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reply to post by WestPoint23
Originally posted by WestPoint23AA-1 is not representative of the F-35B due to redesign changes made while it was being assembled. BF-1
on the other hand is much closer in comparison to the F-35B, hence why I did not bring t up.
AA-1 is the finite version of the F35A
- the weight reduction applied to the F35B is now being applied accross the entire range - by LM
themselves and not because of any contracts changing the build.
Originally posted by WestPoint23Umm… no LM or the US military has not publically or officially released anything to indicate such. An
unconfirmed, unnamed, person (yes singular) claiming to work within the huge F-35 program stating unsupported information is, as I said above,
Neither LM nor the US military announced the electrical system redesign because they messed it up and it was shorting out , nor did they mention the
engine gearbox redesign at an additional cost of $71 million for the engines used by both the F35C and the F35A - only a keen sighted websight spotted
the new contract which they were hoping to slip out quietly.
so do i would suggest reading around regarding this aircraft and not dismiss out of hand , what you call speculation, because it did not come from LM
Originally posted by WestPoint23Please quote, you wont because there is nothing but a single passage from a source such as the one I
previous conversations , linking the likes of flight global , DID , defencetech, defence-aerospace etc all supporting more than 1 insider.
Originally posted by WestPoint23Umm… no it does not, please read up before stating such. What LM has proposed is to reduce the number
of test flights due to computer simulations and other advanced means or testing. However that has nothing to do with the structure of the program, or
how many test aircraft there will be.
LOL - no ; LM want to reduce the number of airframes being used from 15 to 13 and for the number of test flights (reduce by 800) as they have `run of
of money` or rather there contingency fund - and so risk` losing profit` per airframe - since the US military has allready cut the number to be
ordered - and will likely further cut the number.
from august but adresses it nicely - they messed up with the over weight aircraft.
Originally posted by WestPoint23For some refreshing, the X-35 (ABC) were all prototypes because they were the concept and technology
demonstrators. They not only had major structural and design differences (from the final production version) but they also used off the shelf
technology and systems to simulate advanced ones that would eventually be fielded. And in some case the X series lacked certain systems altogether
because it was just a technology and concept demonstrator. It was not a test aircraft by any stretch of the imagination
no thats wrong, the JSF competition was held along similar lines to the ATF - that each company could design an aircraft for a certain criteria and
then prove that the aircraft could match the design within a certain margin ; redesigns which were not overly massive came later - same as the
all except the weight problem - which is an LM mistake.
As for systems - thats other companies jobs - LM`s job was to build a flying aircraft and work with others to intergrate teh systems to fight it -
those systems would have been similar for either of the JSF aircraft.
The raptor has 2 X test aircraft for 1 reason - engines ; both were flown with both of the engine choices - which is different to the JSF in that the
P&W engine was chosen and it was only the UK that want the GE engine, hence why it was due to be cancelled until the UK put pressure on it not to be
Originally posted by WestPoint23The F-35 series already had the X-35 initial prototypes and there will be a total of 23 test aircraft
(F-35's of all variants) built for various purposes. Of these 15 will be used for flight tests, 7 for non-flight tests and one will be a radar
signature test airframe. These pre production models will be thoroughly tested and they do in some forms differ from the final production standard.
IOC (at the earliest) for the F-35A is scheduled for 2011, so there will be several years of IOT&E.
those aircraft used for flight testing - same as the F22 as well , will be brought up to operational standards and then deployed - ergo they will be
production standard aircraft used for testing.