Originally posted by kleverone
Either way those pics are pretty amazing. I'm open to just about anything and willing to believe whatever seems the most true to me, and so far I'm not convinced that mars is what NASA portrays it as or at least our progress in getting there.
LOL I know you don't believe what John says but we are already there...
Ever hear of the "Aquila"?
In a letter I received from ummmm "sources"... I will post a few snippits..
Quote from letter...
Hubert P. Davis, Starcraft Boosters, Inc.
1032 Military Drive
Canyon Lake, TX 78133
(830) 935-XXXX
email: hudavis@XXX.com
Subject:
SPACE TRANSPORTATION FOR A LUNAR RESOURCES BASE (LRB)
This is a report of a work in progress. So far as the author is presently aware, this topic has not been previously addressed. Proprietary work by NASA or others may, however, exist that address similar topics...
This work placed a total 129 tons initial base for both the in-crater and crater rim installations, aswell as a 90 tons “marshalling yard” at the Earth-Moon L-1 libration point. For launch services, the results of an in-house Shuttle-Derived Heavy Lift Launch Vehicle study were used. It is called
Aquila. This vehicle can deliver over 50 tons to low Earth orbit from the Kennedy Space Center, using a combination of Space Shuttle and Delta IV-Heavy components...
A second stage of the Delta IV-Heavy vehicle was used to deliver 15 tons payloads from Earth orbit to docking at L-1. By so doing, no “new start” systems are needed beyond those of the L-1 station and the LRB itself, provided the Aquila and Crew Exploration Vehicle have been previously developed. At L-1, three of these once-used stages are fitted with landing gear and other elements needed to produce a highly capable Lunar Vehicle and it is refueled from propellants delivered from Earth to place the base and to provide a single visit of a six person crew to aid the robotic operations necessary to produce a fully functional base...
A Mars mission departing from L-1 with mass of 686 tons can be placed on the trans-Mars trajectory expending lunar-origin propellants and just one of the Lunar Vehicles, requiring an additional 13 Aquila launches. This will permit dual Mars spacecraft to be used for each mission with a 28% mass margin over a single, similar mass vehicle departing from low Earth orbit...
End Snippits
There is more and there are many more letters and phone calls and reports that I have collected. People always scream for evidence...
Yet rarely pay attention when you give it, like the Stargate papers I posted from the LANL and the AFRL... The mere fact that these two agencies are TALKING about stargates and how they work should be more than enough to wake people up... well I posted that info three times in two thread and once in the lunar thread... result? NOT ONE PERSON even read them
Then I see threads like the latest "bash John" thread and I have to wonder just what the agenda really is... and why we even bother trying to reveal stuff to people...
Fortunately I do it for my own knowledge and the "few good men(and women) that are truly interested..
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