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Originally posted by Justin Oldham
The simple fact of the matter is that the human body can sustain a great deal of punishment. the shooter was probably being overly mythodical, using a rythm of sorts to pace his efforts. Will it turn out that he was trained in basic firearms use? I don't know. The average person can be lethal with just a few minutes of training.
The speed and pace of his attack suggests that he had a high degree of intent as he engaged. The fact that he wasted so many rounds on doors suggests that he was running on raw hate and agression. The timing of his suicide suggests that he had some idea of just exactly when he wanted to do it. We're never going to know for sure.
All of the weapons Gill had in his possession can be legally purchased and owned by a civilian in Canada. However, because of the Cx4 Storm's legal classification, specific criteria must be met for different configurations of the carbine. As manufactured by Beretta, the Cx4 Storm is a semi-automatic, pistol-calibre center-fire carbine with a 422mm barrel length. As such, it is categorized as "restricted" in Canada. Any person possessing a firearms license (PAL) with restricted-class privileges may purchase this weapon, subject to the approval of the Chief Firearms Officer of the respective province.Kimveer Gill did in fact have a restricted-class firearms license and his weapons were registered with the Canadian gun registry. Therefore, he owned the weapons legally under Canadian law though he did not obtain an ATT to bring the firearm to the school so it was transported illegally.
Originally posted by Astronomer70
Well Justin I have to admit I am frustrated. (The next statement will likely lead to my lynching, but here goes.) Mostly I'm frustrated by the apalling ignorance and apathy of the American public at large. I think perhaps Isaac Asimov (?) may well have been correct when he wrote that in a true democracy the public will vote for only two things--bread and circuses. I keep hoping the Internet/World Wide Web will lead to a resurgence in the involvement of ordinary people in the governance of their countries--and in all honesty, it may. However, I'm not the most patient of men.
A professor who taught a student whose gun rampage at Virginia Tech left 32 people dead says she warned university officials about his behaviour.
Lucinda Roy said she became concerned after Cho Seung-hui wrote disturbing pieces for a creative writing class.
The 23-year-old South Korean has been described as a loner and an introvert.
Originally posted by Dulcimer
When something like this occurs we should be looking at what provoked this individual to go on this rampage in the first part.
It is not about the guns, the weapons etc.
People need to start listening to "troubled" individuals.
Originally posted by asala
Update on new of this today,
Seems that this boy was a loner, Also teachers had refereed him to councillor as they where disturbed by his recent writings in his English class,
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I keep seeing posts pop-up blaming guns and fewer blaming violent video games but there seems to be another common thread that people are either overlooking or ignoring.
Perhaps all of these school shootings, if not simply the fault of the crazy guy doing the shooting, can be blamed on the schools and the state of modern educational institutions?
If youre going to start blaming things other than the jerk who commited the act then you cant just stop on the excuse that fits your particular cause or ideals ie guns and video games. You are obligated to keep scanning until all possible excuses have been identified.
Since this kid was a student there why not blame the system?
Lets say that guns do kill people. Something sent him down to the shop and moved him to spend $500 on two pistols, more on ammunition, more on his little outfit and something caused him to spend months planning an attack on his classmates. Did the guns do that? He didnt get the guns and then magically become crazy. Video games seem like a more reasonable culprit being that he most likely played them for years prior to this. But the schools? He's been in school his whole life. Im sure the schools had some influence on his behavior. At least I'm willing to bet the schools had more of a hand in shaping this boys character than playing video games or holding a gun in his hand.