Very WEIRD letter! Anyone know what this is about?

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posted on Apr, 22 2007 @ 08:36 PM
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I am certainly no expert but the symbol seems very similar to some symbols used in the Kabbalah. There is also a whole system of numerology tied to the Kabbalah. And interestingly enough I found some rabbis (online) with the last name of Akivoh (Hovika backwards). Maybe someone in this forum knows somebody who might be able to provide some input from this perspective. Anyway, very interesting subject.
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posted on Apr, 22 2007 @ 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by FudgeStix
But why, if this was a plan for a terrorist plot of shorts, would several members of ATS receive this in the post?


Who are those ATS members who recieved this letter? why haven't they been flown 'CIA first-class' to an undisclosed location? I await information gained via water-boarding techniques for a solution to this most intriguing riddle

BTW..if 'several members' of ATS have recieved this letter in the post, then unless they step forward and identify themselves to provide first-hand information, we should call 'SERPO!' on the damn thing

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posted on Apr, 22 2007 @ 10:21 PM
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It seems that this is likely a religiously-oriented letter from someone seeking some sort of blessing. I have seen this in classified ads - "Thanks to St. Whatever for kindnesses received, say Novenas... and so on". This letter seems similar, to me.

The various equations appear to imply connections between numbers and dates. I don't know where the author gets the number 8914. That would be interesting to find out, probably a key to this puzzle. One might make something of the idea that it's a scrambled version of 1984, but I wouldn't consider it significant.

The calculation yields 1914, which is the year in which World War I began.

"Hovika" is, indeed, "Akivoh" backwards, and there was a rabbi by the name Akiba, often spelled Akiva - and that could be transliterated as Akivoh. He wasn't much of a Kabbalist, though. I suspect this is not a connection.

As for the other numbers, they don't appear significant in terms of Kabbalah - at least, not in Jewish Kabbalah. Some forms of Christian Kabbalah may make more use of the number 7, though.

I was wondering about the reference to Ezekiel - that is a puzzling verse anyway. Basically, God is telling Ezekiel that for the next year (390 days, to be exact), he has to lie on one side, and to eat bread mixed with dung.

And you thought the Ten Commandments were bad...



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 02:09 AM
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I've tried over and over to post a reply but I seem to be unable to so I'll just say. Conspiracy theory anyone? ;-}

See possible explanation: www.sheffieldforum.co.uk...
Cheers



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 02:57 AM
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www.adl.org...

Browsing a bunch of hate symbols at a site linked in another thread by someone on ATS, I found that.. Reminded me of the symbol here..



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by chiron613
The various equations appear to imply connections between numbers and dates. I don't know where the author gets the number 8914. That would be interesting to find out, probably a key to this puzzle. One might make something of the idea that it's a scrambled version of 1984, but I wouldn't consider it significant.


You should really read the whole thread.

It says "HIN" - correlate the letters to the numbers (a=1, b=2, etc.)

H = 8
I = 9
N = 14

Thus 8914... It has been said like 4 times now..

IMO the buzz has died down for some reason,... come on people!



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 01:21 PM
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I haven't read all of the posts, so forgive me if I post duplicate information. Has anyone explored the possibility that the code 01484359418 is a Gematria code?

Also, anyone ever hear of Coral Castle? There is a code that says the secret of the universe is 71296105195.

Both have 11 digits.

01484359418
71296105195

Any significance with 11 digits?



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 02:22 PM
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Has anyone explored the possibility that the code 01484359418...


The 01484359418 number is a real number found in the same city this letter has been received, it couldn't possibly coincide with some Gemantria code of any sort...

Perhaps worth a try anyway, tried playing with the Gemantria Finder found here: www.n-soft.org... .. nothing.. I didn't get the hebrew writings anyway..



posted on Apr, 23 2007 @ 10:03 PM
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First Comment..

Hovika (Place)

The landing conditions at the site are difficult. Remains of the old landing at *** Hovika*** and its surroundings are also part of the
property and will be preserved.
ARTICLE: www.fyr.no...

In Norway. (Possibly Old Nordic Religion?)

Then it says ***"Hin" *** which is German for "to" (movement) also (outside)

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2nd. comment.


Based on my (Nation of Islam) theological perspective, first off I am observing that these dates may be derived from the Asiatic

calendar that the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad was taught about by Master Fard Muhammad. Master Fard Muhammad taught

His Messenger, the Honorable Elijah Muhammad that the (Gregorian calendar) year "1914" was the end of Satan's 6,000 year reign

onthe Planet Earth. The Gregorian calendar year "1914" fell on the Asiatic calendar year "15,000".

