posted on Apr, 14 2007 @ 02:05 PM
That is exactly the problem with these groups and in an ideal, uncorrupted world the benefit. It would be great if the good and the great all got
together to work out how to make the world a better place. This may have been the groups original purpose, it may be what they actually do, but
because it shrouds itself in secrecy we don't know and can only speculate. If they haven't got anything to hide, then why hide etc.
The name Bohemia is significant. Many of the high ranking members of the Grove are descended from the the Holy Roman Empire states in and around
bohemia, this is why the Third Reich were so keen to annex it.
John of Nepomuk, former Bishop of is the Czech national saint. He was made a saint because he, in one version of the story, respected the confession
of the Queen of Bohemia and did not divulge its content even under torture.
The other interpretation would be that as Elizabeth of Bohemia was the sister of the king of England James I, that she or John were protestant or
catholic spies and that was why he was murdered, the church just covering it by martyrdom. Protestantism was new at this time but was quickly
replacing the Catholics as the ear of government, it was also helping to create a new class of nobility. There is strong evidence of a very
sophisticated espionage network from England throughout europe at this time. There are a number of versions of the story, this is just my
This is why I believe that Bohemian Grovers would have him as their saint as he represents Secrecy.
The protestant reformation usurped the Catholic churches power in europe and stripped them of their wealth and property. Effectively the King and not
the Church became the conduit to god. The King then was more figure-head and needed the nobles to rule. The church had been responsible for taxes
and administration of districts. A new nobility was created to fill the void.
Its worth looking at the history surrounding the Hapsburg dynasty to understand the mentalities that created the government of the US. Many
protestant nobles sought out ownership in the 'new worlds' when they were prevented from doing so in their home countries. Many very prominent
families in the US can trace their ancestry from this period of history and the emergence of free-enterprise.
I can provide some sources if you want them, but I can assure you that Bohemia is culturally significant to the people that attend the grove. As is
mystic gnostism, it is very much ingrained in the areas encompassed by the Holy roman Empire as a source of renewed vigour in the Catholic Church
following the reformation.
[edit on 14-4-2007 by KilgoreTrout]