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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 11:52 AM by loss_by_default
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Like I said, im sure alot of what we "assume" mars to be, geographical wise, are based off our observations of earth.
There is alot we don't know. We aren't even 100% sure that mars has a liquid/solid iron core. For all we know, the tectonic plates could look like a
bag of lays chips with some guy sitting on it. Hell, it could be so wierd has to not have tectonic plates. It leaves a very large hole as far as
assuming what is natural and what isn't.
Am I right? Correct me if im wrong please. Just seems like common scence.
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 11:56 AM by zorgon
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Originally posted by Oblate Spheroid
Ill just say that with todays CGI technology virtually ANYTHING can be faked
Sadly you are correct... so then going by that statement do we stop searching?
Now it can be argued that since the data from outer space is sent electronically and the photos are created here on Earth that an independant could
intercept the signal and make his own copy (This has actually been done)
Well NASA has the answer to that as well... Algorithms... Seems the Rovers and I assume all the spaceships... have built in anomaly recognition
software that automatically edit stop and apply that Algorithm
So there you have it...
But some of the older images say of the Moon before 1972 that got printed before editing set in are good hunting zones and don't talk to me about the
quality of the images because the contractor who made them states they were good enough to recognize a card table on the surface...
Problem is the Department of Defense got those versions LOL
So we look in the hopes of finding something they missed...
No one is perfect
And we apply image analysis to spot the fakes from the real, something not easy to do for the average person who only views the photos in a
browser.
But one cannot help but wonder the purpose of those skeptics who constantly insist "nothing but your imagination" or "tricks of the mind" "tricks
of light and shadow" or "they are just rocks"
LOL they begin to sound like a broken record Same words every thread...
At least anomaly hunters find some really cool images, no matter what they truly show..
Golf anyone?
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 11:56 AM by MrPenny
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Originally posted by zorgon
Come on Mike you know "they" don't want to address any real issues... Do you know that in all the times that image has been posted NOT ONE SKEPTIC
has spoken out against it? They always either ignore it or bring up the old face...
O.K., I'll bite.
Its a "same s**t, different day" kind of thing. Remove the 'visual aids', present it in an uncropped version with that area not centered in the
image, and you have the same thing. Wishful thinking and fancy.
Its not even a "real issue" zorgon. Its the same issue. Consider it "skeptically spoken out against".
Added re; golfball: Why do I see the same 'stippled' effect outside of the crater? With some linear features to it also, to boot? The shape is
such that the eye is drawn to its familiarity and the perceived texture completes the illusion.
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 11:57 AM by Becker44
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Ignorant Is Bliss,
I'm not here to defend selfless he/she is doing just fine. I did want to ask you to clarify something you have stated emphatically in a couple of
your posts.
You mention the planet Mars is "Bone Dry" and has never had water. Now using your self appointed scientific superiority would you please provide us
lesser humans with your deductive reasoning. We look forward to being enlightened.
Here's a little link to help you, help us!
www.msss.com...
Becker
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 12:00 PM by Marduk
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whats WRONG with YOU all
CANT you SEE its A cover UP
N.A.S.A is THE antichrist
THEY are HIDING the TRUTH
AMERICA is THE whore OF baylon THE great
they have fabricated everything from teflon to popu up toasters
life IS an ILLUSION
GEORGE bush IS the MESSIAH
neil ARMSTRONG is JUDAS iscariot
dick CHENEY is ST paul REINCARNATED
and the face on mars was built by aliens as a faithful interpretation of what they looked like
its not their fault they had elephantitus
see
perfect match
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 12:06 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by loss_by_default
Like I said, im sure alot of what we "assume" mars to be, geographical wise, are based off our observations of earth.
Well there is one thing on Mars that is totally Alien, nothing like it on Earth... so you are correct...
Imagine levitating dry ice sheets over miles of the Polar region The sun heats the ground beneath the "dry ice" and the released CO2 as the ice
melts from the bottom up builds pressure and literally lifts the sheet of ice...
Then as holes melt in the sheet the pressure releases in geysers of black sand...
WOW now THAT is interesting no?
Its been covered in other threads, but you can see the mages and data here...
landoflegends.us...
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 12:15 PM by loss_by_default
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Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by loss_by_default
Like I said, im sure alot of what we "assume" mars to be, geographical wise, are based off our observations of earth.
Well there is one thing on Mars that is totally Alien, nothing like it on Earth... so you are correct...
Imagine levitating dry ice sheets over miles of the Polar region The sun heats the ground beneath the "dry ice" and the released CO2 as the ice
melts from the bottom up builds pressure and literally lifts the sheet of ice...
Then as holes melt in the sheet the pressure releases in geysers of black sand...
