Look to the skies tonight. Regroup tomorrow!

Originally posted by win 52

I think you've literally been looking at venus my friend. Right now, on the west coast, Venus transits the western sky, and sets beyond the western horizon at around, hmmm, i'd say 9 - 10pm pacific standard time.

Are you sure about the times....?

Lets get a bit more accurate if possible.

Times and location in the western sky, of when we could expect to see Venus. What time will it no longer be visible, etc.

Venus does not streak out into space in a flash, lighting up that part of the night sky like a flash bulb going off.

Your last statement there is very VERY interesting to me. While we were watching our 'bright star' there was a massive bright blue flash. Now that I think of it, our camcorder did pick up another object near the moon. My wife wanted to watch this thing to see how it left but after a few hours it was too tiring for her. It did start at 2 am so who could blame her.

But the bright blue flash is something VERY interesting because she saw it. I was screwing with the camcorder trying to get it off of the tripod at the time. Dang it, I had just turned it off too.

Originally posted by Flyer

Originally posted by Dulcimer
In my entire life I have only seen a handful of things that were "strange". I have never seen anything that truly amazed me.

Why do so many people see stuff?

They see what they want to see. 90% of people in this thread are probably seeing Venus and you and me would know that but they think its a sign of god or an alien presence or something.

Would you rather know what youve seen on those rare occasions is truly strange or believe every mundane thing in the sky is alien or proof of something or other?

Believe me, when I saw this thing at first I tried to tell my wife all sorts of things it could be. It moved too slowly for a satellite. It was too late for it to be Venus (2 am to at least 4 am PST in the Seattle area over Mt. Rainier on April 6th). I didn't quite know what it was. However, when I did get it on video and zoomed in (although the focus screwed it up) there was a distinct saucer shape. Plus there was an orb that would come out of it and move around. At one point there were multiple orbs. Very tiny though due to distance. Unless Venus has some moons I didn't know about that are visible to the naked eye or we have EXTREMELY SLOW MOVING aircraft I don't think I was 'seeing what I wanted to'. I wanted it to be easily explained because I had to get up for work in 3 hours! LOL

Also, a very INTERESTING point that turned up the next morning that literally set my wife's heart racing kind of confirmed things in my heart. That will be explained in better detail when I finally can get the video onto my PC at a decent size. (A little less than 6 gigs!)

I am looking out my window and there is a bright star, I think everyone is saying this star is Venus?

I went out and got some pictures and some movies from the digital camera. Tomorrow I will have my grandson look and see what he can do for me, I don't know how to do all the neat stuff.



[edit on 13-4-2007 by observe50]

Originally posted by bprintz1
So FLYER, how about you accepting that these people really are seeing something.... not Venus. This is hard for you, isn't it.

no, I can accept that but what I cannot accept is that that would be proof that the reptilians are here as some of the lower IQ members of this board would believe.

Yours is a sane report, 90% of those posted here simply are not.

Originally posted by observe50
Flyer I am looking out my window and there is a bright star, from your direction look southwest can you see it. I think everyone is saying this star is Venus?

I went out and got some pictures and some movies from the digital camera. Tomorrow I will have my grandson look and see what he can do for me, I don't know how to do all the neat stuff.

Originally posted by dariousg
Believe me, when I saw this thing at first I tried to tell my wife all sorts of things it could be. It moved too slowly for a satellite. It was too late for it to be Venus (2 am to at least 4 am PST in the Seattle area over Mt. Rainier on April 6th). I didn't quite know what it was. However, when I did get it on video and zoomed in (although the focus screwed it up) there was a distinct saucer shape.

Cool, two reports that Im extremely glad to see, no wild leaps of (non) logic but reporting of facts.

you both see to feel I just want to debunk everything but I just want to get rid of the kooky crap so we can get to the reports.

Unfortunately both your reports will probably get lost in the sea of disinfo.

Originally posted by Flyer

Originally posted by observe50
Flyer I am looking out my window and there is a bright star, from your direction look southwest can you see it. I think everyone is saying this star is Venus?

I went out and got some pictures and some movies from the digital camera. Tomorrow I will have my grandson look and see what he can do for me, I don't know how to do all the neat stuff.

Originally posted by dariousg
Believe me, when I saw this thing at first I tried to tell my wife all sorts of things it could be. It moved too slowly for a satellite. It was too late for it to be Venus (2 am to at least 4 am PST in the Seattle area over Mt. Rainier on April 6th). I didn't quite know what it was. However, when I did get it on video and zoomed in (although the focus screwed it up) there was a distinct saucer shape.

