Moore's 'SICKO' Stunt Takes 9/11 Workers To Cuba

Moore's 'SICKO' Stunt Takes 9/11 Workers To Cuba

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April 15, 2007 -- Filmmaker Michael Moore's production company took ailing Ground Zero responders to Cuba in a stunt aimed at showing that the U.S. health-care system is inferior to Fidel Castro's socialized medicine, according to several sources with knowledge of the trip.

The trip was to be filmed as part of the controversial director's latest documentary, "Sicko," an attack on American drug companies and HMOs that Moore hopes to debut at the Cannes Film Festival next month.

Two years in the making, the flick also takes aim at the medical care being provided to people who worked on the toxic World Trade Center debris pile, according to several 9/11 workers approached by Moore's producers

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Leave it to Michael Moore to find new ways to sink to even lower levels. His unique capacity for this can only be attributed to his immense "gravity." The thought of using 9/11 victims, first responders, and site workers to further his agenda is reprehensible. I could see this back firing on him (in a way, it already has, hence the news article), and becoming his "Waterloo."

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Well, I personally don't have a problem with this documentary, but I will
not be going to see it either, Michael Moore is to far to the weird-radical-
left for my tastes.


I was'nt aware Cuba had good healthcare, I mean it would'nt surprise me,
considering that they have been known for there doctors, but I suppose I
just never hear about Cuba enough to know about that.

They are known for spreading quite a bit of propaganda regarding their healthcare system, but if it was so great, why did they have to bring in a specialist from Spain to treat Fidel? I'd think if he was so confident in his own healthcare system he'd put his life where his mouth is.

Let's not miss his point (though I have not, of course, seen the movie)...ain't no reason why Americans can't have universal health care. If there's room for an HMO to pull profits out of the stystem, then the system can work just fine for that much less money.

Canada's system isn't perfect...nor is Cuba's, but those without private medical coverage still receive adequate health care. Nobody in this country gets turned away from a hospital because they don't have an HMO.

Anybody here think the 911 workers don't deserve the best health care their nation can provide? It oughtta be a no brainer...

I am a Cuban and although Cuba has nothing in the way of food, shelter, things we take for granted like transportation, cars, good schools, etc, by golly, they do have an excellent health care system with imminent doctors (they were not allowed to leave) and Castro does have the best said health system in the world.

Now, having said that, that Castro is a preck who has his people starving and everything is rationed and they're still wearing 50's style clothing there as well as 40's and 50's cars.

I'd rather have plenty of food TO PREVENT ILLNESS myself- whats the point in starving and then being treated by the best hospitals??? Makes no sense. I also know some of you have no idea whats going on in Cuba, and y0u fall for what you read. Let me tell you its HELL ON EARTH there with Castro hence the floating cars making it across the 60 mile stretch to Miami.
He can take his Health system and cram it where the sun dont shine.

Originally posted by dgtempe
Castro does have the best said health system in the world.

You mean Castro himself does, or Cuba in general, because as it stands
France is considered to have the best healthcare system in the world.

But you failed to mention this.......

Cuba has made recent advancements in biotechnology and exports its cancer treatments to 40 countries around the world, raking in an estimated $100 million a year, according to The Associated Press.

In 2004 the U.S. government granted an exception to its economic embargo against Cuba and allowed a California drug company to test three cancer vaccines developed in Havana, according to the AP.

Seems they might have something on the ball reguarding cancer drugs.

Some alternative treatments are not allowed in the US, and this would not be the first time US citizens have gone to other countries to get them......

Lester Maddox (former gov. of GA ) went to Mexico, recieved some treatments that were not 'legal' in the US, and afterward, as I recall, lived somewhat longer than his doctors had expected. I believe he was roundly critized for opting for some 'quack' treatment, as if he was influencing other patients to ignore their doctor's advice and go to a less 'professional' medical community.

I say, if it helps even one person, leave him alone, and let him do it.......hang his motives!

Originally posted by dgtempe
I am a Cuban
I'd rather have plenty of food TO PREVENT ILLNESS myself- whats the point in starving and then being treated by the best hospitals??? Makes no sense. I also know some of you have no idea whats going on in Cuba, and y0u fall for what you read. Let me tell you its HELL ON EARTH there with Castro hence the floating cars making it across the 60 mile stretch to Miami.
He can take his Health system and cram it where the sun dont shine.

You should qualify your Cuban-ness with what kind of Cubans your family was before Castro came? Were you from wealthy landed gentry who kept the majority of your poor uneducated and under the iron fist of wealthy rule for over 400 years or not? Cuba was your typical Spanish colonial society with 99% of the wealth controlled by 1% of the population before the Communist Revolution. The hard truth is that the vast majority of poor Cubans are/were better off under Castro's rule than under the previous govt's rule which is why the Bay of Pigs invasion failed so miserably not because the US failed to provide air support as so often mentioned by the Cuba Libre crowd.