WOW now THAT is interesting no?
Its been covered in other threads, but you can see the mages and data here...
landoflegends.us...
Yeah I remember seeing that. Things like that are amazing
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 12:16 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by MrPenny
O.K., I'll bite.
Remove the 'visual aids', present it in an uncropped version with that area not centered in the image, and you have the same thing. Wishful
thinking and fancy.
Nice to know I can count on you, Mr Penny...
Okay here is the image as it is clipped straight from the original Malin image
Unfortunately the original image does not fit into the forum. The other reason to clip it is simply because very few people can handle the full res
images, nor have a graphic editor to view them..
However this face has not been reoriented and is just like that in the original which is here... Coincidentally just below the really closeup view of
the Cydonia Pyramid... Another point no one has mentioned LOL
www.msss.com...
Nothing required except a good pair of eyes... scan down the image until the "pyramid" jumps out at you in bright clear relief... its just on the
ridge beneath that...
As to what you see in the "golf ball" image, you fall into the same trap as you claim we do... you see what you want to see...
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 12:19 PM by rrahim1
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It could be that the atmosphere conditions that existed during the creation of the face only exists in Mars and that's what caused it to make that
shape. Rather than teh regular shape of mountains we observe on Earth was in a completely different setting not to mention miles away from Mars, the
sun, and gravitation pull.
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 01:12 PM by zorgon
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Cydonia Pyramids - Ponies Roped and Tied
Image One:
Overview of "Pentagonal Pyramid"
BTW the other face that Mike posted would be located in the bottom left corner just below that "ridge" and would be along a line drawn from the
diagonal facing left 45 degrees down..
I will add a line later..
Here is a new closeup from NASA (yeah yeah I know  ) of the "Pentagonal Pyramid" at cydonia...
Here is the other pyramid I posted earlier with lines added from the website I found it on...
And here we have it in full living color...
www.keithlaney.net...
Nothing to see here folkes... move along...
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 01:39 PM by selfless
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Originally posted by zorgon
I DON'T CARE IF MARS HAS AN ARTIFICIAL FACE ON IT, EITHER WAY WON'T CHANGE A THING IN MY EXISTENCE.
Now if the above statement is true... then WHY ARE YOU HERE DISCUSSING IT? LOL Makes no sense to me... Silly Lemming
Because you misinterpret my meaning yet again...
I don't care wetter they are artificial or not meaning that i don't want one more then the other so i am not biased and blinded to only evidence
that shows there are artificial structures on mars.
But I am still interested in the subject, i seemed to have difficulties communicating last night even though i must have repeated my self like 20
times.
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 01:42 PM by Togetic
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Originally posted by mrbocci
Am I the only one who just doesn't see anything? Not that I don't want to, just can't see any resemblance at this high resolution That
*may* be because there's nothing there. Just a thought.
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 01:47 PM by MrPenny
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Originally posted by zorgon
Okay here is the image as it is clipped straight from the original Malin image
Please fix the image that is breaking format, please?
Thanks zorgon....now its even more clearly a natural geological formation that looks remarkably like a face.
I don't know why we persist. I'm pretty sure everyone is in agreement....sometimes, features of geology come together to form shapes and shadows
that remind of us faces.
A thought occurs to me......why not genitalia? Or hands? If other cultures wanted to send messages....why aren't examples of these things held up as
deep mysteries?
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 02:50 PM by frayed1
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Originally posted by el cid
here's something a little eerie -- turn the pic upside down and IMO, it resembles the head of a Grey.
I just noticed this myself.......and I find myself wondering if they (NASA) presented this photo 'upside down' so we wouldn't quite notice that
resemblence??......Hummmm
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 03:03 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by MrPenny
I don't know why we persist. I'm pretty sure everyone is in agreement....sometimes, features of geology come together to form shapes and shadows
that remind of us faces.
That is a good question and one I have asked many times, yet no one can give me a straight answer...
I know why I persist... I have seen enough anomalies to convince me that there is something going on at least on the Moon. And I do not mean faces.
But the faces are interesting and popular and draw attention to all the outer space imagery, some of which is truly awesome and mind boggling.
Whether or not you see rocks or Alien constructs doesn't change the fact that we all really do want to find something. I cannot speak for anyone
else... but don't forget a very important thing here. Psychiatrists use the rorschach images to determine how your thought processes work...
I would be very leary of those who "see nothing" I bet they are highly unstable  It is my opinion that looking at these "faces" trains the mind
to be more perceptive and thus once easily spotted and identified, they can then be eliminated from the anomaly hunt, but you now have a better
trained eye to see the other stuff. This is only my opinion, but its based on observation of responses and tests on unsuspecting victims BWAHAHA
So that said, perhaps Mr Penny you could tell me why YOU persist as I see you in all the anomaly threads.
