I thought this transmission to be very interesting..given the case that someone took the time to overcast the frequency and broadcast a POSITIVE message...it doen't matter if it was real or not..it matters that it got the attention of the people in the area...and did any of you guys notice that they "spun" the message and told only the part about the weapons...

Non the less it was very good post. Thank you.

DDay- They are honouring their part of the deal out of good faith. In the Galactic Federation, there are no secrets kept from anyone, unlike the way things are presently done here. They don't hide this stuff from their citizens.

There is a time deadline for us to implement the technology we have been given and disclose all of the information to all of the citizens of earth.

BTW - We are their children, brothers, and sisters, and we have nothing to fear them for. They are here to help us become a part of the Galactic community. It is a part of us maturing and them helping us understand the full implications of what we will become.

This way is not one of forced servitude but of a free will choice on our part. The way of forced servitude is how things are done here on earth right now. They will not force you to do anything, you have a choice in what you do and how you live.

So you say "what is the holdup?", well my friend we are the hold up. They are living up to their end of the bargain that was made. It is us that have rejected the changes we were given.

Yoyu say "I didn't have a vote." ... and now you see what I mean by forced servitude. You will never get a vote about these kinds of things, because it is in the best interests of the people who make your decisions for you, to not give you a voice.

It's a well intentioned message; however, what nicks me is that he mentions the Age of Aquarius. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't our nighttime sky and thus our astrology purely earth-perspective specific?

pardon me while i get on my hands and knees and bow down to the great vrillon of the ashtar galactic command

Have we considered that perhaps the only reason that the signal was so weak and in one place was because it was being sent from so far away? Let's face it; a radio signal is just a collection of waves. If they were even able to pinpoint ONE of our radio stations from anything more than 10,000 miles away, they may be more advanced than we can even hope of understanding. We all may be misunderstanding here. They're not going to bask Earth in radiowaves and disrupt everything, they're going to send a specific signal.

Now, this is speculation on my part. I'm actually with the skeptics. The skeptic is an extremely valuable character in the acquisition of fact and knowledge through-out history. But one thing that every skeptic needs to realize is...we all thought Copernicus was a nutbag when he said the Earth revolved around the Sun...we, the skeptics thought this. He was just a poor crazy man and his idea disappeared for hundreds of years after he suggested it. If something like this comes, no credit is taken by anyone, the BBC itself has no idea what happened, and there is nothing specifically unreasonable or unrealistic about the message received, what do we lose from entertaining the idea of its truthfulness?

I'll say this...unlike any phenomenon on Earth, aliens are thought about and 'encountered' all over the Earth. And I'll be honest, it's been pretty consistent.

Now don't get me wrong, I won't fall victim to the logical fallacy of Appeal to the People. Just because a lot of people believe it, does not mean it's true. But let's not equally perform an Appeal to the People by assuming that because science has not encountered aliens that they are not feasible.

it's an obvious hoax because the "alien" wants us to back away from learning about nuclear energy and how sub atomic science works. yeah right an alien would tell us to cease and desist in learning about one of the key stepping stones for any species and civilization attempting to evolve into something more advanced.

No alien would call nuclear science evil. thats a hippy talking not an alien. The message really doesn't even make sense if you think about it.

Personally as for me I say screw the ashtar command. I envision humans colonizing other planets Starship Trooper style. Bow down before the great and almighty humans. you aliens may have been around the galaxy but you haven't seen nothing until you get a load of human virtuosity. Ever think if an alien did say something as dumb as this ashtar leader it would be to stop us from arming ourselves so that we would be vulnerable to their technology? I say we keep building nukes and point them at the aliens. try that line of BS one more time and we vaporize your armada.

And we should build enough nukes to make the planet from the surface to the deepest caves uninhabitable for a million years. in the event that they do land and succeed in invading our homeworld. if we can't have it than neither will they. bring it on ashtar dweebs and get a load of humanity. were real, were out there and we are coming to your planet next. Gunna teach you about whos the better species and give you a lesson in survival of the fitest and human manifest destiny. your alien existence is but speed bump in our destiny to rule the galaxy. maybe that is the destiny the aliens are so afraid we will manifest. well too bad, were coming for that ass you pelaidians and reticulans.

