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Topic started on 12-4-2007 @ 08:19 AM by JacKatMtn
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Deadly Bee Mite may have Reached Manoa Honey Farm
the.honoluluadvertiser.com
 A bee mite that could pose a serious threat to Hawai'i's honey bee industry and has been a worldwide problem for years may have been
discovered at a bee farm in Manoa last week, the state Department of Agriculture said in a news release yesterday.
The news release said varroa mites might have been discovered after abandoned hives from Makiki Heights were relocated to the property last week.
Varroa mites were detected on bees in three of the abandoned hives on April 6 by the beekeeper and reported to the HDOA.
(visit the link for the full news article)
Related AboveTopSecret.com Discussion Threads:
Honey Bees Disappearance in US Mystery UPDATE
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reply posted on 12-4-2007 @ 08:19 AM by JacKatMtn
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Could this be one of the reasons for the bee kill going on, the article says that this mite is native to Asia but has spread worldwide.
the.honoluluadvertiser.com
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reply posted on 12-4-2007 @ 09:05 AM by JacKatMtn
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In this central California article the bee crisis is becoming critical, it says that the industry was already battling this mite and said that it has
caused catastrophic losses, but this new decline in bees could be attributed to pesticides and also mentions the genetically modified crops being
discussed in the thread linked in the OP.
The article ends with this quote:
"The need for additional bee research is obvious," says Mr. Brandi. "There are just too many unanswered questions that need to be addressed if
the bee industry is to survive and perhaps thrive again."
Mysterious bee losses continue; threaten crops
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reply posted on 12-4-2007 @ 03:49 PM by JacKatMtn
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This article confirms the mite's prescence in the Hawaiin Islands:
Appearance Of Bee Mite Poses Threat To Hawaii Industry
HONOLULU -- Hawaii was the last place on Earth to be free of a pest that attacks honeybees, but now that pest has arrived and scientists worry its
presence will have a global impact on Hawaii's bee and honey industry.
The varroa mite has been discovered on honeybees in Makiki and Manoa on April 6.
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reply posted on 12-4-2007 @ 08:07 PM by JacKatMtn
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Speaking of the pesticide angle, this article a Pennsylvania beekeeper blames new pesticides which were advertised to be environmentally benign.
Is New Pesticide Less Than Bee-nign?
Hackenberg, who has supplied beehives to Jasper Wyman & Son and other Maine wild blueberry growers since the 1960s, suspects neo-nicotinoids may have
triggered “colony collapse disorder” and the mass abandonment of hundreds of thousands of bee colonies around the country this winter.
The insecticides, increasingly used to treat agricultural crops ranging from corn to wheat, are favored because they isolate specific pests.
I am going to try and find the specific pesticide they are discussing and will post back here when I find something.
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reply posted on 12-4-2007 @ 08:23 PM by JacKatMtn
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Whoa!! It seems that this pesticide, was responsible for a big bee killing in France in the 90's, here is a report from UCDavis entemology from
2004. See wiki link for the 90's France bee kill.
Neonicotinoids and Bees page 2 of pdf
Chemists working for pesticide manufacturing companies try to stay at least one step ahead of targeted pests on what some have called, derogatorily,
the “pesticide treadmill.”
New products developed for pest control must be novel enough to avoid established biochemistries of resistance in crop pests. New products must
also be safe for use in the environment. A new class of insecticides, called “neonicotinoids,” appeared to many to fit the bill.
WIKI
Guess I got have to find what company has been promoting and selling this pesticide..
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reply posted on 12-4-2007 @ 08:34 PM by JacKatMtn
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This article from the Ontario Ministry of Agriculture from 2003 touches on the subject of increased mite population in relation to the use of
neonicotinoid pesticides, it doesn't specifically mention the varroa mite but I wonder if this mite might be affected in the same way.
Neonicotinoids (Assail, Admire): Mites and Resistance
Assail 70 WP (acetamiprid) has been registered for use on various crops since 2002. On grapes, it can be used for management of leafhoppers; on pome
fruit (apples, crabapples and pears) it is registered for use against aphids, tentiform leafminer, leafhoppers, codling moth, and pear psylla. Assail
is in the same chemical family as Admire (imidacloprid): the neonicotinoids (sometimes referred to as chloronicotinoids).
