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reply posted on 18-4-2007 @ 11:36 AM by Justin Oldham
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Xpert11 and I are now prepping our final statements. Our debate will be completed in 24 hours. You cannot drop an infrared mouse. I Have just
learned this. Not only is my mouse K.I.A., but my last post is formatted very strangely. Ha.
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reply posted on 18-4-2007 @ 03:17 PM by chissler
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
Hey.. Chissler.. Whats holding up the results from my debate??
Something I like to call, "Real Life". As I've said in my u2u's, the results will be announced as soon as they come in. With that said, expect
them today.
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reply posted on 18-4-2007 @ 07:29 PM by clearwater
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I'd like to get in on the debates - 2l82sk8, I'll take you up on a debate over abortion - I'll take the side you don't want for the sake of
debate. U2Uing you.
You too, watchtherocks...
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reply posted on 19-4-2007 @ 12:49 AM by Justin Oldham
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And...we are done.  I have a new infrared mouse, too.  Please feel free to read our debate and send us comments. Xpert11 had his work cut
out for him, and he stayed in the fight 'til the end.
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reply posted on 19-4-2007 @ 01:48 AM by TheBorg
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The problems with the idea of a master list that the mods choose from, and assign sides to are numerous. One of them is that neither side will be
doing the things they want, which brings me to the next problem. The debates aren't going to be the best that they could be, because the people
debating them aren't educated on them. We need people that know what they're talking about to do this, because without them, this idea will fall
flat on it's face.
The next major problem with that is that if people don't feel passionate about what they're debating, then they won't debate it at all. They'll
just leave, viewership of this forum would dive, and then we'd be stuck with a forum with no use whatsoever, aside from a huge bandwidth vacuum.
These are but a few of the problems with this. I'm sure there's more. Let's just stick to debating what we know about, please...
TheBorg
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reply posted on 19-4-2007 @ 02:16 AM by Damocles
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well, i have concluded my part of the debate adn i cant wait to see WUK's post. im sure its going to be stellar.
however i think this will end my involvment, or at least mark my hiatus (lol yeah...right) in the 911 threads. unless theres something new to
discuss, i think i laid out my opinions clearly.
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reply posted on 19-4-2007 @ 08:09 AM by 2l82sk8
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Originally posted by TheBorg
The debates aren't going to be the best that they could be, because the people debating them aren't educated on them. We need people that know what
they're talking about to do this, because without them, this idea will fall flat on it's face.
Perhaps you speak from some experience so I wont entirely disagree, but I know personally, if I was assigned a debate on a subject I was neither
educated or opinionated about, I would research it until I was enough of either, to sufficiently argue the point.
Originally posted by TheBorg
The next major problem with that is that if people don't feel passionate about what they're debating, then they won't debate it at all. They'll
just leave, viewership of this forum would dive, and then we'd be stuck with a forum with no use whatsoever, aside from a huge bandwidth vacuum.
Wow! I don't want to turn this discussion into a debate  but I disagree. I think it is very pessimistic to speculate that people wouldn't
debate at all, and would leave rather than research a point.
I'm certain there are some people who like to debate for the sake of debating, and are passionate enough about debating in general, that they would
welcome the challenge it would be to tackle something new to them rather then debate the same ol' debates they've had time and again on the boards
or in life about their subjects of interest.
Originally posted by TheBorg
These are but a few of the problems with this. I'm sure there's more. Let's just stick to debating what we know about, please...
Well, I was just asking/suggesting. I appreciate your opinion on the matter, and since we don't have a lot of participants, maybe we do need the
passionate debates to keep people willing to debate and please the masses viewing this thread.
I personally would welcome the challenge. I know some people like myself are willing to debate either side of a subject, so that would lead me to
believe not everyone is as passionate about a side of an issue they debate, as they are just about debating an issue.
But what do I know? I'm a debating-wanna-be!
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reply posted on 19-4-2007 @ 08:28 AM by chissler
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Head-2-Head Kamikaze... ?
Both of you deserve a round of Applause for having me think of this one. While both of you make valid statements, I can't help but think it would be
interesting to see members sign up for a debate in which they have no prior knowledge on. Not to say they are not well versed on the subject, but
they would not be notified what the debate is on until I've authored the thread.
I think we should run with this idea and see how it goes.
Introducing H2H Kamikaze!
This is not for the weak of heart, or the weak of mind. If you are willing to sign up for a "H2H Kamikaze Debate", you better be prepared to do
battle in the ring of all rings. The rules will be tightly enforced, and a time frame will be set for individual posts. Neither opponent will know
what the subject is, and neither will know if they are pro or con. Actually, you will have no idea who your opponent even is.
IF you are interested in this style of debate, please u2u me to notify me that you are interested. Once we have a few members who are
interested, we'll get the ball rolling.
Expect some fine tuning to this "scheme" in the future, but we'll go with it as is for now.
I also wish to note that not every member who signs up for a "H2H Kamikaze Debate" will be selected. I'll do my best to assure that
everyone has an opportunity, but I offer no guarantees.
