Osama's Satellite phone: History Channel debunks the enitre 911 Commission Report

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I found this gem in the History Channels "Echelon" documentary.

They didn't exactly break the story, but they unwittingly underscore possibly one of the most overlooked details about the allegid impossibility to catch/kill Usama.

The 9/11 Commission's entire novel is wrapped around excuse after excuse of how they scouldn't catch this phantom. Not surprisingly, they failed to make much of a mention about this little morsal. From my studies of the 9/11 Commission Report, which included directly looking for their mentionings about this, this is all they had to say about it:

the day after the embassy bombings, Tenet brought to a principles meeting intel that terrorist leaders were expected to gather at a camp near Khowst, Afghanistan, to plan future attacks.
p.116
www.9-11commission.gov...

The phone monitoring apparently all started by Nov '96, after:

They let bin Laden go from the Sudan, after they offered him up.
[Source]
-Denied by the 9/11 Commmission, p.110

The "bin Laden Unit" was formed in Feb. '96.
/2kpubc
-9/11 Commission Report, p.109 (they didnt mention the month)

The Khobar Tower Bombing on June 25, 1996.
/gvleh

Al Qaeda 'whistleblowers', "few months after" May '96, walked into U.S. Embassies, on 2 different occassions, in "Africa" and "a diffrent U.S. Embassy" and disclosed the "character, direction and intentions of Al Qaeda".
-9/11 Commission Report, p.109

Usama declared war in a public Fatwa in August '96, authorizing attacks on Western military targets in the Arabian Peninsula.
/yqm53
/2lk9yf

From there,,

The Bin Laden unit learned "by 1997" that Usama was connected to the '94-95 Bojinka Plot, which was linked to the '93 WTC bombing. Also that he was, according to them, connected to attacks on troops in Aden '92 (& Somalia '93), that the State Dept. had apparently already detected financing in '93.
-9/11 Commission Report, p.109

"They learned that 'Al Qaeda' had a military committee that was planning operations against U.S. interests worldwidde and was actively trying to obtain nuclear material".
-9/11 Commission Report, p.109
More:
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Despite the thus far revelations, "plans to identify and attack Bin Laden's money sources did not go forward".
-9/11 Commission Report, p.109

And despite him publicly declaring war and all the rest, the CIA allegidly still considered him merely a terrorist financier.
-9/11 Commission Report, p. 109

And to add insult to injury, in light of all aforementioned, the CIA’s bin Laden unit is ordered (but doens't get) disbanded in April-May of '98.
/389g3t

Then, after pages and pages of the 9/11 Comm. explained away how they couldn't 'capture' him, the '98 Embassy Bombings occured. Now they were finally ready to attack the sat. phone, but of course they missed.
-See: 1st external citation above
/2pc99b

Sure seems that the CIA and the NSA had no problem exchanging intelligence on this rare occasion, but of course the Report failed to mention anything about how the NSA recorded over two THOUSAND hours of Usama on his phone.
-History Channel, and basically Gen. Michael Hayden who participate din the H.C.'s video yet doesnt deny this, nor ensure that the H.C. doesn't fudged this detail.

For perspective, in December 1996, the NSA refused to share Bin Laden phone surveillance with other US intelligence agencies.
/379lsw

Could it be because 'they' could have shot him directly with a missile when he turned it on? The BBC sure seems to think so:

But calls to the terrorist leader's laptop-size satphone - relayed via an Inmarsat satellite 40,000 km over the Indian Ocean - are going unanswered.
His number - 00873 682505331 - was disclosed earlier this year in the New York trial of his associates for bombing the US embassy in Kenya. Callers now hear a message stating he is "not logged on or not in the dialled ocean region".
…

Bin Laden may, however, have been unaware that NSA "sigint" satellites, listening from space, could pinpoint his location. The satellites are controlled from ground stations near Denver, Munich, and at Menwith Hill in Yorkshire. But they could only locate him when he was logged on.
/28rrv9

And the INMARSAT phone he was using would appear to have tracking capabilities:

Inmarsat C is recommended for the any of the following applications:
· Remote monitoring
· Tracking
/2bz6pa

It just so happens that INMARSAT technology is based on GMDSS:

And for many thousands of vessels, our satellites form the mainstay of the Global Maritime Distress and Safety System (GMDSS), which instantly connect mariners around the world to the nearest rescue centre.
/33w82k

And GMDSS is designed for tracking:

The GMDSS consists of several systems, some of which are new, but many of which have been in operation for many years. The system will be able to reliably perform the following functions: alerting (including position determination of the unit in distress), search and rescue coordination, locating (homing),
/33kcux

That's too bad, as the Commission Report features well over 6 chapters of 230 pages (this is only counting the beginning sections) on the road to pre-911 and how our 'bumbling idiotic' 'leaders' couldn't catch/kill him to save nearly 3,000 lives.