Mites
There is evidence in some studies in the U.S. and in British Columbia of increased numbers of mites with the use of neonicotinoid pesticides. Although
I have not completed an exhaustive literature review yet, I would be happy to provide a review of what I have gathered or the references themselves to
anyone interested. I think it is important to point out that negative results are sometimes not reported (or not noticed). Researchers at Agriculture
and Agri-Food Canada in Vineland have not yet documented increased mite egg production or predatory mite decreases in small plot field trials of
Assail.
Probably the most sensible reaction to the mite issue is to recognize that there is some need for concern but that should go along with the caution
that there are many possible reasons for mite outbreaks, so one should be careful in assigning blame for mite problems to any one cause. In all cases,
keep a close eye on mite numbers through regular monitoring as a normal part of vineyard and orchard management.
Here is a little piece from AgPro in 2003:
The Neonicotinoids
A revolutionary group of insecticides hit the U. S. market during the early nineties. This group is known as the neonicotinoids and presently includes
brand names such as Admire, Provado, Platinum, Actara, and Assail manufactured by, Bayer, Syngenta and Cerexagri. These insecticides are labeled on
many crops, including fruits, vegetables, turf and ornamentals and some row crops. A wide range of pests is controlled including some of the most crop
limiting that we have. This list includes the silverleaf whitefly, Colorado potato beetle, many species of aphids and, many thrips, weevils, psyllids,
leafhoppers, etc. The products are environmentally friendly and are in EPA's Reduced Risk category.
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reply posted on 12-4-2007 @ 08:49 PM by JacKatMtn
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I am starting to wonder if this is the cause, almost all of the sites I check concerning this pesticide says it must be used in specific quantities
and rotated out so as not to lose it's effectiveness, I found this piece from the UK and they were concerned with what increased use of this
pesticide would do to the resistance of the target species, but did they ignore the effects on the bees? It seems that this has been a "Grand, In
the Field" experiment that has gone wrong. Help me if I am not comprehending this correctly, but it appears this is the most likely cause.
Stewardship of neonicotinoids: A project to support proactive IRM for a
key group of
aphicides
Given these concerns and the adaptable nature of this pest, the Department for Environment,
Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA) in the UK is funding a Sustainable Arable LINK
programme project entitled Stewardship of neonicotinoid insecticides: The potential of
natural populations of Myzus persicae to evolve resistance. The industrial partners are the
British Potato Council, the British Beet Research Organisation, Bayer CropScience and
Syngenta. The project is coordinated by Rothamsted Research, with major field inputs from
ADAS and regulatory aspects are addressed by DEFRA Pesticide Safety Directorate.
The project started in April 2004 and is now in its third year, running until March 2007. The
key aim is to investigate the risks of resistance to neonicotinoids developing in this species
before it reaches damaging levels and to proactively provide inputs to ensure effective
resistance management. The study has four main objectives: (1) A detailed characterisation
of M. persicae clones already showing some variation in response to neonicotinoids, (2)
Structured monitoring of field populations, (3) A study of operational factors influencing the
expression and selection of resistance and (4) The development and dissemination of
resistance management recommendations. Laboratory resistant clones show a consistent
pattern of cross-resistance across all the neonicotinoids tested.
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reply posted on 12-4-2007 @ 09:02 PM by JacKatMtn
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This is a scientific study from Oxford in 2006 and it is on the pesticide and bee, I hope someone here is willing to read this and interpret it for
me, it did have some mention of human physiology in relation to this pesticide so I am very interested, ATS Scholars ASSEMBLE!!! as Umbrax would
say.
I would hate to think that this was some kind of money making coverup with disasterous potential....although it mentioned that this pesticide is a
BILLION dollar business.
The nicotinic acetylcholine receptor gene family of the honey bee, Apis
mellifera
Nicotinic acetylcholine receptors (nAChRs) mediate fast cholinergic synaptic transmission and play roles in many cognitive processes. They are under
intense research as potential targets of drugs used to treat neurodegenerative diseases and neurological disorders such as Alzheimer's disease and
schizophrenia. Invertebrate nAChRs are targets of anthelmintics as well as a major group of insecticides, the neonicotinoids. The honey bee, Apis
mellifera, is one of the most beneficial insects worldwide, playing an important role in crop pollination, and is also a valuable model system for
studies on social interaction, sensory processing, learning, and memory.
