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Topic started on 6-4-2007 @ 01:45 PM by intrepid
If you were to ask anyone over 40 who was the girl of the 20th century, you'ld most likely get Marilyn Munroe as a response. Marilyn was a size 14:






In comes the 60's and a model named Twiggy came along:




Check out "model" in the dictionary:

noun: a woman who wears clothes to display fashions

But look at another definition:

noun: someone worthy of imitation

And for the next 40 years this was the look that was pushed on society, up to size 2-4 Heather Locklear. We won't both with a pic of Heather, she's so skinny it would be like trying to find Waldo. Women try to meet this unreasonable expectation. I can't recall anorexia or bulemia before the 70's. Karen Cartpenter being this first I can recall.

Lately there seems to be a trend towards models that you couldn't play chopsticks on their ribs. Queen Latifa is the current Cover Girl Rep. The Queen is a beautiful woman but she isn't a size 2-4. This is a good trend imo. The question is, is this the industry listening to society? Or is it just a "trend"?


reply posted on 6-4-2007 @ 10:11 PM by GradyPhilpott
Funny. I don't know a damn thing about dress sizes.

Black women have not had the same kinds of body image problems that many white women have had in recent years and, by my observation, there are many black men who like their women large, so I'm not sure that Queen Latifah is the best barometer of what the overall trend is regarding feminine pulchritude.

However, there have been backlashes against the fashion industry's obsession with walking skeletons.

A case in point:

www.abcnews.go.com

[edit on 2007/4/6 by GradyPhilpott]


reply posted on 7-4-2007 @ 01:52 AM by flice
Originally posted by djohnsto77
It's always been in a constant state of flux. If you look at history, thin and voluptuous have traded places often as the most desirable look.


That a very precise description and I like it
If you take other subjects or ways of life, you have the youth uprising in the 60/70s and now the new generation is one who doesn't offer any uprising what so ever.

Changes must occur for progress to take place, it's only natural.
So we've had a long stretch of beauty being defined as superthin and I'm willing to support the idea that something new could happen. I'm not saying this or next year, but in the coming times.

I work in the commercial industry on the production end, and I was actually amused to see the other day an underwear model, in a catalogue I do work for, being... well, lack of better words makes me use the word "healthy" she had a round shape to her without her being fat and such.
Now I like the skinny girl as much as the next guy, but seeing that photo made me feel happy.

I just took a pause to think about what my definition of beauty is at the moment, and very precisely I can say it is:

a body that is working 100% at all times, at everything the person does with it.

Not so skinny that the person has no energy to performe anything and not too fat so the person looses his/her breath from one flight of stairs.
I'd like to think that it's pretty universal since it's a basic question of balance.

So to answer the main question, I do think society's view on beauty is changing, but ofcourse I take this stance primarily from the change in myself...

[edit on 7/4/07 by flice]
uh oh... I missed this part:

Originally posted by annestacey
The bottom line is this: If people maintain a healthy diet, they will be healthy people and they will maintain a healthy weight. Letting "them" control what you wear, what you eat, and how you should look is the worst thing anyone can do.


Beautifully said Anne... I've had a natural force to eat a variety of foods and care very much if it's ecological or not. Did you know that the common supermarket orange juice does NOT hold any natural vitamin c? Most of it actually gets destroyed in the heat process during production, and what they next fill in the juice is artificial vitamin C.

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