The ball is in your court.
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reply posted on 19-4-2007 @ 11:39 AM by clearwater
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Well, I don't see what's wrong with letting people start from where they are, how else are you going to improve?
If the debates that bad - just delete the darn thing. 2l82sk8, has taken me up on the offer to debate the pros and cons of abortion.
I'm taking the con side, my understanding is that I prepare an opening statement and send that in to chissler for approval, is that correct?
I'll have to read a few more of the existing debates....Oh it's so exciting...Tehheh
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reply posted on 19-4-2007 @ 11:47 AM by whatukno
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Ow brain hurts from debating Damocles. Ow ow ow ow! That was indeed a intense debate, I have to say that Damocles was phenomenal in his rebuttals and
through out the debate.
Now I need massive amounts of Tylenol to get rid of the brain pain he has caused.
Ok y'all I finished my debate with Damocles (and emptied me a bottle of Tylenol in the process) anyone want to take me up on something else? I like
what chissler was talking about with the Kamikaze debates those sound like a total hoot. But I need more time in different subjects. Stuff I really
have no freaking clue about so I can really test my metal.
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reply posted on 19-4-2007 @ 02:04 PM by chissler
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Originally posted by clearwater
I'm taking the con side, my understanding is that I prepare an opening statement and send that in to chissler for approval, is that correct?
Head-2-Head Debate Templates (Working Thread)
General H2H Debate Rules (UPDATED)
Submit the following in a u2u to me personally.
1. The account names of the members participating. Please be exact about spelling and text case to avoid errors.
2. A one-sentence description of topic you will be debating.
3. The debate positions of the participants (pro or con).
4. The terms of the debate, which should include:
a. How many rounds it will go.
b. Any restrictions on post length, links or other post format restrictions.
c. Any time limits for replies and the overall debate.
d. Terms of forfeiture, i.e., what can cause the debate to end early. By default, forfeiture results from violation of any of the terms of the
debate.
e. How the debate will end and be considered closed.
f. Any other terms agreed upon by the participants.
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reply posted on 20-4-2007 @ 12:18 AM by TheBorg
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Great idea chissler. I'd even go so far as to suggest that for those that like to do this, that they be limited to what knowledge they have. We could
even make a new kind of H2H, calling it Ironman H2H, or something like that. Would put each member on the spot, as it were.
Even though I don't feel like I'd like it that much, I may even try that, or some semblance of it, just for a kick in the teeth.
Good ideas guys. Let's keep it up,
TheBorg
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reply posted on 20-4-2007 @ 04:27 PM by chissler
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Ding.. Ding..
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reply posted on 21-4-2007 @ 02:06 AM by Damocles
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well i had listed my topics i was interested in. 911 is done (and i wont revisit it again)
i was going to take a break from debates for a short time, wuk worked me over, but in light of recent events, im willing to step back into the
ring.
so, anyone up for a debate on the 2nd amendment?
im very pro gun.
very very very pro gun.
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reply posted on 21-4-2007 @ 04:39 AM by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
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I'm open to challenges on:
1] American Imperialism, past / present / future
2] Political Bias Psychology and how society is living a mass delusion because of it
3] The phoney Left/Right paradigm
Send me a U2U!
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reply posted on 21-4-2007 @ 07:02 AM by chissler
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Originally posted by Damocles
i was going to take a break from debates for a short time, wuk worked me over, but in light of recent events, im willing to step back into the
ring.
so, anyone up for a debate on the 2nd amendment?
im very pro gun.
very very very pro gun.
Surely with the recent events, someone can oppose Damocles on this one. I would love to see a debate on this get up and running asap. Eyes up
people, we need a challenger.
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reply posted on 21-4-2007 @ 07:09 AM by TheBorg
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Originally posted by chissler
Surely with the recent events, someone can oppose Damocles on this one. I would love to see a debate on this get up and running asap. Eyes up
people, we need a challenger.
I'll answer the call. I'll even buck up and be the con side, even though I too am VERY pro gun. I'll hang out and do the unthinkable; debate the
opposing argument.  Should prove to be a challenge. I'll begin preparing my intro here over the next couple days, since we have the weekend to
"think". Lookin forward to this Damocles. Good luck man, you'll need it.
TheBorg
[Edited for grammar. Only edit you'll see from me here. Previews from here on out.]
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reply posted on 21-4-2007 @ 07:23 AM by chissler
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I would prefer someone is who is not pro-gun take this side of the argument on this one. If you are interested in debating asap, I can assign you to
our first "H2H Kamikaze" debate.
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reply posted on 21-4-2007 @ 09:45 AM by enjoies05
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reply posted on 21-4-2007 @ 06:29 PM by TheBorg
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Originally posted by chissler
I would prefer someone is who is not pro-gun take this side of the argument on this one. If you are interested in debating asap, I can assign you to
our first "H2H Kamikaze" debate.
Heh, I can wait for the time being. Thanks for letting me know though. I'll keep my ear to the ground, so that I can catch something that I'm
interested in fighting for.
TheBorg
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