...I would not want to be the one who has to "lance the boil" on that one. All that pressure. That is going to be one hell of a steam burn OUCH....

I don't think you understand how a volcanic eruption works... Its not the underground pressure alone that causes the eruption, but rather it is mixing O2 with the gasses and pressures of the magma chamber. What you suggest, drilling to relieve the pressure would in fact Be The Cause of the SuperEruption that you are trying to avoid!!!

There is no way to stop the eruption, HOWEVER, It is my belief that a Super Volcanic Eruption is Neccessary to stop the effects of Global Warming. Volcanos release 1,000's of Tonns of Ash into the Atmasphere which block harmful solar radiation from reaching the earth...

If and When Yellowstone goes Boom it will be followed by several months of worldwide Darkness, causing global temperatures to drop by several degrees and throw the world back into Little Ice Age.

Its The Earths Way of protecting itself from the Sun...And I expect the Yellowstone Super Volcano to ERUPT during SOLAR MAX in the Year 2012!


But thats not the Worse Part! The Worse Part is that if you breath this volcanic Ash it will mix with the water in your lungs and turn your insides into Concrete! And this Ash Cloud will cover an area from California to The Mississippi River.... But the Worser Part, is that is where most of the food in the whole world is produced. Famine will destoy whats left of America. & I didn't even mention the Acid Rain or the roof/structural collapses under the weight of the ash when mixed with rain water because I don't want to scare you!

During the Last known Supervolcanic Eruption SUMATRA about 50,000 years ago or so, almost caused the extinction of the Human Race with only 50 - 500 Breeding Females in the Whole World...As a result of the Ice Age and Crop Failures and general breakdown of the food chain that followed.

In Conclusion, There is nothing that we can do to stop it...but its really not such a bad things, its just a part of the natural cycle and its happened many times before...If you live in the Blast Area then You Need To Move Now! David Korresh said this and he was killed because it would have destroyed local economies and property values for the entire blast area.


Its a Good Thing that I live East of the Mississippi River... Oh and by the way, When Yellowstone Erupts it will cause MASSIVE EarthQuakes in California and the St. Louis!!!

"The Pheonix will rise from the Ashes"... in case you didn't know The Pheonix is America and the Ashes are the results of Yellowstones Eruption.

Now You Know Why America isn't Mentioned in the Bible...

the resulting high pressure molton lave would the be transported using using pipelines and would be used to fll underground cavities or fill in the troughs between hill, hummocks, or mountains.

What exactly do you propose to build these pipes out of?

the technology to stop volcanos is very simple and before i tell you i assert exclusive owenership of this particular idea to stop volcanos exploding

Im pretty sure that your going to need to patent some new type of technology to move molten rock.

And the same goes for the drill that starts it.

The theory is great, but not new. Any huge source of heat could be used for power. Just look at solar. Its obvious that there is a lot of heat under us, but the stuff above us is easier and safer to use. But good luck

Originally posted by Chronic_Blaze

the resulting high pressure molton lave would the be transported using using pipelines and would be used to fll underground cavities or fill in the troughs between hill, hummocks, or mountains.

What exactly do you propose to build these pipes out of?


Im pretty sure that your going to need to patent some new type of technology to move molten rock.

And the same goes for the drill that starts it.

The theory is great, but not new. Any huge source of heat could be used for power. Just look at solar. Its obvious that there is a lot of heat under us, but the stuff above us is easier and safer to use. But good luck

The technology exists already....

The pipes are made of steel lined with shuttle heat tiles to stop melting...

Lancing the boil is the best solution...

the volcano is just like a pressure chamber with the pressure increasing which will cause it to explode....UNLESS WE STOP IT....

remember if you love america and want to save it then you need to lance this boil...

already SOME pressure is being relieved through natural rock poroisty and geysers and fissures BUT it is not enough which is why 200 pipeline holes need to be drilled to release the pressure under control...


yes yes solar power is onderful but it is totally useless as its VERY DIFFUSE...spread over a very large area...MAGMA is a very concentrated heat source and easier to use ...very low cost....


see i have answered every question...

admin edit[/]: Removed childish, churlish remarks directed at a fellow member. We don't do that here.

[edit on 4-19-2007 by Springer]

I watched a show on this very subject and they said that your idea was not possible..The first reason they gave was that there is no drill that can drill that deep and the second reason they gave was you would need millions of holes...I believe the show was on National Geographic Channel..I don't have any links but I'm sure it would be easy to find..

Originally posted by gotanybob
I watched a show on this very subject and they said that your idea was not possible..The first reason they gave was that there is no drill that can drill that deep and the second reason.....

Your info is 20 years out of date.

The entire point of drilling is to stabilize the pressure.

200 would be more than enough.

As the hot magma/gas was bled of the the pressure increase would stabilise and eventually start to drop.