A thought occurs to me......why not genitalia? Or hands? If other cultures wanted to send messages....why aren't examples of these things held up as
deep mysteries?
Well simply because no board would tolerate that because of fact they are open to all ages. It would also be in poor taste and bring out the really
worst comments so its best not to go there. But someone posted one just recently in the Mars thread not sure which...
They used to put naked females patterns into ice cubes for subliminal advertising to make you want to drink more, until that was outlawed... never
worked on me, but I have a cool collection of easy to spot "scenes" in those old magazine ads...
Maybe all the faces etc we see are some subconscious message trying to get through... Alien subliminal messageing hmmmm might be on to something
here.
As to why the faces appear more human like than Alien? Well whats an Alien look like? Sure we have the "Greys" but if its true that the Gods made us
in their image, why do the aliens have to look different than us? Never could understand that logic . And if man did originate from Mars or some other
world, well we would still look the same...
Yup I think I will go with subliminal messaging for now
Now it also seems that we are not the only ones hunting faces... So be happy in the knowledge that even NASA scientists do the same thing, and then
shamelessly promote it...
Here is NASA's caption
Mars is Smiling!
It looks like Mars is happy to see us!
Image to left: This is the smiley face area on Mars. Credit: NASA
OH NOOO They are targeting our children!!! What hope do we have?
Source
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reply posted on 17-4-2007 @ 09:12 PM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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Originally posted by Becker44
Ignorant Is Bliss,
I did want to ask you to clarify something you have stated emphatically in a couple of your posts.
You mention the planet Mars is "Bone Dry" and has never had water.
Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
www.abovetopsecret.com...
If you simply assumed that maybe ancient aliens constructed that long ago before the planet collapsed then perhaps you'd be more open to the
science and reason I'm presenting you with. Since I'll assume you believe aliens flew there and built that, tell me how or why did they go to all of
that trouble to build that face on a planet with virtually no atmosphere or water? If they flew there and did all that in the past then it seems
pretty obvious that they'd have come here too, and populated this prime planet instead of waste a perfectly good planet by throwing us
"monkeys" down here for an entertainment show ala the South Park "CANCELLED" episode.
Perhaps I could have been more clear, but I think I made sure not to assert that it never had water.
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reply posted on 18-4-2007 @ 04:15 AM by SonicInfinity
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Here's a video I found interesting about the subject:
www.youtube.com...
Markers around the face of Mars? Has this been discussed before? I also find the "new flow" of water interesting as well.
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reply posted on 18-4-2007 @ 12:33 PM by outlaw2007
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Originally posted by infinite8
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Why is it collapsed on one side? What was underneath it that gave way?
I was wondering the same thing.
ur not serious are u? it's not collapsed it's worn down from weather. i wish it were a structer that would prove inteligent life once lived on the
planet but i'm convinced it's not. the 3rd or 4th post on this thread had a link that showed a 3d model of the mountain and it's only like that on
one side. if it was a carving then it would be dug into on both sides not just one. i'm convinced that there was once life on mars but not
inteligent. if there was inteligent life on the planet at one time it was a long time ago and their long gone either left or died out and whatever
remains were left of their culture have been worn away by time.
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reply posted on 18-4-2007 @ 01:06 PM by zorgon
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Originally posted by outlaw2007 i'm convinced that there was once life on mars but not inteligent. if there was inteligent life on the
planet at one time it was a long time ago and their long gone either left or died out and whatever remains were left of their culture have been worn
away by time.
So what convinced yo? Do you have documents that you can share?
And why would all traces have been worn away by time? That is actually a pretty dumb statement considering the thousands of year old works of past
civilizations on Earth that we are still finding buried beneath desert sands
And that section of the "face" did collapse. Anyone with even rudimentary geological knowledge can see that... Just look back a few posts to the
Malin picture that I posted with the "Island" Just because it collapsed does not mean it was a construct, but it did collapse
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reply posted on 18-4-2007 @ 02:17 PM by lasse
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Oh there certainly is some pictures of weird stuff out there, beyond the obvious UFOs
Tried to get some input on these
Saw that one of them appeared here, I'm not saying it's a golfball (lol that'd be a huge one) or anything of the sort. I am saying it looks
interesting though.
Oh and considering the NASA ufo videos and how they've stopped with the live feeds..it's just like...c'mon, I guess I'm nuts but I'm just very
convinced NASA isn't giving away all sorts of little treats they've run into. There are just too many weird videos, pictures, statements from people
who has been involved.
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