Well, I'm 42 and when I was a child before this was even posted, and before internet even existed I remember my mother talking about this transmission. She was never a believer in aliens. I believe that the freak transmission existed, however, what is posted in youtube is a fictional elaboration in my opinion. I remember my mother saying that the transmission was not a long one at all, but merely, a desparate-like request for the people of this planet to stop using nuclear technology and making bombs. Then it was over. It seemed like it was coming from an extraterrestrial source. She was talking about how it panicked the population watching tv at the time. That was how she started the story. My mother did not believe in nuclear weapons as a standard for war. So that's how she caught notice of the news on this transmission. Her greatgrandfather and great uncles ran an underground railroad in Norway during WWII.

It's certainly interesting.

For all those suggesting that British accent must mean it is a hoax...

This was in ENGLAND!

If one were to assume that it was genuine, what language do you think they would have spoken? What accent do you think they should have chosen?
What familiar terminology would they use?
Perhaps they'd use a language that the audience would understand, an accent the audience would understand, modern terminology the audience would understand...?

Would it be more credible to you if they spoke with an American accent?

The only thing that tells me without a doubt that this is a hoax, is that there is no evidence of it happening anywhere else at the same time. If they had the ability to interrupt regional transmissions, they would have done so across the globe and informed everyone, not just a small section of a small country.

When I was a kid of about 9, we got a pair of walkie-talkies that had a very large range on them for some reason.

We could get cop channels, etc.

So of course we decided to mess around. The best was person who became very concerned about our nazi invasion.

"Ve are de germ'ns....."

[edit on 2009/2/1 by Aeons]

Hello ,

I find this very interesting and agree that the accent would represent the area and the language people speak.

I would bet if this was Japan the Space People would speak there language.

Another thing if you research the story and listen to a complete audio of this the owners of ITN said they could not find anyone who hoaxed this .

Till this day nothing.

No one could ever prove it was a hoax.

So its an unsolved mystery .

Before I begin expound on my theories and support for the Vrillon message, I will admit that it is highly difficult to discern the validity of the audio, regardless of the source.

With that said, let us have a look at the factors involved in the reception of the transmission. First, we have a British transmission system, through which the message was received. I have seen it pointed out multiple times that it's rather coincidental that Vrillon spoke English, and British English at that. I would like to point out, in my turn, that we have an exceptionally narrow grasp of communicating with extraterrestrial species, and thus no precedent cases by which to judge either language or dialect. It's perfectly reasonable to say that perhaps Vrillon tapped into the first broadcasting station available, mimicked the language and accent he/she/it observed in the ongoing transmissions for clarity's sake, and moved on with the message.

Also, there is the fact that every single channel being interrupted by the transmission seems completely oblivious to it. That implies that there was no indication of any transmitter of the United Kingdom area being unlawfully accessed or utilized. Furthermore, it implies that the source was OUTSIDE of the network, similar to a computer hacker using a device from outside of a country in order to access networks within that country.

Additionally, no one has stepped forward to claim responsibility for this act, nor are there any markers by which to identify assumed perpetrators of the act. This is markedly strange, as such a deliberate transmission would likely have a very 'important' purpose behind it. There is no point in committing an act for such a deep-seated cause if you won't claim credit for it. Doubtless the government will manage to 'procure' a culprit, or obtain supposed evidence of it being a particular person or organization's doing, should too many questions be asked (which is unlikely). However, the simple fact that no one has VOLUNTARILY stepped forward says right away that perhaps it didn't have Earthly origins. Keep in mind, this was during a peace-promoting era, when it was a shame to NOT slap your name on a demonstration. Therefore, it is very indicative of a non-human influence...not to mention the various references to ideas that weren't entirely widespread at that point, as well as a demonstrative technique that wasn't in great use.

Finally, we must look at technology. According to other threads, no less than five transmitters were hacked in order to deliver this message. At that day and age (the 70's) who would have the equipment and positioning to access and utilize five separate transmitters? One would be reasonable, two would be possible but unlikely, three would be stretching it...but FIVE?

All of this comes together to create an increasingly unlikely scenario of human interference with the British broadcasting system. More and more points to something other than human...but if it wasn't human, what was it?

This is simply my argument for the whole case. If anyone can sufficiently refute this argument, please feel free to do so.