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reply posted on 29-4-2007 @ 08:04 PM by blue bird
Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by blue bird
* speaking of “salty“ - here are some very, very salty “blueberries“:



Ummm where did you get that the blueberries are very very salty?



not NaCl ( from your kitchen)-------------> Sulfate salt!

The hematite in the Martian blueberries is solid evidence that they are, in fact, concretions. This alone would make a strong case for water, but then comes the clincher, the long-awaited spectrometer data from the RAT hole on El Capitan. The instruments say that the rock is as much as 40 percent sulfate salts

If you tasted this thing, you'd taste the salt. It's a very, very salt-rich rock. It looks like what geologists call an evaporite deposit. Evaporites form when you have liquid water, with lots of stuff dissolved in it, and the water evaporates away and it leaves stuff behind, so...salt flats. Go to the Great Salt Lake, go to any place where you've evaporated away seawater, and you will find these salt beds.

There's an awful lot of sulfate salt in this rock, and that's very, very hard to explain away other than water having been massively involved in creating this stuff.

One last piece of evidence would be familiar to anyone who's ever walked on the beach at low tide: ripples created by the flow of water over loose sand. Over long periods of time, rippled sediments can build up and harden into stone. The water is gone, but the ripples are still there in the layered rock at Meridiani.

Where the water came from is still unknown, but one possibility is that it came from below as groundwater, laced with sulfuric acid, percolating up through the volcanic bedrock, leaching out elements like iron, creating a broth of dissolved salts.

At times the water would flood the surface, forming shallow lakes or seas that would last for a while and then evaporate, leaving a crust of the dissolved sulfate salts behind. This may have happened repeatedly, building up a thick deposit of salty rocks over time.

The hematite blueberries would have grown within these rocks while they were saturated with water. Now the water is gone and the rock is eroding away, leaving the harder berries behind.
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reply posted on 29-4-2007 @ 08:10 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by blue bird
size of Opportunity on Mars surface:





Those tracks look familiar... I have seen something like it before I think..




Or was it this one?



Now I wonder who belongs to those rovers


reply posted on 29-4-2007 @ 08:57 PM by bigfatfurrytexan
Originally posted by zorgon

Or was it this one?



Now I wonder who belongs to those rovers


Where did you get that? What made those tracks? Notice how uneven they are? Less like a rolling wheel, more like a walking automaton or robot.


reply posted on 29-4-2007 @ 11:02 PM by darkbluesky
Originally posted by zorgon

I want to know why if Mars is dry and dusty the rover leaves tracks like this


That stay for a very long time, as evidenced by later shots from space...

I have spent a lot of time in the Nevada desert and car track, footprints etc do NOT leave tread marks in the loose dusty sand and even the depressions left vanish at the first slight breeze... so please explain to me why those rover tracks are so sharp and clear

Thanks



[edit on 29-4-2007 by zorgon]


because the particulates are extremely angular and the unconsolidated sediments have a much higher angle of repose than the weathered and rounded sediments of earth..also lower gravity.

www.asi.org...


reply posted on 29-4-2007 @ 11:16 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Wind is not the only force,


Ah I see you are a proponent of the 'Electric Universe"


I see dust devils like these all the time here in West Texas, but they don't scorch the soil.


Same here in Nevada... but "scorching" the soil may not be whats happening. It may simply be "sweeping" the light surface dust and exposing the dark "wetter" dust below. I would like to see these areas where the lines are rephotographed months later. I say "wetter" because of the Rover tracks leaving clear sharp muddy looking tracks that also remain a long time. I am sure you have walked in desert sands and understand what I mean...


Maybe you have better? I would really like to see them if you do.


Hmmm maybe

I like this one... its the one that cleaned Spirit....



Here is a before and after image of Spirit...



This one is climbing a crater wall...



How about a little motion picture?





You can see more and larger versions of these movies here;
marsrover.nasa.gov...

And if you pick raw images from the directory at the left you will have access to ALL 200,000 images... happy hunting... it is very tedious LOL


Am I the only one that thinks Europa and Mars are fraternal twins?
Even right down to the "scars" caused by the electric discharge scorching the soil:


Not soil... ice Europa is a giant ball of water with a frozen surface and those are cracks in the ice from tectonic stress


Here is another interesting photo that I haven't seen on here yet:


That is because we are in the water and life thread LOL... that image is in the Martian tube and dome category...

landoflegends.us...
landoflegends.us...

And the Geodesic Dome

landoflegends.us...

Matyas who is with Pegasus is a supporter of the electric universe theory. I also look into it, but not all thinks are explained electrically in my opinion
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