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Why should I vote next year?

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posted on Apr, 15 2007 @ 09:02 PM
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I can vote next year, but why should I vote? The parties are a complete mess.

IMHO:

The general views of each parties.


Democrats- MORE TAX REFORMS LESS HOUSING COSTS MORE DRAFT=LESS WARS SAME SEX MARRIAGE IS BAD. Also, the war on Iraq, is evil, and like we have no proof that we aren't going to win. Plus, I don't want to beat al-quaeada because that's what the Republicans want to do. I am for the advancment of science and for stem cell research. I don't like how the Bush administration is taking away our 1st, 4th, and 8th amendment rights.

Republicans= More idiotic speeches, new world order, neo-zionist views, al-jazeera is evil, I am always right, no change, abortion is bad, we are a christian nation, "As a Republican I have to disagree with you" (when talking about Republicans to a republican, Bush made some mistakes but he got out of them, we did good on the GWOT.



If you are a voter... what would you do?

My conspiracy is that there is no reason for voting for both parties, as they will progress nowhere.

Can we find a balance between the two? Seriously.



posted on Apr, 15 2007 @ 09:13 PM
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If you don't vote, you can't bitch about what a bunch of losers are in power. plus..........

It's called being a good citizen.

As corrupt and fubar as everything seems. There is always hope!



posted on Apr, 15 2007 @ 09:21 PM
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I have always voted. to retain my right to complain.

I live in Utah and don't know a SINGLE PERSON who voted for Bush and I am very social and have many many friends..............
I TRULY believe ~'They'~ know how to steal an ellection and stole the last 2 elections....................so?

Why vote? I don't see any reason to anymore anyway.............
~'They'~ are going to do what ~'They'~ want to do anyway and it matters not one bit how the vote truly leans because we will never know the truth.

Voting used to actually matter.

It does NOT matter anymore IMHO.



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 09:14 AM
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As someone else said: "Voting does not matter." I can vote, but I loath both parties because they are one in the same. Just look behind the closed doors, they whine and moan in public but when it comes down to the job itself they both do the same thing. Thus if you do not like either: Vote for some third party who has not the closest chance of winning that way you can say: "Dont blame me, I didnt vote for EITHER of them!" The amusing part is I believe that is why a large part of the USA never votes: no reason to vote, get snubbed either way.



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 09:38 AM
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Vote for the lesser of the two evils I guess...even though were getting screwed either way.

Republican party = NWO, neo-cons, Nazis, corruption and special interests

Democratic party = Hillary (mabye), indecision, same old garbage candidates that won't do much to advance the nation



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Maverickhunter
why should I vote?


Because hundreds of thousands of people DIED so that you would have the privelege to vote in free elections.

Vote because of the people who have come before you, who were willing to give their lives (many did) in order to keep America free.

The voting process isn't perfect, but it was paid for in blood and American lives.

Vote to honor THEM.



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 09:47 AM
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I hate all political parties. I wish there were none. Because now we are a country divided with citizens who can't make decisions for themselves. Because of this, I have no idea who to vote for. If I had to choose, I guess I would say I'm slightly more democratic. But I don't want that to affect my judgement. I'd rather vote fairly and not based on the political party that someone is in.



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 11:49 AM
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If you don't vote, the message you (and collectively all non-voters) send is "Do whatever you want. We don't care". Now that's not really true, is it?

If you vote Democrat, or Republican you say, "Yes, I agree with you and the party policies", which based upon your post isn't true, either.

So you end up in a state of inertia, seeing only an untenable choice of equally undesirable outcomes.

But I'm here to tell you there is a cure and it's called The Libertarian Party. Do some research. Google it up. If everyone that viewed the Republicrat/Demican parties as hoplessly moribund would just vote 3rd party, we could effect some real change.

Maybe.

[Edit for typo]

[edit on 4/16/2007 by yeahright]



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 12:02 PM
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I was wondering if it's legal to sell your vote on ebay or something?



