Very WEIRD letter! Anyone know what this is about?

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posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Dragonlike
Let's sum up

#Hog with potatoes
#Go and DO the following
#Then take an iron pan, place it as an iron wall
#Now, take a clay tablet
#Take wheat and barley, beans and lentils, millet and spelt; put them in a storage jar and use them to make bread for yourself
#At 13:00 english time

Comments?


What's that time, in GMT terms?
(I don't want to be late)




posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 11:33 AM
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doesnt g.m.t run through england?



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 11:53 AM
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Additionally, looks like several other people in different neighborhoods in the UK received this same bundle... an envelope written in a childlike hand that contained 3 bundles of 3 copies stapled together in the upper right-hand corner.



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 12:29 PM
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HIN=8914
8914-7000=1914
1914=AIAD

?

I'm not really good at figuring these things out so excuse me if i'm going off track.

I couldn't really find anything about "aiad" in the bible except for some reference to the "threshing floor of aiad" but that was really hard to find.

Google Book Search



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 12:59 PM
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H O V I K A

Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread but when we substitute the numerical values of the above letters we get:

08:15:22 / 09-11-01

Now to me that is pretty darned close to the exact time Mohammed Atta took over the controls of Flight 11 before crashing it onto the north tower of the World Trade Centre.

Perhaps another line of thought to consider...



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 01:57 PM
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Blimey...9/11? now that has got to be a tangent-too-far!

I'm still convinced that this is part of some black/vengeance magick ritual directed ultimately to the owner of the listed phone-number...those who recieved the letters were meant to feel worried and intimidated and ultimately cause the 'target' harrassment.

Whoever sent the letters seems to have taken a whole gamut of esoteric bits and pieces and wrapped them up with a dash of their own ritualistic meanings...just from the little of graphology that I have studied, the handwriting on the envelope strikes me as being written by someone who is not too confident, ie: they are relying on spirit-entities to do the work that they dont have the guts to do themselves face-to-face.

This kind of malicious working is for no-one but cowards!

Whoever the intended target maybe, I sent to them my Karmic wishes for peace love and light



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by citizen smith

On a slight tangent, here is a scan of the handwritten envelope...does anyone else have any knowledge of graphology who could offer an interpretation???


I can tell you one thing - the writer did not write 'Huddersfield' on it, that has been added in the sorting office - so - it's been posted with only a partial address on it and note, there's no postcode.

Looking at the way the address is written, it seems to me like the writing of an older person, possibly elderly. May be a born and bred local who expects the postie to know where the place is as well as they do, on the other hand, they could have picked the target out of the phonebook as the addresses are not given in full with the postcode there.

Just a few observations...

The page itself reminds me *a little* of the MayDay Mystery which I spent a ridiculous amount of time working on, to little avail.

The patterning on the upward pointing arrow looks like it's meant to represent wood, I expect others have figured that though, it's pretty obvious. It could be the rune Tiwaz / Tir - which is the runic letter T and the name of the god who gave his name to Tuesday, but it could just be an arrow pointing upwards. If Hovika is a place in Norway, as has been said, then that would tally with it being a rune, but then again, it may not tally so well with the Biblical theme, given the pagan associations of runes.

Each of the letters of the word GODO are separated by lines, but it could be split into the words 'GO' and 'DO', ok, that's already been pointed out. The word void is also in there at the top centre, but that may not be deliberate.

Also don't forget Aleister Crowley's book entitled '777' (unfortunately I no longer have a copy so I can't look anything up). We could be looking at a wannabe occultist trying to put the shivers up folk just for fun.


Edit - I just finished reading through the thread on the Sheffield forum and I see that the OP there has confirmed that the address appears to have been copied from the phone directory. She's hoping to confer with the other two folks on there who have received these letters to see whether there is any connection to indicate how the targets have been picked out, for instance, whether they have the same surname - that may give a few small clues to what's going on at least, so it seems worthwhile keeping an eye on the Sheffield forum for an update on that.


[edit on 17-4-2007 by skjalddis]

[edit on 17-4-2007 by skjalddis]



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by torsion
H O V I K A

Not sure if this has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread but when we substitute the numerical values of the above letters we get:

08:15:22 / 09-11-01

It was.

Once more, and as far as I know, in the UK that date is writen 11-09-01.



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by thelibra
Additionally, looks like several other people in different neighborhoods in the UK received this same bundle...


This is getting serious...



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Shane Void
HIN=8914
8914-7000=1914
1914=AIAD

I'm not really good at figuring these things out so excuse me if i'm going off track.

You didn't take all the possibilities as a good mathematician would do.
Let's think of what you said:
HIN=8914
8914-7000=1914
1914=AIAD
if you consider 1=A, 9=I, 1=A, D=4
but there are more
¬19=S, 1=A, 4=D and we have SAD or DAS=(phoneticaly)DASH
¬1=A, 9=I, 14=N and we have A IN or IN A

but let's think more on maths:
you said HIN=8914 which means H=8, 9=I, 14=N (variables verified from hypothesis)
apparently we reject the two solutions and accept
the last:
(IN A)

Conclusion:
H IN-
(?) IN=
A IN

where [(?) IN]=7000

we have an equation!
let's solve it:
H IN - (?) = A IN => (H-A)* IN = (?) => 7* IN = (?), but as we mentioned before [(?) IN]=7000
we have 7* IN = 7000 => IN= 1000!

let's return at the conclusion:
H IN= 8000

and we have
H IN-
(?) IN=
A IN
or
8000-
7000=
1000
which is correct!

www.biblegateway.com...