Cool, two reports that Im extremely glad to see, no wild leaps of (non) logic but reporting of facts.

you both see to feel I just want to debunk everything but I just want to get rid of the kooky crap so we can get to the reports.

Unfortunately both your reports will probably get lost in the sea of disinfo.

I don't feel that you just want to debunk. I'm sorry if my posts come across that way. It's an unfortunate side effect of this medium.

I always welcome well thought out debunking because I truly believe that more than 90% of the time these objects are something natural or ordinary.

As for Venus, I have seen it for the past week (well, not the last two days) off to the western horizon. I was wondering why there was such a bright star in the western skies but now you have answered it for me. It has always been between 8 and 9 pm.

Anyway, once I can get a good size for the video I'll gladly post it. Right now it will be without sound. Heck, I might even post the first 20 seconds of this thing with only a few of the later views that show it as clearly a bright white star when no other stars show up on the video.

That's what I'll do. Hopefully that will be a more reasonable size.

No hard feelings I hope. I think that it is always best to be skeptical first until you eliminate all of the reasonable options.

Just was browsing the net for a free planetarium program and found this:

Online:
www.fourmilab.ch...

Stand-Alone:
www.winstars.net...

A List:
astro.nineplanets.org...

might be helpful for the one or the other.
(so you can find out if you look at a planet a star or something unknown.

Originally posted by dariousg
No hard feelings I hope. I think that it is always best to be skeptical first until you eliminate all of the reasonable options.

No worries, thats exactly how I feel but too many people think something amazing without even considering the mundane.

See the Alien evidence on google thread.

I was outside again tonight coming home from work.. again, Danville, Virginia, USA

I was going down Highway 58 WEST and it appeared to be towards the North for me. Has this got anything to do with the "Western Skies"?

Bright, white, stationary spot in the sky.

Okay, I posted a cut down version of what I recorded of this object on my thread: Bright Star - Object in sky West Coast - UFO?

I haven't started many threads so I don't know how to add teh link. I have to head out to take the kids to a movie now so I'm a bit rushed. Maybe I can figure it out but you should be able to find it.

That's the one, chances are. 90% of the time it's in the West/SWest/NWest, but I've seen it (or one like it) in each of the four corners of the sky at some point or another. In Fall 2005 it would "rise" from the southern sky and drift westward on a clear evening.

Last night I saw three of them (just prior to a lovely, winter-like entry of cloud cover...but this is April!) the main one which everyone sees, as well as one in the eastern sky, and a curiously-bright, slightly-pulsating star almost due north of my position. I'm thinking, "We are clearly surrounded, so their purpose is either peaceful or future."

I used to be a bible-thumper til I grew up, but in that tenure I learned a lot about bible prophecy. I still study the Christ (I mean, the person is just bursting at the seams with pure love and acceptance of everybody, except frauds) but more of a Gnostic approach without the thumpin. One of the events of "the last days" to watch out for, according to the Christ in the NT: "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars" (Matthew 21:11,25). By no means am I preaching; nevertheless, I'm forever wishing someone could explain to me how some author knew all that thousands of years ago, and other things which are our daily headlines (especially if you read Drudge!)

Originally posted by OptionToChoose
One of the events of "the last days" to watch out for, according to the Christ in the NT: "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars" (Matthew 21:11,25). By no means am I preaching; nevertheless, I'm forever wishing someone could explain to me how some author knew all that thousands of years ago, and other things which are our daily headlines (especially if you read Drudge!)

It's called cold-reading or a semi-educated guess.

If I asked you to think for a few hours about the end of the world and describe it to me, you might tell me that there would be fire from the sky, the seas would engulf all, the land would split, etc...

It's no great leap to also imagine that there might strange lights in the sky foreshadowing the impending doom. If we get smashed by an asteroid, we're likely to see it approaching us for a while, right?

In ancient times, the writers of the bible had no friggin' idea how to interpret science, or the nature of the Earth in the solar system. So it's no wonder that they would have dreamed up some early warning systems about mystical changes in the Sun, Moon and stars - when they looked up, that's all they knew!

Nothing mystical or divine in the bible at all. Just guesses made by some semi-imaginative men who had the ability to write down their thoughts.

I wish people took more photos.

Here is what a UFO does not look like.

Taken facing west at 9:08 PM tonight.

Not a UFO.

Still not a UFO.