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 02:58 PM
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Actually our votes are sold every time we vote... Its called a voting machine or "hanging chads." Whoever wants X guy/gal in office yet can fork out 20 million or more, BAM! You own the vote! If not... like 99% of America... well your just SCREWED! Of course 40% of that WANTS those people in office, then there is 60% that do not, then 50% of the overall population that DOES NOT VOTE!
If you want to know how messed up people are in the head watch this movie: Red State Road Trip.

Vote for the lesser of two evils: Shame and dishonor.
Vote for who you truely want: honorable and wise.
Vote for someone who WONT win no matter WHAT: dodging the blame. WISE! Maybe not wholely honorable but very wise!

Take your pick of the three folks, that is what it boils down too in the USA.



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by Vekar
Vote for someone who WONT win no matter WHAT: dodging the blame. WISE! Maybe not wholely honorable but very wise!


Not honorable? I'll disagree with that. You don't necessarily have to win to effect some change. If a sufficient number of people voted for a 3rd party (say, Libertarian) candidate, the major parties would eventually have to pay attention to that platform in an effort to woo those votes.

Is someone who votes for a Democrat in a largely gerrymandered Republican congressional district "not wholely honorable"?

The only less than honorable act for the eligible electorate in a free election is to not vote.



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Maverickhunter
why should I vote?


Because hundreds of thousands of people DIED so that you would have the privelege to vote in free elections.

Vote because of the people who have come before you, who were willing to give their lives (many did) in order to keep America free.

The voting process isn't perfect, but it was paid for in blood and American lives.

Vote to honor THEM.

Hmm, I have not been to the topic lately, but I can see where you are getting at. I do not like each party, and I know that our founding fathers fought to get the vote, but that's where you are wrong. Hundreds of people died so that we could have the constitution of the United States. It wasn't until after the 1800s that all of these racial free voting right laws were passed as legislation.



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by yeahright

Originally posted by Vekar
Vote for someone who WONT win no matter WHAT: dodging the blame. WISE! Maybe not wholely honorable but very wise!


Not honorable? I'll disagree with that. You don't necessarily have to win to effect some change. If a sufficient number of people voted for a 3rd party (say, Libertarian) candidate, the major parties would eventually have to pay attention to that platform in an effort to woo those votes.

Is someone who votes for a Democrat in a largely gerrymandered Republican congressional district "not wholely honorable"?

The only less than honorable act for the eligible electorate in a free election is to not vote.

Are you saying that I am not being honerable by not voting? I don't think a single vote will change how people view both candidates.

I am going to be able to vote next year, after I register for selective service, before I am 18, I'll be able to vote, but I don't like either candidates, because I don't like how they are handling their campaign and they are not being very smart about it.



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by steve22
Vote for the lesser of the two evils I guess...even though were getting screwed either way.

Republican party = NWO, neo-cons, Nazis, corruption and special interests

Democratic party = Hillary (mabye), indecision, same old garbage candidates that won't do much to advance the nation

I seem to agree with your post Steve, the republicans are NWO neocons, and the Democrats seem to be backed by Hillary Clinton. Hopefully Barack Obama can bring an audicaty of hope to us, will he be the next Jerald Ford though? The question remains to be answered.



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
If you don't vote, you can't bitch about what a bunch of losers are in power. plus..........

It's called being a good citizen.

As corrupt and fubar as everything seems. There is always hope!

I am a good citizen but I cannot vote yet. You must have not understood my situation. I am 17, and I am going to be 18 next year, so then, I'll be able to vote, so why should I vote next year?