Also measure out a sixth of a hin

8000*(1/6)=1333,33333333333333333333...
Here we take from 1333 the date:
13/3/3
or
13/03/03 (Where zeros can be omitted)


en.wikipedia.org...
March 13 - Human evolution: The journal Nature reports that 350,000-year-old upright-walking human footprints had been found in Italy.


Hell, that a conspirancy!




[edit on 17-4-2007 by Dragonlike]



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 07:42 PM
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I didn't notice anyone mention, but that looks like a broken cross. Possibly anti-christian. I dont have the slightest clue of what this means though.



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by Dragonlike
and we have
H IN-
(?) IN=
A IN
or
8000-
7000=
1000
which is correct!

www.biblegateway.com...

Also measure out a sixth of a hin

8000*(1/6)=1333,33333333333333333333...
Here we take from 1333 the date:
13/3/3
or
13/03/03 (Where zeros can be omitted)


en.wikipedia.org...
March 13 - Human evolution: The journal Nature reports that 350,000-year-old upright-walking human footprints had been found in Italy.


Hell, that a conspirancy!
[edit on 17-4-2007 by Dragonlike]


Wow wow wow. Great job Dragonlike, as well as everyone else here. But, I thought the puzzle would yield something more than just an archaeological event...



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 08:13 PM
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I'd like to mention something that has absolutely nothing to do with 9/11, Israel, or Norwegian death metal...

In two days, the combined mental efforts of all the posters on this board and others, have yielded no definitive conclusions. There have been people cracking away at an image that may be nonsense in the first place, and thus far all theories based on the assumption that there is a truly meaningful message in the image have been unconvincing at best. Even the jokes haven't been funny (sorry guys, but they haven't, you've all been erring on the side of "too hokey"). These letters are sent to individuals (though with copies, perhaps to share with friends) who evidently are not expecting them and find no inherent significance in or to them.

People who have something that they want to say typically do so in reasonably clear language, not encoded in Hebrew and bizarro math.

I submit then that it is not ultimately important to the sender that the recipient comprehend the message (which, again, may or may not have been nonsense from the beginning), meaning efforts to read it are likely equally unimportant. Thus the truly important question here, as with most things, is the causal one and not the mechanical one. Put differently, "why was it sent?" is a more important question than "what does it say?" Too bad that one is probably more difficult to answer. What I'm ultimately saying here is that I don't think any of us are going to get much satisfaction out of further pursuit into this...

The best theory thus far, that also at least attempts to follow the path of least resistance, is that the letter is engineered to provoke a call to the telephone number that was mentioned elsewhere.

/tn.



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 09:50 PM
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Can we get more detail as to where it came from and such? Getting a little suspicious as to if this a giant clever hoax or not. If it is, whoever did it is real good...



posted on Apr, 17 2007 @ 10:00 PM
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Dang you Brits get all the fun over there. Wish we had some weird conspiracy stuff in Wisconsin. But regardless. If this has anything to do with 9/11 like torsion suggested, one can take into account what skjalddis said about the rune meaning tuesday. I happen to know that 9/11 took place on a tuesday. It seems like this could be some sort of relation to it? Either that or it's a big practical joke.



posted on Apr, 18 2007 @ 01:44 AM
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Still on the 9/11 theme, could this not be a representation of the Twin Towers with smoke plume?




posted on Apr, 18 2007 @ 02:51 AM
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Originally posted by torsion
Still on the 9/11 theme, could this not be a representation of the Twin Towers with smoke plume?


[sarcasm] Eeeeeeek! Ive just realised that the cigarette I just happen to be smoking right-now to accompany my wake-up coffee uncannily represents a tall slender tower that's smoking...now i'm convinced the tobacco comapnies were in on 9/11 too!!!! [/sarcasm]




posted on Apr, 18 2007 @ 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by teleonaut
...Thus the truly important question here, as with most things, is the causal one and not the mechanical one. Put differently, "why was it sent?" is a more important question than "what does it say?"


Exactly! look at the symbolism of the message as a clue to motive rather than meaning



posted on Apr, 18 2007 @ 03:14 AM
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Originally posted by citizen smith
[sarcasm] Eeeeeeek! Ive just realised that the cigarette I just happen to be smoking right-now to accompany my wake-up coffee uncannily represents a tall slender tower that's smoking...now i'm convinced the tobacco comapnies were in on 9/11 too!!!! [/sarcasm]



Posts like this add nothing to advancement of the thread discussion.



posted on Apr, 18 2007 @ 04:12 AM
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Maybe someone can contact 'KATIEB_23' who was the OP of the thread on the sheffield forum to see if she can provide any further information, as it seems she's been able to contact other recipients of these letters. I've tried to register on the site to post a reply, but cant seem to be able to.


Originally posted by greatlakes
Posts like this add nothing to advancement of the thread discussion.

Perhaps you'd like to pitch in and make a contribution yourself rather than nit-pick?





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