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reply posted on 12-4-2007 @ 09:16 PM by JacKatMtn
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Here is an interesting interview from Living on Earth from March of this year concerning the recent colony collapse at a Florida hive. This quote
from the representative of the USDA has me puzzled
HAYES: Well that's the problem the bees are leaving the colonies. They're not coming back. They're actually disappearing as if the adult
workers, the foragers, are going out and not remembering how to get home. So there aren't any dead bodies as you would see in a pesticide kill or
something.
bold:mine
That's funny, just a little reading on the pesticide I have been researching says that the insects memory can be affected if the level of pesticide
is too high. Am I wrong?
Bees On Their Knees
CURWOOD: It's Living on Earth. I'm Steve Curwood. Something mysterious is killing the nation's honeybees and it's alarming scientists and
beekeepers, who first noticed the strange die-off last year. Now the bizarre syndrome, which researchers have dubbed "Colony Collapse Disorder" has
spread to nearly half the states and is responsible for killing as many as 90 percent of the hives in some places.
And there have been similar reports from Europe as well. The rapid die-offs here put more than a third of U.S. food crops in peril because without
honeybees, many fruits, vegetables, and nut trees wouldn't get pollinated. Jerry Hayes is Chief of the Apiary Section at Florida's Department of
Agriculture. We gave him a buzz on his cell phone in a research field outside of Gainesville.
Hi there Jerry—
HAYES: How are you doing Steve?
CURWOOD: Hey uh I think I can hear some bees. Are you wearing your protective hood and uniform now?
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reply posted on 12-4-2007 @ 09:33 PM by JacKatMtn
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Alright, this will be my last post on this subject for the evening, this research stuff is tiring... and parching, these links are to 2 more pdf's
concerning the bees.
this one from Oregon goes into the causes of bee poisoning and was produced in Dec 2006
How to Reduce Bee Poisoning from Pesticides
This one is from the government and is the report to Congress on the recent colony declines and is from Mar 2007
Recent Honey Bee Colony Declines
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reply posted on 12-4-2007 @ 11:18 PM by antar
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Why are they not mentioning terrorism? Bio terror. It starts with the GMO's and pestisides, and then the hybridized seed causes mutations. Now this
mite is the same one that killed all of the bee's in europe a couple of years ago? WE could do a global consciousness meditation and visualize the
bee's remaining healthy reguardless of the outside influences. Without them we die.
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reply posted on 13-4-2007 @ 07:11 AM by JacKatMtn
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After reading up on this problem, I am leaning towards a two- fisted knockout punch that the bees are dealing with.
First the pesticides which to put it simply, does a number on the bees mental functions and the added threat of the blood sucking mite which appears
to be unaffected by the pesticide.
I am not sure but I will let you decide, I found some articles today on the bee crisis, this first one is from the UK:
Keepers fear mystery bee illness
Some keepers, especially around London, say they have lost far more than the 10 per cent of colonies that usually die off during winter.
John Chapple, chairman of the London Beekeepers Association, lost all the bees in 30 out of the 40 hives he keeps in Acton, west London.
Mr Chapple said that a nearby club in Harrow had lost half of its hives and that the Pinner and Ruislip Beekeepers Association had lost 75 per
cent.
These are disturbing numbers though in the same article a government spokesman tries to downplay the concern:
"We are aware of the serious situation in the USA. Cases of colony loss in England and Wales reported to the National Bee Unit are being
investigated. However, it is not unusual for some colonies to be found dead or absent at the end of winter."  Some?
This article is from close to my home in Virginia with the same troubling news:
Honeybees where are they? Bee-gone: Mystery has experts buzzing
While most reported cases of CCD have been from large, commercial beekeepers, some hobbyists also have experienced problems.
Duxbury says that hives from which the bees have disappeared have not been invaded by insect pests, which is unusual.
"When there's nobody home, no guard at the door, other insects will come in," Duxbury said. "Wax moths love to go into beehives, but they won't
even go in."
According to Kim Fraser, president of the Rappahannock Area Beekeepers Association, losses in the area might not necessarily be from CCD, but they are
larger than in past years. Fraser, who has never lost hives, lost four this year.