Its simple physics.Do you know anything about steam trains or boilers?

they have a device called a valve or governer which opens to release the pressure if it exceeds a certain value.
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Your assertion that they cant drill deep is absured..how do you think they get oil out?


Also hot rock is soft rock making it even easier to drill!

In any case the energy benefits have been totally ignored.


and when you to talk OLD fuddy duddy scientists they always say it's impossible.


old people automatically block new ideas.

they have very limited imagination.

THEY ARE ALSO JEALOUS of the young upstart who suggests something they have not thought of....

scientists are very jelous of each other and are engaged in the credit rat race.

THEY FREQUENTLY INDULGE IN SMEAR CAMPAIGNS AGAINST THEIR RIVALS.

check your science history.

remember clark's 3 laws?

progress is made by people who dared to think and implement unconventional ideas.



[edit on 19-4-2007 by beckybecky]

Originally posted by beckybecky
Its simple physics.Do you know anything about steam trains or boilers?

they have a device called a valve or governer which opens to release the pressure if it exceeds a certain value.

Which is already there before you pressurise it, whereas opening up something pressurised generally causes it to come out. How else do you suppose eruptions work?

and when you to talk OLD fuddy duddy scientists they always say it's impossible.
old people automatically block new ideas.
they have very limited imagination.

No, they know what is impossible, or very unlikely to work, and when 200 million lives hang in the balance, you tread very carefully.

THEY FREQUENTLY INDULGE IN SMEAR CAMPAIGNS AGAINST THEIR RIVALS.

Thats what politicians do I thought.

BTW, using all caps is against the T&C. Also you already have a warn, do you want another?

Your info is 20 years out of date.

The show was shown towards the end of 2006 and it had all current info about Yellowstone..

Your assertion that they cant drill deep is absured..how do you think they get oil out?

LOL!! I don't remember the exact distance but the magma it a lot deeper the any oilfield..They talk about about this very issue..This show was based on the Yellowstone super volcano and was filmed in the past year so your assertion that is out dated info couldn't be farther from the truth..

[edit on 4/19/2007 by gotanybob]

Originally posted by citizen smith
Nice idea..buuuut:

How do you prosose to keep the lava hot enough to be pumped as a fluid throughout a pipeline without it cooling and causing a blockage?

:

LAVA STORES A LOT OF HEAT AND COOLS VERY SLOWLY....


and we dont even need steel pipes at all....just use lava channels.

The icelanders when a volcano erupted simply made channels by cooling the edges with water and DIRECTED the lave flow into the sea many miles away...simple

we are only transporting it a short distance where it will used to drive steam turbines and then used to make large size bricks/building blocks and moulded houses etc...

scientists and engineers have now drilled right down to the mantle !

i dont understand why you all against the idea.

maybe you are jelous or you did not think of it first.i dont care about the credit for the idea.


or its just too big and bold idea for you and you all want us to be victims of random natural disasters as some kind of penance for a stinking lousy world.



or maybe you think that a destroyed world starting over will be better.

no it wont.

and it will have less to start of with in resources.

and there will an even higher level of savagery and you lot will not be exempt....

a lot of people crave going back to savage lawless times without law and order and this blinds them to the fact that they will suffer and die a horrible death too.This is what watching too much hollywood does to you.


This is called the G.O.D syndrome due to selective memory.

Originally posted by esecallum
i dont understand why you all against the idea.

maybe you are jelous or you did not think of it first.

Not the case at all, I and other posters were questioning your idea to get a better angle on your concept...being challenged on your ideas and inventions is all part of the critical-thinking and analysis process of any invention...just ask the likes of Trevor Bayliss or James Dyson, hence why I ended my post with this comment to encourage wider/deeper thinking on how your proposal could work...

Keep the ideas coming...it took Edison hundreds of attempts of how-not-to invent a light-bulb before he the idea to finally work

If you feel that your idea has been rubbished and pulled to bits at the first 'crit', take what's been said on-board and make adjustments and fine-tune and present them for the next round

Originally posted by esecallum
the yellowstone volcano is the greatest threat america faces.it poses more real threat than from any number of raghead terrorists.

It's amazing to me how one racist remark like this can make me completely uninterested in everything else you have to say.

Pedants corner input: Beckybecky said: Your info is 20 years out of date.

The Yellowstone caldera was not known about 20 years ago.

I personally doubt that the pressure in Yellowstone's magma chamber (enough to raise the incredible mass of earth above it by a metre in a decade or so) could be coped with by any oil drilling gear. Besides the magma chamber is far deeper than any currently exploited oil fields, even counting the sea depth in the gulf.

The cycle seems to be approximately 600,000 years, and the last eruption was 650,000 years ago. So you are talking about relieving the pressure that has built up over that time, more than enough to have caused the initial caldera-forming eruption and the subsequent ones.

The only solution to Yellowstone is to hope that it takes another 1000 years or so to explode. I doubt America or Europe will exist by then, and it will be SEP.