Forest on Mars !?!?

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posted on Jul, 7 2007 @ 07:05 PM
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“Defrosting pitted south polar terrain of Cavi Angusti“
msss

-one strange looking image...I rotated it all over..but..









posted on Jul, 7 2007 @ 08:09 PM
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Or this one - look like it is painted








...and cave entrances:



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posted on Jul, 7 2007 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon



If a tree falls in the forest - does it make sound. Of, course it does - coz sound is vibration that propagate through air.


Noppers it creates a sound wave... but you need a receiver to get a sound
No laws of Physics being broken here...

By the same token the Universe need Mind to be self aware... otherwise the Universe has no purpose


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Zorgon lol you are in Wheeler anthropic principle camp


I said “propagate“ - meaning waves propagate/ travel through medium..no receiver needed for sound to do its business (( only notion of “sound“ as a concept would not exist without humans...- and that is something completely different )) - and observer is not conditio for universe to exist - universe existence is independent of subjective observation - reversal of cause and effect would mean that universe just pop into existence for us



posted on Jul, 7 2007 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by blue bird




That is a very interesting picture. Kids are kicking me off the other computer (was using it to build a webpage for work...this laptop has limited software) so i cannot look at the "big picture". But, in context, the above picture could be more than just interesting.

Does it not look like a dam?

BTW, regarding the tree falling...we are unable to test that thought experiment....so it is all conjecture.



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 08:56 AM
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What do you think? Do you see a reflection - like on the watery surface!?




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* “lakes“ connection !?:




* zooming // “dune“ formation







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Tex - it is not the thought exp. - we know that the universe is not made few minutes ago... If tree falls in a forest and only a deaf man is to wittiness - does it still make a sound?.............and I don't think we are the simulation on Turing machine


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posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 09:25 AM
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Artificial structure!? // same strip //







posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Anyway about those cities on Mars...
can we get a HiRISE look at that area?
Maybe if we ask nicely...

At this moment there are no HiRISE images of that area.


Originally posted by blue bird
...and cave entrances:


msss
Those things do not look like holes/cave entrances on the original IMG image, which has less contrast.


One of the problems with those strips is that they are very long, so they usually have to loose some detail to give a general look of that area, that is why I prefer to download the IMG file and adjust the levels for the area I want to see in detail.

[edit on 8/7/2007 by ArMaP]



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by blue bird

* zooming // “dune“ formation





[edit on 8-7-2007 by blue bird]


Bluebird, those "dunes"...doesn't it seem to not be shaped and positioned in a way that we are more accustomed to seeing on Earth?

What else could they be besides dunes?



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by ArMaP
Those things do not look like holes/cave entrances on the original IMG image, which has less contrast.


One of the problems with those strips is that they are very long, so they usually have to loose some detail to give a general look of that area, that is why I prefer to download the IMG file and adjust the levels for the area I want to see in detail.

[edit on 8/7/2007 by ArMaP]



Oh, yes they do ArMaP - they look exactly like cave entrances - even with no contrast as on your image - it is visible. And of course you need contrast to see clearly.

* your image:


* just one click on “enhance“



-it is not like a creating a holes out of nothing - they are there



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by blue bird
Oh, yes they do ArMaP - they look exactly like cave entrances - even with no contrast as on your image - it is visible.
Well, maybe the cave entrances I know (only two) are different from the ones you know...



And of course you need contrast to see clearly.
Not necessarily. That is why I prefer the use of the "Levels" option in Photoshop, because it lets me change the visibility of the image but keeping all the data at the same time.



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Bluebird, those "dunes"...doesn't it seem to not be shaped and positioned in a way that we are more accustomed to seeing on Earth?

What else could they be besides dunes?



Some fascinating “dunes“ - that totally show structures that does not look natural!
I know that NASA call this type of dune - “dune trains“, coz they are in a row, but...and that ribs , should be crests of dune train... but it seems to me, that this are more than elevated dust piles.

Some kind of transportation station!?

Ribs are hung on the wall - “connections“








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posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 03:19 PM
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I have spent some time this week-end trying to create false colour images using the images from HiRISE.

Although they have published only some 4 or 5 colour images, all the photos are taken using also the Green+Blue filter and the Infrared filter in the central part of the image, along with the common Red filter that is used for all the image.

Using the Infrared as R, the Red as G and the Green+Blue as B, I have reached a result that I find similar enough to the colour images they have published, so I tried it on other images and here are the results so far, some better than others.

The images are very long, so the ImageShack thumbnails do not work. For that reason I post a small detail of the image followed by a link to the complete image. It is possible to get even bigger images, but it takes me about a hour to download all the parts, convert them to GIF, join the parts that make up each of the three images (IR, R and BG) and joining the images together.

These are false colour images.


- full image from PSP_001756_1995


- full image from PSP_002868_0985


- full image from PSP_003087_0930


- full image from PSP_003092_0985


- full image from PSP_003734_0950



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 04:27 PM
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Great job ArMaP!


As I understand HiRISE has 2 wavelength in near infra-red color, which is amazing for us to see something otherwise not detectable by human eyes.


I am particularly interested in infra-red - because the water could be ( and all types of geological stuff) determinate!


I am waiting for a true color of Martian chlorophyll





posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by blue bird

Zorgon lol you are in Wheeler anthropic principle camp


No I am in my own camp... That's one of the priviledges that come with the crown
but I haven't come to conclusions yet, nor published any works...

Here is one of those transit tubes on the moon... in Copernicus Crater just for comparison













posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 07:32 PM
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Think of the material used to construct the "glass" tubes and the under ground bases (Burried by time and sand no doubt) the connect throughout Mas's surface. What we would find could change everything we know and use to this day. Or it could be withheld and never reach the public's knowledge.



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by Cydonian Priest
Think of the material used to construct the "glass" tubes


Actually LPI has a paper on using the sand on the Moon and Mars to create glass with solar furnaces and the byproduct of this glass making {fiberglass for structures) is iron oxide and titanium oxide... with free oxygen for breathing and fuel

Imagine that oxygen as a byproduct...



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 07:44 PM
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Do you have the papers where I can get them?


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posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 07:52 PM
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Yup I do sort of LOL I am reorganizing the website so people can find that stuff easily. The docs come from cd's I order from LPI and it takes a long time to sort through them because not all the titles tell you whats inside. And LPI lists them only by a document # like 6004.pdf and there are hundreds of them


So in a week or so I will have a pretty good menu to snoop through and it will include all the source links I have collected so far... so bear with me



posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexandoesn't it seem to not be shaped and positioned in a way that we are more accustomed to seeing on Earth?


Like these?




posted on Jul, 8 2007 @ 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by ArMaPWell, maybe the cave entrances I know (only two) are different from the ones you know...


Quite possibly. I know these ones in Tibet... from the right angle they would look a lot like the Martian ones...






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