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 08:00 PM
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Mav: Voting for the ones who you KNOW will snub you is not honorable nor wise. Voting for those who are only going to help you dig your grave deeper and faster is not honorable nor wise. So why vote for repubs who are as you said: NWO. Then again, why vote dem. when they are going about it from a different manner? They prance and dance in front of you giving a good show but as I said when it comes to the core they are rotten. The only reason to vote is so you wont get blamed if something goes wrong which it will. Thus voting for a party that will NEVER win is a quick way of ducking out, such as green party or communist party, then against socialist.
Yeahright: My statement stands, it is not wholely honorable because you are voting mainly because they cannot win. None the less, we are at a stage where votes no longer matter, money does.
JFK: "The three things you need to be president are: money, money and more money."
It is wise though because as stated you will dodge blame if something goes wrong, "your party" lost remember? None the less due to the false "freedom" of voting we are not going to get anywhere unless they have finished their plans for the time being. I would like to quote what a member on ATS put on their "signature:"
"AHH! What Luck! Fascism you can vote for!"

Vote for two fascists parties or go for a 3rd or 4th who will never win. Once again building on the fake voting systems, or the SOLD OUT voting systems, it is impossible to change anything by playing their game.



posted on Apr, 16 2007 @ 10:50 PM
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What I see is more...

Democrats: Basically, it's easy. "Free stuff and no war!" Though they seem to advocate very counterproductive socialistic practices that sound good but really hurt the economy.

Republicans: It's a little more diverse.
You have McCain at one end of the spectrum, with interventionist beliefs (Iraq, Darfur) and a slightly authoritarian leaning.
Then you have Guliani, who's fairly moderate, seemingly making a compromise with health care reform (not good if he wants it to be paid by taxes, good if he wants to promote private businesses and more affordable care), also trying to gain more conservative voters by stating that gun control would not be as strict as it is in New York City.
Mitt Romney is a little more "conservative" than Guliani. He wants to ensure stability in Iraq (something I'm not sure I agree or disagree with), is a declared proponent of gun control, and wants mandatory health care for all citizens.

The candidate I like? With all my heart, Ron Paul. He is a Republican, but stands in stark contrast to the others, something that may cost him the election. He's basically... a closet libertarian, if you will. He was a registered as a lifelong libertarian before being nominated for representative of Texas.
He advocates strict non-interventionism, and voted against the Iraq War. He wants to secure our borders, stating that the government has failed in this crucial responsibility of securing our nation. He wants to minimize federal interference in the free market, seeking to abolish income tax, as well as to get rid of the Federal Reserve and replace it with the gold standard.

Here's something you might find interesting. He wants to re-open the 9/11 investigation.

I don't know, I just shameless advocated Ron Paul once again, but... He's the anti-government man who just made save us from a state on the verge of totalitarianism. Please, get over your party prejudice, and take a look at this man. In my opinion, he represents the liberalism that America was founded on, and was great because of.
Finding someone else like him is exceptionally difficult.

[edit on 16-4-2007 by Johnmike]



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 01:31 AM
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I have heard about Ron Paul however I still must push the question: is this too "good" to be true? Honestly, for a guy like him to even survive is a heck of a feat, ESPECIALLY since he claims to be a republican! They would have witch hunted this guy out by now for certain if they did not have a special plan for him. So be warry.
Anyway, 2008 will be a "fun" year no? ehehheheehehheeh MWAHAHAHAH! (evil laugh)



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 01:43 AM
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.Voting, getting involved in politics, especially locally, is the only way to foment, or at least help, change in our society.

I've reached the point where I loathe and dispise both of the major parties, despite opinions of some to the contrary
. But I will continue to be as involved in politics as my life will permit. To do anything else is to betray the memories and sacrifice of all those young men and women who died defending our nation.

That sounds trite, but its how I feel. There's another reason to be involved. Next time you drive by a school yard, look at those youngsters at recess, then try to excuse not being involved however you can to change whats wrong with our nation, and conversely, whats right as well.

Be involved, be informed, then excersize your constitutional duty...



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 02:34 AM
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I love to vote. I feel I have done something Important. However, I study every person before I vote for them. I want to know as much about them as I can. Today, the internet makes it easy to study and learn about the person who is running.

I don't vote for a party. I vote for whom I like.



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