Does the nation of Cuba need democratic political and economic reforms? Absolutely! Are they going to let the wealthy Cubano patrons come back? I wouldn't bet on it.

Originally posted by iori_komei


You mean Castro himself does, or Cuba in general, because as it stands
France is considered to have the best healthcare system in the world.

Their health system cannot be the best.

Iif it was the best they would not have had to call on Spaln. when he was so ill.





[edit on 4/15/2007 by shots]

Originally posted by shots
Their health system cannot be the best.

If it was the best they would not have had to call on Spain, when he was so ill.

Well, perhaps so, but I think I'll play the devil's advocate here.

Not every country has doctors for every condition, especially the more
rare ones, so it's not impossible that they have a good healthcare system,
but they needed a specialist, of which the few there are, the only one who
wished to help was from Spain.

Some of you are incorrigible. You have your books and your Cuban history all wrong. I lived it.
Cuba is by no means better off today than before Castro. For starters, you never had boats arriving on your shores BEFORE that sob.
Ask the other Cuban, Muaddib. He'll tell you what i have pointed out.

I suppose if i lived in India, i would know all about America as a result of a professor, books and classes on the subject. NOT.

Sorry, but its true.

Originally posted by iori_komei

Not every country has doctors for every condition, especially the more
rare ones, so it's not impossible that they have a good healthcare system,
but they needed a specialist, of which the few there are, the only one who
wished to help was from Spain.

Well if that is the condition they should not make the claim they have the best should they? I do hear what you are saying though and I agree but find it so odd he had such a rare condition their claim not mine.

[edit on 4/15/2007 by shots]

I agree with you, Shots, its more talk than action. They may have a good health system, but i doubt if its the BEST IN THE ENTIRE WORLD. Bah!!!
Propaganda BS.

Everyone's starving, but health care is exemplary.

Originally posted by shots
Well if that is the condition they should not make the claim they have the best should they? I do hear what you are saying though and I agree but find it so odd he had such a rare condition their claim not mine.

I agree, they should not be claiming that, and for more than just that
reason though.

I'm not sure if they said exactly what he had, I think it was supposedly
a stomach cancer, but it is od he would indeed get a rare cancer like that.

Michael Moore disgusts me.
All he does, is exploit people with real problems, puts his own commentary on it, and re-packages it as a "documentary".
Reprehensible.

Corporate schill greedy hypocrite scum.

Yeah, that's right, I said it.

Interesting about Cuba and the 40-50's. I guess if you keep the people from advanceing you can continue to controll them much better. I think it is sad for the generation before me, alot of them still Want to believe that we live in a democracy, its begining to look more and more like the type of set up for the new Mexican democracy than ever. I am surprised that Moore is going to Cuba and not Venisuela, after all they not only offered to send our Americans to college to become Doctors for free but Moore could have gotten gas at .05 cents per gallon for his movie crew. Hummm, I really wanted to like him.

I still stand by my comments.

He's a distraction.
He entices people to focus on the symptoms of the sicknesses of our society, and never the problems.

Do you think the kids from "Bowling for Columbine" have it any easier now than before they were in his "documentary"?
Hardly.

Detestable.

Two years in the making,

With his and/or external funding? That's quite a few bucks ... No ???

Travel to Cuba is severely restricted from the United States, but Moore's crew was granted access, the producer told McCormack, through a "general license that allows for journalistic endeavors there."

journalistic endeavors? ... more like profitable ventures, in my opinion.

Some called the trip a success, at least logistics-wise.

* emphasis mine

Some ... at least ... logistics-wise.

Yeah, imagine that. (?)

Although he has been a critic of Cuba, Moore grew popular there after a pirated version of his movie, "Fahrenheit 9/11," was played on state-owned TV.

Nothing like a proven market.

Go Michael ... nothing like capitalizing on the loss or at the cost of others ... NOT!

excrement through and through, regardless of self-proclaimed enlightenment ...

For only one thin dime, folks, one tenth of a dollar, one small silver coin, friends, ... come one, come all.

Another sideshow in the making, IMO.

:shk:



 

Originally posted by shots
Their health system cannot be the best.

Iif it was the best they would not have had to call on Spaln. when he was so ill.


[edit on 4/15/2007 by shots]

That makes no sense, the US probably has the most top specialists in the world so their healthcare must be the best and I must be imagining the millions of people unable to afford it.