[The Asiatic calendar is based on the approximate circumference of the Earth: 25,000 miles. Fard taught Elijah that the holy wise

scientists (angels), Who number 24 in asembly (see Revlation), write history 25,000 years in advance, compiling it into a Great

Mother Book, revealing certain portions of it at specific times within that 25,000-year vacuum. This calendar is also insinct with the

Zodiac calendar of the Planet Earth that runs through twelve (12) 2,100-year cycles, with our planet completing a 30-degree shift at

its poles every 2,100 years. 33 & 1/3 degree Mason Richard W. Noone wrote of this in his book May 5, 2000: Ice-The Ultimate

Disaster.]

Master Fard Muhammad taught the Honorable Elijah Muhammad that "1914" marked the END of the Devil's civilization.

Accordingly, Allah (God) and His Angels, using the forces of nature (i.e. tornadoes, rain, hail, snow, earthquakes, etc.) could have

wiped North America (the Mystery Babylon of our Bible) out completely at this TIME. However, a period of grace (ranging from 60

to 70 years) would be granted for certain reasons. Minister Farrakhan felt that this period of grace did not commence until in between

1930 to 1934, after Fard had commenced to raise up His Messenger, ELIJAH MUHAMMAD. This lead us up to the end of 2004.

The figure in the drawing seems to be some kind of a Cross with the "JEHOVAH" name of GOD written in some coded form: HOV

IKA. Now, since the Cross appears to have "broken" arms, when you fold them back up into place the four (4) letters "O V I K" are

covered up, leaving the two letters "H" and "A" visible. AND, the wooden Cross then appears as the English letter "Y". If you put

those three English letters in some type of discernable form you can get the words: "HAY" OR "YAH". Both terms, "Hay," and

"Yah," are from the Hebrew language. "Hay" is the fifth (5th) Hebraic letter. "Yah" is part part of the Hebraic term for THE LORD:

"Yahweh." "By thirty-two mysterious paths of wisdom, Yah, the Lord of Armies, God alive...has engraved and created His world

with Sepharim...ten Sephiroth Belimah and twenty-letters of foundation..." (p. 46 of Carlos Suares' book, The Cipher of Genesis:

The Original Code of the Qabala as Applied to the Scriptures, (c) 1967, 1992. Also, "Ezekiel 4:11" seems to be written above the

years "8914" and "7000".

Ezekiel 4:11 reads: "THE LORD has given full vent to His Wrath; He has poured out His fierce anger. He kindled a fire in Zion that

consumed her foundations."

In summation, based on my limited knowledge, whoever wrote this appears to being trying to convey some forthcoming Act of

GOD's Wrath after THE LORD's Grace, perhaps.



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 06:30 AM
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i've read through half of this entire thread (got impatient so skipped to the end to see if it's been solved yet, and was disappointed to find it hadn't!), and i must say, it's all a mystery to me.
i agree it looks kabbalistic, and possibly relating to the bible codes, but seeing as it was faxed seemingly at random it sounds to me like a big hoax. AFAIK there aren't any religious nutter sects in sheffield, so i guess we can rule out cults etc.
it definitely looks like it was made to be folded, but lots of us have tried that with poor results. has anyone tried actually cutting along the lines, and rearranging?

i think we're probably all in danger of over-analyzing this paper - hopefully there's someone on ATS who specializes in bible code and can point us all in the right direction.



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 08:29 AM
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Has anyone thought this may be a way to get people to read the bible. By putting Ezekial 4:11 as central location, the puzzle solver refers to the bible, unconciously gaining curiosity in the passage, and subsequently the bible.
Just a thought.



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by torsion
Still on the 9/11 theme, could this not be a representation of the Twin Towers with smoke plume?




I like this.

Notice how the numbers at the scene of the impact become a scrambled "767". And the center building has a 7 to the left, right and bottom of it - that was building number 7.



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by RavensRock


Ezekiel 4:11 reads: "THE LORD has given full vent to His Wrath; He has poured out His fierce anger. He kindled a fire in Zion that

consumed her foundations."



check again:


Ezekiel 4:11
11 Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink.



