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reply posted on 28-4-2007 @ 01:32 PM by zorgon
Originally posted by blue bird
Couldn't agree more!

I found this on some forum - question about why are we not sending
this camera setup to Mars ???

- t a k e n at 400 m i l e s above earth !!!


Ah yes the Ikonos Satellite owned by Space imaging "GeoEye"

They have a great poster and zoomable image of AREA 51 - GROOM LAKE

I have posted this satellite before showing the Tsangpo River Gorge in full capability of this satellite... here it is again for those who missed it...(images of this quality cost thousands of dollars)



Here is the BIG PICTURE

Now this company has one image of the oon and I wrote them asking if they had more images. They do not image the moon, and their website states simply. "We will not be taking photos of the moon.." Short sweet and to the point.. but it leaves me asking "Why?" Their answer was that the satellite was designed for Earth imaging...

Yes we could easily put such a camera on a Lunar or Mars orbiter... and Department of Defense descriptions (as well as manufactures) state that they do indeed have such cameras out there...

Its just you and me won't get to see those images any time soon...



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reply posted on 28-4-2007 @ 03:36 PM by spacedoubt
Originally posted by blue bird
On these thread there are some images of some kind of jets, possibly CO2 - we can see high and rather narrow lines.


But - look carefully at this image - jets!? ...don't think so:






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No, in this instance I don't think we are looking at jets.
Perhaps something of lower energy. Seepage perhaps. Which would explain the alluvial looking pattern.

Or perhaps a martian version of "pingos"..Which occur on Earth in permafrost environments.
Here is a "pingo"




reply posted on 28-4-2007 @ 04:51 PM by blue bird
Not bad idea!

I found this bird eye view of Arctic pingo - one collapsed and one not....but we can see, that , if under white cover - everything is white including pingo - here on Mars images we clearly see dark branching on white soil!?







And - with 'pingos' there must be must add a liquid water in picture coz :
The pingo's ice core usually originates from segregation or injection of fluid water, and can be massive.


Pingos are generally classified as hydrostatic (closed-system) or hydraulic (open-system). Hydrostatic-system pingos result from hydrostatic pressure on water from permafrost, and commonly form in drained lakes or river channels.

wiki





reply posted on 28-4-2007 @ 06:55 PM by blue bird



reply posted on 29-4-2007 @ 12:13 AM by bigfatfurrytexan
It seems to me that there are mineral deposit possibilities that could explain most of the banyan tree formations...but they are highly unlikely.

When ants burrow their nests/mounds they eventually get evacuated and left. They eventually fill up with sediment and mineral, and we can see the lightning bolt shapes.

It is understandable that under the ice (which could likely have extended into these regions) there were microflora that survived, or there was an effusion of this mineral laden black sand into microfissures in the lower levels of the ice (where salinity is high, along with pressure, making it much weaker and prone to slushing and cracking). These effusions could easily be exposed once the geology of hte local region changed, creating these banyan looking formations.

However, i believe they are some sort of life. Plant/animal? Who the hell knows. Mars is iron rich (and, thus i believe its "destruction" was caused by the electromagnetic traits of this outer shell of oxidized iron). I think these "trees" appear to have life in the form we see on earth. Does it have to metabolise chemical the same way? Heck no! Why would it? We have microbes here that metabolize methane, silica, hydrocarbons. Life is opportunistic and will make due with whatever materials it needs to thrive.

I would caution people to really, really think outside the box when looking for life on other bodies (and in general). People get buried in boxes...its isn't a good place to be.

Now, on a second thought....i wonder if the "iron rich" outer surface of mars might not be normal? What would happen to our planet should all our buildings be left to decay? Would it not eventually create large areas where the completely decayed and decimated iron structures would have broken down and spread across? have you seen the tornados on mars? The dust storms? It is easy to think that the surface has been scoured time and again, removing any surface features of civilization. When i lived in El Paso, i saw sandstorms that stripped the paint off of vehicles in 10 minutes. Think about it.

Mars is a crippled planet. I hvae a theory that it is repairing itself from the last calamity. It will rise again. maybe not to what it once was...but it will rise again.


reply posted on 29-4-2007 @ 12:51 AM by bigfatfurrytexan
Wind is not the only force, especially when you are tlaking about a thinner atmosphere.

Notice how the dust devil leaves behind the black marks. Tornado was a bad descriptive given our current points of reference. But dust devil seems equally as poor.

thunderbolts.info...



I see dust devils like these all the time here in West Texas, but they don't scorch the soil. I would be that, to kick up the soil like that in a thinner atmosphere, you would have to create quite the vortex, which you suggest wouldn't happen due to the "dusting of the rover" issue. Or, you have to "lighten the load" by creating magnetic fields that move the iron rich soil into higher vertical positions. It is the electric version of an updraft.

Here is a pretty good pic of a dust devil on Mars:




Maybe you have better? I would really like to see them if you do.

A Martian Butte:




A river bed:




Am I the only one that thinks Europa and Mars are fraternal twins?




Even right down to the "scars" caused by the electric discharge scorching the soil:




Here is another interesting photo that I haven't seen on here yet:







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