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Forest on Mars !?!?


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reply posted on 3-5-2007 @ 11:53 AM by boroclub4


hopefully they are trees which would imply that there is some type of liquid in mars or the trees would not get the nutrients to grow.if it is water it would mean there could be life forms on mars but if it is some other type of super water which would explain y the trees look so big then lifeforms may be bigger as this type of super water would give more nutrients



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reply posted on 3-5-2007 @ 12:13 PM by bigfatfurrytexan


Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by blue bird
Thing that fascinate me is the temperature of Phobos - on sunny side is 25F ( -4C), pretty nice temperature!?


Now THAT is interesting... maybe it IS a spaceship afterall and heated from within

Its funny you post that "boulder" on Phobos... I just found one two... on Eros an asteroid...




Close up



Info page and source

landoflegends.us...


That looks identical to the "tower" that you had in the moon thread. It is the same structure. Look at it: rectangular on top profile, rounded back, two separate buildings (one for entry, one for storage?)...it is the same thing.

That is very interesting, indeed.



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reply posted on 3-5-2007 @ 02:43 PM by blue bird


The SAME 'TOWER' is visible on Iapetus





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reply posted on 3-5-2007 @ 10:09 PM by Matyas


I have been watching these "towers" popping up, the Moon, Phobos, Eros, Iapetus, and I will wager a good handful of Moondust there are more, even one on almost each lunar body in the solar system.

At first I thought they were further evidence of mining operations on the asteroids, but now I think we are looking at some kind of relay system. I don't know what the use could be, power, navigation, communications, but they sure look to be a relay network system.

There's a thought to ponder.



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reply posted on 3-5-2007 @ 10:52 PM by bigfatfurrytexan


Originally posted by Matyas
I have been watching these "towers" popping up, the Moon, Phobos, Eros, Iapetus, and I will wager a good handful of Moondust there are more, even one on almost each lunar body in the solar system.

At first I thought they were further evidence of mining operations on the asteroids, but now I think we are looking at some kind of relay system. I don't know what the use could be, power, navigation, communications, but they sure look to be a relay network system.

There's a thought to ponder.


What would the relay system do? Wouldn't it seem that there would be a way to traverse the distance of space for communications that is beyond a relay.

What could the relay system be used for? Regarding the tower on Iapetus...it doesn't match the ones seen on other moons from that angle. The ones on the other moons seem to look somewhat like this in profile:




It also appears that the others have an entry way of some sort, in front of the large, hump backed building. The antechamber, if you will, seems to be about the height to put it within the range of the golden mean in ratio to the rest of the building with the humped back, right? I mean, that is purely conjecture...but it seems to be about right, doesn't it (based on the shadow, that is, which makes the conjecture just that more shakey).



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reply posted on 3-5-2007 @ 11:01 PM by zorgon


Originally posted by Matyas
There's a thought to ponder.


Yes indeed let us ponder on this....

Now while the few of us are gathered here all on the same page so to speak... I am going to change the direction of my research a little... actually just concentrate more on the tech than the anomalies.

At pegasus yahoo group, {only a few members at this time} we talk about many actual research topics. I want to see that built up to a true meeting place of minds)

In that effort to kick it off I am going to take a few minutes in this thread as there are but a few of us here at the moment to share some humbling information with you all... then we can go on with the work...

At the end of this set I am going to come back to the "RELAY TOWERS" that Matt just mentioned, also bearing in mind the "The Shard" and the original tower that John talks about on the moon and believes to be a "soul catcher"

But first a little tour...

The MOST IMPORTANT photo ever taken by mankind...


YouTube Link


Some of you may have noticed that I have used this image as background for the Pegasus site since it began...

Portal to the Universe - Hubble Tour Sit back relax and be humble!

TOUR OF THE UNIVERSE

Okay now ANYONE out there that can honestly think that in all this vast collecion of Galaxies we are the only ones has just got to be the craziest person on the planet..

Now then back to the "Relay Transmission Towers"

I want you all to go to this address. Undo originally posted this some time ago but it is of major relevance at this point..

When you go to the link, listen to the intro if you like but right now I would prefer you go straight to the place I want to point out

I cannot link directly so when you click on the link below click on Earth, the Cosmic Debris....

Then after that go to Jupiter, click on Ganemede Listen to the WHOLE 4 minutes.... remember we are talking about relay towers on the Moons in the solar system, then come back and give me your opinions....