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 02:15 PM
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I'm gonna post something really stupid now, but after reading this thread: Apr23-27 4 days of "simulated" nuke attacks on US and EU, I'm reminded of the early 1980's BBC drama 'Threads', which set up the scenario of a nuclear blast in Sheffield.




www.amazon.co.uk...


I just made the cognitive connection, mind running over time and all, but this being a conspiracy website, I thought I'd make the link. Consider the letter a cryptic warning?





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The nuclear mushroom-cloud is symbolic of id-release.

Source: www.sheffieldforum.co.uk...






posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 05:16 PM
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maybe its a warning.

if i were you id leave, immediately.
coincidences only go so far, then it becomes fact, or fear. or idk what. but i know that that would freak me out, especially if its just that random?



IKA is 9-11-01 in the numbering system mentioned.

HOV is 8-15-22, which doesn't really correspond to anything in history.

thats a strange coincidence, its like how people come out after the fact and say 'there were warning signs to 9/11'. i remember reading somewhere how someone recieved something in the mail saying dont go to work this week or something like that. for all i know it could be fake, ill try to dig it up again. the point is maybe its a warning. or it could be some kid fooling around because that movie zodiac came out. in the other fourms it said that the letter was recieved on like the same day, right?

idk, it seems to be going in circles and someone had their refrences mixed up.



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by VelvetSplash
I'm gonna post something really stupid now, but after reading this thread: Apr23-27 4 days of "simulated" nuke attacks on US and EU, I'm reminded of the early 1980's BBC drama 'Threads', which set up the scenario of a nuclear blast in Sheffield.



How strange, I was thinking threads when people mentioned about possible terrorist plots etc - but I thought it was a bit too over the top. Plus as far as I'm aware, the steel trade isn't as important to sheffield as it was back in the 80's, which was one of the main reasons it was bombed in the film. It's a very good film either way - they even mention my old sheffield home town in it when all the places are being blown up



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 08:59 PM
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OK, firstly, this is chock-a-block full of several schools of esoteric symbolism, and they all correlate, as far as I understand(limited). which implies that whoever designed this key or sigil/talisman knew what they were doing. MY first point of call would be "liber 777" by crowley, simply because of the obvious. The rune algiz, is not really depicted. Inherent is the rune TYR(representing the Nordic SKY god of the same name, Tyr, also invoked if wanting to win a fight or even an argument/dispute sometimes), numerical value 17, closely related to crowley`s personal sigil in both form and symbolic meaning, which is also present, as the "T" shape at the top.The prominent letters on this translate to numerical values in gematria, HOV=81(9X9), and IKA =31. [Mathers]
The sum of these is 112, which by gematria would indicate 111, which is symbolic of basic union between the polarities and the first step in unifying something. Also symbolic of the Holy Trinity.
the magic square has already been highlighted. I can help no more atm, but will make further endeavours. I know the runes very well, but onlt have a small depth of knowledge in relative symbolism in the rest of the fields, although I do understand numbers and their meanings. at least in a way that enables me to relate them to archetypal energies anyway. Both the TYR rune and Crowley`s Sigil are unabashedly "male" symbols, although this in no way precludes these energies being accessed by females. ok, will stop rambling now...

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posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 09:08 PM
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One could speculate that any tall thin building also symbolickly(sic) represents male energy too, being exactly the type of energy that the TYR rune and Crowley`s sigil represent, come to think of it...



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 09:27 PM
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Totally, I am convinced that this symbol is a bind of both Crowley`s sigil and the TYR rune. if you add 112 to 17(numerical value of TYR in Nordic runes), you get 128(+/- 1), a number which we should all recognise. This then has inherent symbolic meaning, but personally I wouldn`t even attempt to link it to any specific event without more knowledge/insight. Symbols are useful precisely because they point to types of energies, not events per se, and used in conjunction, point to confluences of energies.

Wish I could explain what I know just a little better but am tired. Later folks.
Be Well



posted on Apr, 24 2007 @ 10:07 PM
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Originally posted by queenannie38

Originally posted by RavensRock


Ezekiel 4:11 reads: "THE LORD has given full vent to His Wrath; He has poured out His fierce anger. He kindled a fire in Zion that

consumed her foundations."



check again: (Ok...I did)


Ezekiel 4:11
11 Thou shalt drink also water by measure, the sixth part of an hin: from time to time shalt thou drink.

YOUR CORRECT...
I had this person send his version of what he thought the code was..and your correct it isn't Ezekiel 4:11

Its Lamentations 4:11
that he posted...

(back to the drawing board)





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