Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Originally posted by benevolent tyrant
This is a perfect example of the sort of think, IMO, that this thread should explore. In a civil manner, as concisely as possible, it might be
interesting to explore the notion that "masons control everything". It's a curious idea. What evidence is there to support that idea?
Perhaps it is something one might have been told or had simply been overheard. Perhaps you were still a child. Those are the type of things --
things overheard but not understood -- are the sort that can make a lasting impression on a kid. Regardless, it is important to try to understand the
historical origins of the facts.
As someone who has studied Masonry, I think I have an explanation for this. I think a lot of it stems from the fact that there are some wealthy
people within Masonry. Wealth generally, to most people, implies power and control.
As far as evidence, I'll be honest, all I have found is some very circumstantial things that implies any Masonic involvement in anything, really.
There is not any solid proof of any "Masonic conspiracy," most of it is just alleged.
Also, there are a lot of people that get labelled as being Masons that are not Masons. I have heard that "every U.S president was a Mason," yet,
when one actually looks into it, only about 13 were actually affiliated with Masonry.
I'd like to begin my reply by saying "thank you". I can appreciate such a clear, concise and direct reply to my questions.
I can appreciate that people might come to view anyone who was wealthier than themselves, especially in historical times when subsistence and poverty
were the norm. Any outward display of wealth (sic) might easily be taken as a semblance of power and control.
Without any true understanding of the origins of "the masons", I will unabashedly display my ignorance in the anticipation that my queries will be
answered. I have always assumed that the masons began as a sort of medieval trade union of sorts. I don't know how I constructed the myths that I
have taken as knowledge surrounding this subject. I have assumed that the wealth and power that the masons held came from that membership or
brotherhood in the trade of building, stonemasonry
and architecture. I always, perhaps ignorantly, believed that the masons held architectural
secrets of design that gave these groups a monopoly of sorts on building.
Everyone needs to live somewhere, right? Often security was an issue. The religious orders needed churches and abbeys. Kings and lords needed
castles, manors and walls -- plenty of walls. The common man of those medieval times would have needed homes and structures as well. Stone was
offered the most durability and security in those uncertain times. But building with stone was not a simple thing and "trade secrets" would have
developed that enabled members of their craft unions to share their developments and knowledge. The craft or union that held the most secrets or best
secrets could facilitate faster and more elaborate construction in the most economical ways. Of course this knowledge would give these
unions/crafts/masons(?) a considerable amount of wealth and, yes, even power.
If this is a myth that I simply developed on my own or through misunderstanding, it was re-enforced. You mention that a number of presidents were
masons. To that end, I knew that George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and, perhaps, others were architects, at least they were most competent in
designing and building not only their homes but structures and, in part, civic engineering projects.
I remember seeing pictures of George Washington in an apron holding a hammer. Given the understanding of masonry that I had developed and had
accepted with out question, many of my beliefs were reinforced by what I simply saw or heard. How far off the mark am I as opposed to the facts as
you have come to know and understand?
[edit on 4/2/2007 by benevolent tyrant]