This is the same thing taken at 10:55 pm.

It has moved to the lower right of the first image and out of frame.





Spooky.

...did you see my close-up of this not-ufo? At first glance it seems like an eye (which is why I titled it tongue-in-cheek style), but it is actually a maxed-out zoom of the brightness in question. The little spots around the "pupil" may very well be smaller craft, if the pupil is indeed a mothership.

Of course, that light in the night sky could be anything until one of us can figure out how to get up there and check on it . .

files.abovetopsecret.com...

This is contrast-enhanced, but the colors are source.

Venus - Is in Taurus, magnitude of -4.0. Is a brilliant object high in the western sky at sunset, and does not set until after midnight local time in the UK.On the 11th Venus is very close to the famous Pleiades (Seven Sisters) Star cluster, M45, it is fairly close a few days before and after. On the evening of the 19th, it will be 6° to the upper left of the thin crescent Moon. Also on the 19th, Venus reaches perihelion - its closest to the Sun. On the following evening Venus will be 5° below and slightly right of the Moon.

Source

This confirms the position of Venus and i do believe that it is most likely what we are all seeing. However the reporting of Orbs around it and it moving around are very odd. I myself, havent seen any movement but i haven't observed it closeup or for any long period of time.

The two red lights that i saw though, certainly weren't a planet so im not ruling anything out!

Just go drive up to Wisconsin and go out driving for about a month.

Then tell me what you believe, you'll see 50 in that time most likely.

Me and my friends at work tonight, were looking at "venus" and what was I was wondering was why in the time we were outside smoking a cigarette (about 5 mins) it went from point A which was a building across the stree to the southwest all the way to point B above a building to the north. As it did this it got noticably brighter, and if it was the earth's rotation and orbit, how fast does it go? I'm ignorant on the subject.

The only thing that had me and everyone I've showed it vexed is how fast it moves in the sky for a "star/planet".

i just porsted something about this very same Bright star in this thread:
Bright Star
but ill copy and paste what i wrote:

"Ive been visiting ATS for a few monthes now but i had not registered untill now so that i could respond to this one. Ive been seeing a bright start in the west too that i assumed was venus and im sure it has been. however last night (4/13/07) i walked into my sunroom, looked out the window and venus was shining even brighter than it normally does. i didnt really think anything of it, but i was looking at it for a few minutes and there was absolutly no movement at all, so i figgured there must be some natural reason it was brighter. so i went back to doing whatever i was doing. about an hour later i left my house to meet up with some friends and i was walking to my car i looked to see the bright star again and it wasnt there. at first i thought i might be looking at different angle or something but i looked all around the sky and there was no star in the sky that was nearly as bright as that was. so i began thinking, well it was probably a plane. i live relativly close to an airport (i have A-10s flying over a few times a week even) so i know how a planes landing lights can be misleading and seem like they are just hanging in the air when they are flying in your direction. But with a plane normally it will grow in sizes over several minutes and this light remained a constant size. Also the color of the light wasnt one you really see on planes. this looked exactly like a star, it was bright white but a hint of blue. Now this was PROBABLY Venus but it kinda made me scratch my head. i figgure that it dissapeared because the earth is spinning and all that and it probably just moved out of view but it covered ALOT of sky in just an hour. it wasnt really that close to the horizon to dissapear so fast"



now related to this thread i havent had any thoughts or anything about something big coming, i just like to catch a view of the starts every once and a while like i know alot of people do. is there anyone who knows alot about Venus who might have some insight? I live in Baltimore, Maryland by the way. if i see it again ill take a picture. i thought about it last night when i saw it but i felt silly taking a picture of what i thought was just a star

Your last statement there is very VERY interesting to me. While we were watching our 'bright star' there was a massive bright blue flash. Now that I think of it, our camcorder did pick up another object near the moon. My wife wanted to watch this thing to see how it left but after a few hours it was too tiring for her. It did start at 2 am so who could blame her.

But the bright blue flash is something VERY interesting because she saw it. I was screwing with the camcorder trying to get it off of the tripod at the time. Dang it, I had just turned it off too.

That was from one that my Dad, Brother, and I saw in 1969, from a bright light in the sky, much like the one we all are seeing now.

It is not just one, there are many, positioned all over the World. You don't see them looking East, because that side is not reflecting sun light.

Without their intervention, we would already be in Nuclear Summer.

We are their Children, Brothers, and Sisters, and they are here to help us because we are stuck in a rut. There is no need to be affraid.