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reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 01:44 PM by Canada_EH
reply to post by WestPoint23



Other then the fact that they are now down one more engine and at the moment we are unaware as to where the other 4 engines are at as 2 now have failed in testing. Your right its a issue that we knew of its just going to put more stress on the testing of AA-1 and BF-1 with less powerplants and no new ones till next year if I understand correctly.


reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 09:28 PM by Canada_EH
reply to post by Zaphod58



So then it that case they are only testing one engine at a time then? Also any idea how long the testing takes to clear a engine for use? Any sources on how long the delay will be Zaph? What your saying sounds reasonable but if you have a linky that would be great


reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 01:05 PM by Canada_EH
Originally posted by Zaphod58
Sorry, I can't give out my sources.


Fine sheesh I guess I understand.

Well more information has come out from a report on Flight Global and it says that P&W have tested a number of other of the 6 engines and 2 of the conventional use engines that are used on the F-35A/C. The two that passed where engines 1-3 and they have been cleared for use in flight testing.

"FTE 6 was next in line. A single LP turbine blade responded to the vibration and broke," says Bill Gostic, F135 programme vice-president. "That was the intent [of the proof test]. We fully expected to find blades that cracked, but believed we could identify them before they broke. That was the surprise."

To replace the damaged STOVL engine, P&W planned to begin proof testing FTE 2 on 8 February, but the incident will delay the start of propulsion system testing on BF-1 at Lockheed. "The extent of any delay is still to be decided," says Gostic.


At the current rate P&W have rolled out a engine a month for the flight test program. So Zaph is right in that the delay wont be to significant and 30 days isn't too substantial in the long run at the time being.

P&W thinks the problem is restricted to STOVL F135s, because the LP turbine works harder when powering the shaft-driven lift fan. Although the F135 is derived from the F119 engine powering the Lockheed F-22, the third LP turbine stage was added to power the lift fan.

P&W is redesigning the third-stage LP turbine vane, but plans to proof test all ground- and flight-test F135s. Gostic expects the improved design to be implemented beginning with the second low-rate initial production batch of STOVL engines.

www.flightglobal.com...


reply posted on 8-2-2008 @ 09:36 PM by Canada_EH
reply to post by Zaphod58


The engineer in the bottom corner is awesome. You can totally tell he/she is like "awe yeeeah". Makes up for it extremely well Zaph I hadn't seen that yet.

[edit on 8-2-2008 by Canada_EH]


reply posted on 11-2-2008 @ 03:31 PM by Canada_EH
Some interesting insight into the Washington snake pit. My question is who is biting who and why can't they just focus on a well balanced force and what that would be and not who makes the most at least some of the time. I know I know when will that happen. Seems to me like anything that touches this part of government is more or less given the kiss of death. Anyways here it is.

England "lost a succession struggle" at Lockheed, Thompson wrote, and "now wants to kill his creation". England's "creation" apparently means the F-22, which he is indeed trying to kill to secure the future of the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

I know what you're asking: Both aircraft of course are built by Lockheed, so why would England's industry past alone presuppose him to favor one or the other? Could Thompson's mercurial hint about a past "succession struggle" at Lockheed have played a part in England's current Raptor antipathy?

One of the jobs up for grabs in the spring of May 8, 1995 was president of the restructured Lockheed Martin's Fort Worth-based aeronautics division. The position was left vacant after the previous occupant, Kenneth Cannestra, decided to "retire" early in the wake of a bribery scandal in Egypt. The article says:

There was a struggle for Cannestra's powerful Lockheed Martin position, and the winner was James A. 'Mickey' Blackwell Jr., formerly head of Lockheed's Georgia-based military aircraft division. Blackwell's elevation prompted England, one of the other competitors for the job, to leave, company officials said.

www.flightglobal.com...

I give a quick reminder that this information though political in nature is directly tied to the F-35 program and its development and production. So any comments on said information should pertain to mentioned projects.


[edit on 11-2-2008 by Canada_EH]


reply posted on 14-2-2008 @ 03:48 AM by Harlequin
www.star-telegram.com...


given all thats going on with the developement of this aircraft


firing 650 of the engineers isn`t really the smartest thing to do


reply posted on 29-2-2008 @ 05:20 AM by Harlequin
F35B to only fly CTOL till years end at least

www.flightglobal.com...

Flight testing of Lockheed Martin's short take-off and vertical landing F-35B will be confined to conventional up-and-away flying until Pratt & Whitney can fully clear its F135 engine for STOVL operation. Aircraft BF-1 is planned to fly in June, but will not begin STOVL flight testing until the end of the year.

Following a turbine blade failure in the F135 planned for BF-1, P&W is proof-testing a replacement flight-test engine, but it will not be cleared to full STOVL thrust, where the vibration occurs that causes the blade to crack. "We believe the problem is a vibration in powered lift mode at very high power," says Bill Gostic, vice-president F135 programme



with a heavy weapons load bring back for a vtol landing , which has been done many times - high engine power is very much used , so this could be very problematic to say the least.


when is GE going to fly the F136?
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