What is in the hives that prevent other insects from taking over once the hive is abandoned? Could it be poisoned?
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reply posted on 13-4-2007 @ 08:12 AM by clearwater
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What a super informative thread, thanks for taking the time to research all those articles JackKatMtn. It does appear like we are all going to die.
But is that really new? And why do I find it funny. NO, I am not hysterical.
I suppose a smaller band of survivors, might be able to feed themselves in an environment hostile to the ecological cycles that support mammalian life
forms.
It's not over till the fat lady sings.
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reply posted on 13-4-2007 @ 01:52 PM by JacKatMtn
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Originally posted by clearwater
What a super informative thread, thanks for taking the time to research all those articles JackKatMtn. It does appear like we are all going to die.

Thanks! I don't know about us all perishing, but it does appear to be something that may be caused by man, and that would be a tragic mistake with
serious consequences, I hope that they don't cover this up to protect the MONEY and sacrifice the bees existence and blame it on some other
cause.
At this moment it appears to be some kind of a coverup....
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reply posted on 13-4-2007 @ 02:02 PM by SpeakerofTruth
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Great thread. Too bad that more people don't think this is an important issue. I suspect when the food supply starts depleting they'll change there
mind about the disappearance of our little fuzzy friends.
Anyway, I know that in the past when they have had problems with bee diappearances it has been attributable to mites. However, I don't think it was
ever on the scale that it currently is. Some bee farmers are reporting a decrease in the bee population by 80-90 percent!! That's pretty scary.
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reply posted on 14-4-2007 @ 07:06 AM by JacKatMtn
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Two more articles discussing honeybees today, one from Canada shows that there is a request for relief to Canadian beekeepers, the unusually long
winter is blamed for some of the losses while certain areas are still in snow covered situations and hives in these areas have yet to be checked. It
will be a few more weeks until total hive losses will be able to be documented in Canada.
Ontario beekeepers to seek financial
aid
Beekeepers in Ontario are gearing up to ask the provincial government for financial aid after unusually high losses of honeybees over the winter that
they figure have already cost them more than $5-million.
Brent Halsall, president of the Ontario Beekeepers' Association, said yesterday he plans to send a letter "shortly" to Agriculture Minister Leona
Dombrowsky seeking funds to help pay for replacement bees and research to identify the cause or causes of the unusually high winter mortality
rate.
This story is from France and they are dealing with honeybee losses from an invading Asian hornet thought to have been introduced to France in some
clay pots from China.
French Beekeepers Brace for Asian Sting
The hornets are thought to have reached France in 2004 after stowing away on a cargo boat, said Claire Villemant, a lecturer at Paris' Natural
History Museum....
...Since then, the hornets have been establishing themselves in their adopted country, concentrating mostly on building imposing nests.
It took until last summer for their numbers to start threatening honey production, said Henri Clement, president of the National Union for French
Beekeeping. He said it was too early to give figures on the hornets' economic impact, but he is bracing for a tough summer.
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reply posted on 14-4-2007 @ 01:59 PM by SpeakerofTruth
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You know,I am starting to think that it may be related to the changing climates as well. Last weekend there was snow here in Waco and it stuck to the
ground. Now, I have noticed all week that I have been seeing a lot of dead catepillars and other insects on the sidewalks here. This wouldn't be so
unusual except it doesn't look like anyone stepped on them, it looks like they just died. I wonder if the changing weather patterns might be playing
havoc with bees and other insects.
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reply posted on 14-4-2007 @ 05:40 PM by frayed1
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I saw a commercial just this morning that lauded the praises of a pesticide that 'protected' trees from insects......All you needed to do was pour
it around the base of the tree, and the tree absorbed it......making ALL parts of the tree, even those you can't reach........poisonous to the
insects.......
I believe that is what has happened to the bees.....the poisons ( and apparently the inventors of the poisons) can't tell the difference
between army worms and honey bees!
That stuff should be taken off the market.........what were the idiots thinking??
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reply posted on 14-4-2007 @ 08:02 PM by DYepes
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You got a WATS from me Jak, that is some excellent research. I wonder how the FDA has even approved this pesticide to be used if it has alreayd been
shown to impact the bees negativley in France? Thats rather odd.
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