MUSIC OF THE SPHERES

This is the Intro page

SPACE SOUNDS

Are you humble yet



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reply posted on 3-5-2007 @ 11:03 PM by undo


I made an animation of this piece, after seeing some odd things in the fore and background of it. If you have animations turned off, turn them back on for a second. Where did you say you got this from?





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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 12:30 AM by bigfatfurrytexan


I am sorry Zorgon. i do not hear anything in there that is of specific interest right now.

I do value the opinion of yourself and Matyas. Could you direct me?

I am unsure about the idea of relay stations if we are discussing communications, et al. There just seems that there would be a quantum solution or something to address the need for relays. Unless we are talking about something left over from previous Earth humanity or something else within the solar system. I could see the relays being for "home grown" use in current "black budget" science, i suppose. Is this the angle you refer to?

The ganamede thing is interesting. Gonna go look into it a little more...the magnetosphere part, that is.

Undo, that looks like a giant tractor with two uptake tubes feeding a large hopper on the back. That is what that looks like to me.



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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 12:45 AM by zorgon


Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexanUnless we are talking about something left over from previous Earth humanity or something else within the solar system. I could see the relays being for "home grown" use in current "black budget" science, i suppose. Is this the angle you refer to?


Me personally yes but mostly to ancient civilizations... humanity I suppose... would we call it human if there was an ancient race that populated local planets that looked like us? I do not believe we build those ones.

I agree they would be useless other than local, provided of course that they are not using some other tech..

But this is just something new I am finding so no conclusions yet

The sound I was specifically pointing to is how the Ganymede magnetosphere changes at the end to sound like a satellite transmission...

For direct we can use pegasus@yahoo Its a closed list



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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 12:47 AM by zorgon


Originally posted by undo
Where did you say you got this from?

The NEAR lander the link is below the image

Also here...

landoflegends.us...



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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 06:12 AM by blue bird


Zorgon oh thank you...I listen Ofenbach and look at this images...my heart was so full...humble -yes---but prud to be part of..the same elements are in us and

* I made myself slide of galaxies..and have also sounds...but it is always great to hear them...oh boy was Pytagora so right with music of sphere ( coz he was the first...i sometimes think that this great ancient Greeks come from some far far away galaxy, just to teach us something....who knows where would we be now, if we continued that way..)


* you can add to these galaxys one more - the spectacular Cartweel Galaxy:






* we just a little bit come oof topic...but it is worth it


* Fragmented Galaxy:






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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 06:27 AM by blue bird


It is very intriguing - that we can see “towers“ on many different Space bodies...puzzling..

Zorgon - can you tell something about “soul catcher“?




source



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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 07:02 AM by blue bird


This sure does not look natural at all!














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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 07:41 AM by blue bird





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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 09:00 AM by blue bird


Originally posted by zorgon

But what about that artifact?





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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 10:00 AM by Stale Cracker


Originally posted by zorgon


What is more than interesting is 'red' sky - but that was not the case back in '76 as we can see from Viking images - original data no corection!!!




Only problem with that is that the Viking Rover shown in your image is blue as well... but it is really WHITE...




Viking Rover eh! NOW THAT's RICH!!!


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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 10:17 AM by undo


And another frame added to the animation. It looks as if there's a series of towers going up from that original, each one is spouting some kind of liquid unto the surface.



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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 12:32 PM by blue bird


Breathtaking large image of Victoria Crater - must see

Take look at 'dune' lol

* but first small image:








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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 02:37 PM by bigfatfurrytexan


Originally posted by undo

And another frame added to the animation. It looks as if there's a series of towers going up from that original, each one is spouting some kind of liquid unto the surface.



Is there an artist or something that can recreate this image based off of the profile in the object/its shadow? something less pixelated, and many versions if needed just to get an idea of hte range of possibilities for thwat it might be? I don't know if anything like that exists...but i cannot hardly draw flies after not bathing, let alone draw a creative rendition.

The victoria crater pic...i posted that in another thread, i think...maybe this one. It is interesting to me because it shows that it is either not a crater, or victim of subsequent extreme weathering. This would put it in the range of precataclysm Mars, right? That doesn't add up, and maybe i misunderstand the current model for Mars' past.



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reply posted on 4-5-2007 @ 02:55 PM by blue bird


Mars is specially mysterious when it come to 'craters' - there are so many 'minicraters'...so many of them are unbelievably flat and perfectly rounded...some looks like 'polygons'...some are especially surrounded by veil of secret - like 'Crater with Dome'!?







"Glass Tunnel" anomalies and "Crater Dome" anomalies is more than mere coincidences.source



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