Our omnipotent US Government, including the CIA and NSA, somehow couldn't manage to shoot Osama while using his cell phone, yet somehow the broken down Russians were able to? ... USING THE U.S. NSA??????

American spy satellites, trained on Iraq and Kuwait, were quickly turned north to the Caucasus mountains and Chechnya, according to a former communications specialist with the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA). The satellites pinpointed the Chechen leader's location to within meters of his satellite phone signal, and the coordinates were sent to a Russian Sukhoi Su-25 fighter jet.
/2vdvwn

[edit on 1-4-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

Triangulation of a Cell Phone signal isn't that accurate. In order to reliably take out the target, it would take a missile and there would be lots of "collateral damage".

American spy satellites, trained on Iraq and Kuwait, were quickly turned north to the Caucasus mountains and Chechnya, according to a former communications specialist with the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA). The satellites pinpointed the Chechen leader's location to within meters of his satellite phone signal, and the coordinates were sent to a Russian Sukhoi Su-25 fighter jet.
www.networkworld.com...

Originally posted by sardion2000
Triangulation of a Cell Phone signal isn't that accurate. In order to reliably take out the target, it would take a missile and there would be lots of "collateral damage".

600, 000 iraqis didn't seem to worry their 'collateral damage' nerves.

it's all B.S.

these people are in the business of POWER by any and all means.

that's it. the whole game.

to think that they give a flying fork about killing people by the MILLIONS is to be putting yourself in a weak bargaining position.

Are we talking about Pre or Post Bush? How many hours were recorded after 9/11?

I thought the primary reason that Clinton didn't order the strike was due to collateral damage. If it had been Bush after 9/11, and he didn't want to make the strike, then that's pretty damning.

[edit on 31-3-2007 by sardion2000]

Originally posted by sardion2000
Are we talking about Pre or Post Bush? How many hours were recorded after 9/11?

I thought the primary reason that Clinton didn't order the strike was due to collateral damage. If it had been Bush after 9/11, and he didn't want to make the strike, then that's pretty damning.

[edit on 31-3-2007 by sardion2000]

post khufu, perhaps?

two liner.

I added several things to the first post^
This was a mini-project i started awhile back, and then hastily posted here while forgetting that I hadn't finished tying in all of the perspective.

Now that i've seen it in large text (from profile), I see that "enitre" typo. Doh! Can any mods please fix that (or remove the word entirely/enitrely)?

Apparently, he stopped using the phone sometime after they tried attacking him after the '98 embassy bombings.

It's interesting to note that they didn't actually try to target his phone on this occassion, instead the only thing that did with 'it' was they waited to intercept him at a meeting that he openly arranged using said phone, after the bombings (and alledigly after stopping countless other attacks with sat. phone intel). The 'countless other attacks' part is important because for most of this time the CIA was maintaining that:
1) Usama was only a financier
2) the NSA wasn't sharing information with them (yet somehow all of those 'other' attacks were stopped)


Finally, the History Channel seems to paint a picture that may seriosuly contradict the claims that Usama stopped using the phone after the '98 ordeal, as it's alleged that he was able to escape in Tora Bora, after 9/11, by sending his messenger boy in the opposite direction as the escape route:


www.youtube.com...

[edit on 1-4-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

[edit on 1-4-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

[edit on 1-4-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

Originally posted by sardion2000
If it had been Bush after 9/11, and he didn't want to make the strike, then that's pretty damning.

They wanted to hand over Bin Laden to the US if they provided evidence that he was behind 9/11. The US refused.

Pretty damning if you ask me.

UPDATE:

After extensive re-examining my copy 911 Commission Report I finally dug up their "direct refernce" to his satellite phone:

p.127
"Worst of all, al Qaeda’s senior leadership had stopped using a particular means of communication almost immediately after a leak to the Washington Times. This made it much more difficult for the National Security Agency to intercept his conver-sations.
But since the tribals seemed to know where Bin Ladin was or would
be, an alternative to capturing Bin Ladin would be to mark his location and
call in another round of missile strikes."

Nice job of ommitting what the actual "means of communication" was, and then tiwsting the language around. We can probably thank Phillip Zelicow for that one. This 'admission' is sure to leave the uniformed reader rather clueless about what that "means" was and the fac tthat they could have locked directly onto him with a missile during any of the 2000+ hours that he used it, and they forgot to mention.

Beyond that, apparently even ther claim of the "leak" was made up:
www.washingtonpost.com...