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"Freedom" = Imperialism: It's in the Language

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posted on Apr, 12 2007 @ 11:33 PM
So... who are "they?"

posted on Apr, 13 2007 @ 12:03 AM
Who are you referring to with that question?

posted on Apr, 13 2007 @ 12:21 AM
I was referring to the post above mine.

posted on Apr, 13 2007 @ 01:46 AM
More Bush, this time he's including all of humanity:

Google Video Link

Here's some more from that bipartisan document from 9/11/02. I hadn't searched thru it for about a year, back when I hadn't evolved my more focused American Imperialism view. Ended up with 16,000 characters worth of quotes. Tedious. Here's some choice snippets:

Let us move forward as one Nation, one people, for the sake of every single person who believes in freedom and believes in civilization and believes in humanity.

In the days and weeks ahead, let us continue to work together with humility to protect our people, guard our freedoms, and report to the world that America will never be defeated.

It honors the members of our Armed Forces who have been fighting and are today fighting to defend our freedom and secure our Nation.
-Hon. Richard A. Gephardt [D]

Let us also pause today to salute the men and women of our Armed Forces who are out there defending freedom and democracy on the front lines of our war on terrorism.
Hon. Eleanor Holmes Norton

The fact that the establishment consistently refers to our troops as defending "our" 'freedom" only makes my argument even more impossible to refute. How in empire's name does having troops and bases defend us over here? Imagne how fortress like we'd be if all of our forces were here in the US. Forward deployed forces are there to protect "interests" alright... imperialist interests.

Knowing this, we have a duty to prepare our-selves to defend not only our lives and those of our children, not only our beloved country, not only our freedoms, but civilization itself.
Hon. Henry J. Hyde

Note that the opening examples of how we're indoctrinated are the way the establishment presents us with all ancient and historical examples of empires for our way of referencing what a civiliation is.

Now in this case its possible that even Hyde isn't aware of this, like some of the other numerous quote examples from this source. As I've already argued, if these people don't understand the true nature of our system, then they're too incompetent to hold their office and "lead" us. Or they're complicit and are completely on the American Imperialism bandwagon. In either case, they need to be run out of the country to make room for some real public "servants".

All three of these gentlemen, Mr. Speaker, have been in the forefront of
focusing on the foreign policy of the United States. All three have focused on the extension of liberty and justice and freedom throughout this world.
The fire of freedom, Mr. Speaker, forged the American character and it burns deep within our souls. The ashes of tragedy have rekindled that spirit; and 1 year later, the world must know freedom’s light still burns brightly and its eternal truth shall never, never be extinguished. May God, Mr. Speaker, continue to bless and guide America as we continue our commitment to a just Nation and the defense and extension of freedom.
Hon. Steny H. Hoyer

And there it is: "foreign policy". That term is critical in understanding imperialist euphamism rhetoric. The moment you hear the media or politician talking heads invoke that term you can instantly know what they're really talking about.

We will defend the deepest principles of freedom and our Nation’s heritage.
Hon. David D. Phelps

we have what it takes because we inherited a legacy of courage and honor and valor and we must answer this call to courage because what is at stake is freedom.
Hon. Zach Wamp

So what did "we" inherit again???

More still needs to be done; but as we move forward, we have an opportunity to rededicate ourselves to do all we can to work together to preserve the memory of those who perished in making our Nation a better place, a safer place and to ensure that the spirit of freedom, democracy and our core American values continue to burn even brighter in our Nation and around the world.
-Hon. Saxby Chambliss [R]

This bond provides hope that our Nation will heal from our grief and conquer those who would threaten our liberty and our way of life.
-Hon. Michael Bilirakis

On September 11, 2001, freedom-hating terrorists took from all of us our sense of innocence. We, too, are dedicated to a new birth of freedom
here in this new century.
Hon. John Linder

And winning this war, and the long twilight struggle it has become, will require nothing less than a sustained, unswerving commitment to the popagation of freedoms around the world.
Hon. Adam B. Schiff

Throughout America we join together as a community in solidarity to make it clear to the world that our Nation is united and resolved to defend freedom against all enemies, any enemies. We may be Democrats or Republicans, conservatives or liberals.
Because of America’s leader-ship, freedom and democracy are winning in all corners of the world. As President Bush has said, ‘‘We are a people dedicated to the triumph of freedom and democracy over evil and tyranny.’’
Hon. Benjamin L. Cardin

The President will be addressing the United Nations tomorrow. He will be
speaking to all freedom-loving people on the face of this planet.
Hon. Tom Lantos

Today, we find ourselves at the dawn of a new birth of freedom, not only for our Nation, but indeed for all of mankind. We have been given this enormous task, and we will undertake it as only America knows how—head on—and we will succeed. We will capture this opportunity for all of mankind and all time. We will continue to lead this Nation and world that we love,
Hon. Tom Davis

We have renewed our faith in our system of government and re-affirmed our commitment to the spread of freedom and justice around the globe.
Hon. Greg Walden

Now, we must continue to battle for freedom and democracy throughout the world, not only for our own defense, but also in the memory of those who first gave their lives for the cause on September 11, 2001.
Hon. Ken Bentsen

Mr. Meno hopes ‘‘America’s message of peace and freedom can be extended to all corners of the world.’’
Hon. Robert A. Underwood


This thing is full of this language:

posted on May, 29 2016 @ 01:57 AM
This is basic English at this point. But if you need me to explain it to you, I will.....

posted on Jun, 5 2017 @ 01:08 AM
well humans are naturally expansionists and conquerors and without that nature we would still be nomadic tribes spread all over never developing any civilization.

people might like to deny it but our intelligence was born of predatory desires for the sake of standing on top of the world because he who stands on top gets the most water, the most food, the most women, the most descendants and the power to do as they please.

empire is the true final desire of humanity, no of all intelligent life and things like war is just an extension of diplomacy and peace is merely a state of being for those who have attained empire for themselves even temporary, so as long as we desire to live and leave descendants behind we will always seek empire and use whatever means needed to get it.

tell me this, which nations have peace at home? are they weak nations? are they poor nations? are they nations who oppose the powerful nations? do you get the point that power equals peace and only when that power weakens or is lost does war come and empires fall.

humans need freedom or they get violent eventually and even then, even if they have it all they still desire more.

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