you don't ascend?

And what would you think if an ascension took place of 50% of the earths current population and you were not one of them?

What would you think?

What would you do?

Id carry on with my Life and id wait to Ascend when i died,just like Everyone else.

i wouldnt be sad,or angry. i told you. Im open minded to everything,and just because i dont believe in god doesnt mean that there isnt a "possibility" that there is a God.

im pretty sure ill Ascend though. i have been into Astronomy Since i was a child.

and i have always asked myself the same questions about the meaning of life , and how the Universe works all my life.

i Will Ascend. i have the mind for it and im Ready for it.

-Mayan

Sounds reasonable enough, but why do you believe -you- will be one of the few who ascend? What exactly determines who does and who doesn't?

So wait... by dying, I can ascend.... so why don't I just kill myself now and I can ascend before you? Sucked in! Why wait till 2012?

*disclaimer* no, I won't really kill myself, not THAT stupid..

Commiting suicide does strange things to your Energy.
i dont know exactly what,but you wont Ascend if you kill yourself. Thats not what the Universe intended for us. Ppl that kill themselves,their Energy gets Recycled into the Universe to start over again.

We are here for a reason. That reason is to Learn. and obtain Virtues,and Morals.

Love one and other. the Universe is a Peaceful place. It doesnt want bad Energies infecting it.

-Mayan

Mayan2012,

Are you going to reply to the analysis of your belief on the bottom of page two. If you missed it I am informing you that it is there. Thanks. I'd really like to see what you have to say about it. There is an inescapable paradox that you have created, and we need to fix it.

Sincerely,
L.O.V.E.

Didn't read all reply's but ...

say this is true. what if the wormhole did open, but no one or no thing revealed itself. given the secrecy of the Illuminati, do you think the wormhole would be reveal to the public.

A transformation is to happen to humans, but what if we had to, as an intelligent species, find a way to transform ourselves into this energy in order to use the wormhole. we are a very physically minded species and I don't know if we're capable of understanding outside the physical realm. maybe it's not so much a trasformation of our bodies as it is discovering the technology to traverse a wormhole (e.i. the "clothes" and "hat" that are worn through the gate).

but, if the Illuminati were to own the knowledge of this and they also controlled the world, as in NWO, I beleive this knowledge would go unbeknownst to the general public. 2012 would come and go and nothing would be recognized, but by a select few. who after ravaging the world with their greed and destruction – went out to travel the universe and continue their destructive ways there.

almost seems unfair. but then again, don't they say "Life isn't fair."

Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
Apparently you're telling me not to be like a sheeple. Let's go over this then.

1.) You say that the "universe"/Existence created itself, but that it is eternal, there is no edge and no outside, it is simply every where for ever, eternally, with no beginning and no end (immeasurable).

2.) By saying that it created its self you now create a paradox of the "eternal" Existence. You comprehend that nothing does and doesn't Exist (the duality of Nothing, I hope) yet you say that the Existence had a beginning.

3.) Points 1 and 2 now conflict. If there is no outside because nothing is NOTHING, then there can be no beginning and be no ending. To incorporate a creation is to have a Nothing Existing before Existence. Well, since we know what Nothing is, defined by you, we know that this is impossible.

Therefore your theory is wrong and you are the sheeple projecting and reflecting your own consciousness through me as your solution.

4.) To have a center in a "3d" experience is to have a 360 range of potential alignment. Now here 360 degrees means 100% chance that we are aligned with the "galactic center" at any and every second of every day.

Now if you think about this some more you'll come to realize that we are also aligned with every thing else in the "universe". 1d and 2d do not Exist independent of 3D, we do not and can not experience linear space because Nothing does not Exist.

A 2d shape theorizes (and lies) by saying that it does not need a 3rd dimension. Our Existence is defined by "3d", to have Nothing as any one of those dimensions is to cause the entire Existence to cease Existing. This is why Nothing is important and why nothing is not important.

Thank you for your outlook and perception on Existence

Your Right, i cant argue with any of that. Because its True. But you have to understand that the Universe has been around for eternity. Its never going to Die, and it will always be Infinite.
When i say the Universe created itself, i meant the Energy Created it.But that Energy is the Universe. I know it doesnt make sense to you. not does it make sense to alot of other people. But im trying my hardest to explain in laymans terms.

The only person ive ever talked openly about this is my Father. We both have the same outlook on the Universe,and Ascending. So please Forgive me for not making everything clear

-Mayan

Re-member that eternity is eternal. There can never be an end nor can there be a beginning. There can be no creation and no creator of Existence. Eternal energy is eternal energy. Eternal is space and time.

It's okay, thank you for sharing here with us and for doing your best to explain what you believe in. It is appreciated I enjoyed the conversation. You have been for given of our errors

Grattitudes

[edit on 18-4-2007 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]

Originally posted by Mayan2012
Humanity hasnt been alive for 26,000 years O.o .... lol

Lol wut ?

Hehe, ohhhkay !

Didnt mean it like that.

I meant we werent really an advanced civilization 26,000 years ago.

Hell we thought things like lightning was magic lol

-Mayan

Mayan 2012,

I have a genuine question?

If you truly believe you will ascend when this date comes around and you will no longer exist as a living human being on this earth?
You therefore have roughly four and a half years of life as we know it left.
Do you plan to live your daily life like the rest of us normal folk, eating, sleeping, working, socialising, taking care of your family and friends, taking out the trash etc etc etc.
I am just curious, I have no such beliefs as I am not as spiritual a person, I am openminded and have many beliefs but I know that if I had a sincere belief that life as I know it was due to change in such a short space of time I am sure it would change my outlook and general view on how I spend the remainder of my days here.

Thanks.

Ascension and death are not the same things. Ascension is the highest goal one could hope to achieve whilst incarnated. It is the process of becoming conscious of all levels of your own existence/or achieving whats known as Christ Consciousness. Death is just the return to spirit, and from there you will get to reincarnate again, and again, until you learn all you need to learn in order begin walking "the path".

Originally posted by pmexplorer
Mayan 2012,

I have a genuine question?

If you truly believe you will ascend when this date comes around and you will no longer exist as a living human being on this earth?
You therefore have roughly four and a half years of life as we know it left.
Do you plan to live your daily life like the rest of us normal folk, eating, sleeping, working, socialising, taking care of your family and friends, taking out the trash etc etc etc.
I am just curious, I have no such beliefs as I am not as spiritual a person, I am openminded and have many beliefs but I know that if I had a sincere belief that life as I know it was due to change in such a short space of time I am sure it would change my outlook and general view on how I spend the remainder of my days here.

Thanks.

im going to live out the rest of my life the same as usual. because i dont know 100% certain that im going to Ascend on dec 21st 2012. Nor am i 100% Certain that anyone else will. Its simply a theory,and belief of my own and a few others.
If i Ascend on dec 21st 2012 then so be it. If i dont? then i will live out my life until the day i die - in which i will Ascend.

Either way its all the same. Im actually going to talk to my father about it again tonight. Ill discuss the differences of Ascending when you Die and Ascending in 2012.

Kind Regards.

-Mayan