new theory about atlantis(thera/santorini)

Urartu, Ararat and the modern name of the land is Armenia. Where the people of Armenia came from is unkown. Some say the people of Armenia came from Atlantis or from Europe or even Greece and mixed in with the natives of Anatolia. The Armenians also defeated the Babylonians and were once a great empire. Their language is an Indo-European, but the land is located in Asia minor. There is no other language like it. Armenia has its own Stonehenge, and it is much older than that of Englands. Also all the animals of the zodiac can be found there.

There are also speculations that the Santorini eruption/explosion in addition to wiping out the Minoans could have "divided the waters" for Moses. It happened at that time, and it also caused a tsunami which hit the area where "God divided the waters" for Moses and his people when they fled from the Egyptians.

Originally posted by dascorp
Urartu, Ararat and the modern name of the land is Armenia. Where the people of Armenia came from is unkown. Some say the people of Armenia came from Atlantis or from Europe or even Greece and mixed in with the natives of Anatolia

The Armenians (Armenian: Հայեր, Hayer) are a nation and an ethnic group originating in the Caucasus and eastern Anatolia

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by dascorp
The Armenians also defeated the Babylonians and were once a great empire.

Armenia and Babylonia were allies
after the armenian royal family were seized by Cyrus of Persia they joined the persians. it was the persian army who captured Babylonia
all the Armenians did was changed sides halfway through (bit like the italians in WW2 but no one is claiming the Italians won the war)
penelope.uchicago.edu...*.html

Originally posted by dascorp
Their language is an Indo-European, but the land is located in Asia minor. There is no other language like it.

Culturally, historically, and politically, Armenia is considered to be part of Europe.However, its location in the southern Caucasus means that it can also be considered to be at the arbitrary border between Europe and Asia;

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by dascorp
Armenia has its own Stonehenge, and it is much older than that of Englands. Also all the animals of the zodiac can be found there.

thats almost true
it isn't actually a stone henge which is named because the stones "hang in the air"
and it isn't exactly impressive is it



but apart from that I agree with you 100%

Are there any sources supporting the original claim of this thread and that this is based on -- or is this a thread that is simply member speculation? Speculation gets moved (as we all know) to Skunk Works.

Originally posted by Dragonlike
Subsequently, Atlandis is in Mesopotamia. To match, Plato did a mistake. He wanted to write East and for reasons only the ''theory of mistakes'' can grant he wrote West.

I'm sorry that this is a little off topic, but I lurk in this forum a lot without much to add. I notice that you (Dragonlike) ALWAYS type ATLANDIS instead of ATLANTIS... Is that the greek pronunciation?

nope
ist simply so he can later claim that its an anagram of "At Island" and then claim that some island elsewhere is actually Atlantis
see the fifth post down in this thread where he claims

posted by Dragonlike
Let's make a fake conception and assume that Atlandis is Mesopotamia. An other name of mesopotamia is ''The island''. (I read it somewhere in my history books so do not ask me to blow the dust from them away

this doesnt mean his reasoning is flawed
it just means he has a sense of humour
but not many people have noticed

posted by Hellmut
There are also speculations that the Santorini eruption/explosion in addition to wiping out the Minoans could have "divided the waters" for Moses

simcha jacobi
pfttttt
hes now claiming to have found the body of Jesus is a tomb in Israel
next week no doubt he will have found the holy grail
the week after that it will be the ark of the covenants turn


[edit on 30-3-2007 by Marduk]

After some serious search in my old books i found that Mesopotamia is a part of land today is called by the Arabs Jezira ("the island"). In fact, its not the region of Mesopotamia per se once the name is refered at northern Iraq and eastern Syria.

I google it and found it
Here

The mistake is all mine for giving too much antiquity at this name. It must have been used when the Arab started spreading around the word fulfilling their Jihad.

The Muslims conquered the lands of Syria and Palestine (634—640),
the lands of Iraq (641).

My speculation here: ''The island'' name should have been given to these lands by a knowledge already known there. The library of Alexandria hasn't been destroyed according to the official statement of the Catholic church in 642 AC.

Originally posted by Whargoul
ALWAYS type ATLANDIS instead of ATLANTIS... Is that the greek pronunciation?

Close your eyes and tell someone to read it to you both ways. Will you notice the difference Atlandis from Atlantis?

Originally posted by Marduk
ist simply so he can later claim that its an anagram of "At Island" and then claim that some island elsewhere is actually Atlantis

Actually, i thought this was Esoteric teacher's part not mine


[edit on 30-3-2007 by Dragonlike]

more about AlJazira here
en.wikipedia.org...

as I already proved that the term "the island" didn't exist in any original mesopotamian language and you already proved that the name is Islamic in origin I think we're gonna have to write off the claim that Mesopotamia was Atlantis
psd.museum.upenn.edu... - engulf
psd.museum.upenn.edu... - heaven
psd.museum.upenn.edu... - mountain
as you can see from the top left of each of these pages there is nothing in any mesopotamian language that could lead anyone to believe that ATLANTIS or ATLANDIS was ever a word known to inhabitants of this region, and that in fact as there is nothing in the Plato myth about any mountains being englufed or heaven being involved in the story at all, so this imo is a complete non starter



p.s. be very careful whenever you type Al Jazira on any webpage. the F.B.I. and C.I.A. monitors all references with this word especially when it is combined with "bomb" , "nuclear" or "Osama bin Laden"
so be careful you arent followed next time you visit your islamic terrorist deep cover cell when you are in athens plotting an outrage. Allah akbar (thats another one)





[edit on 30-3-2007 by Marduk]

Originally posted by Marduk

as I already proved that the term "the island" didn't exist in any original mesopotamian language and you already proved that the name is Islamic in origin I think we're gonna have to write off the claim that Mesopotamia was Atlantis

In fact there hadn't been any claim that Mesopotamia was Atlandis, scroll up to make sure my words are edibly written.

Originally posted by Marduk
as you can see from the top left of each of these pages there is nothing in any mesopotamian language that could lead anyone to believe that ATLANTIS or ATLANDIS was ever a word known to inhabitants of this region, and that in fact as there is nothing in the Plato myth about any mountains being englufed or heaven being involved in the story at all

I already stated it was a fake assumption for the shake of fiction. Later the discusson directed towards the name ''island'', by you and now you point out again Atlandis. These discussion circles may prohibit the reader from finding a clean spot to read, you know.

Originally posted by Dragonlike
In fact there hadn't been any claim that Mesopotamia was Atlandis, scroll up to make sure my words are edibly written

yum yum

Originally posted by Dragonlike
Subsequently, Atlandis is in Mesopotamia.

Originally posted by Dragonlike
These discussion circles may prohibit the reader from finding a clean spot to read, you know.

let me remind you this is a totally pointless thread pretending to claim that the idea that Thera was atlandis is a new idea, and wasn't mentioned for the first time over 100 years ago. as such this thread is totaly erroneous, circular and pointless and has in fact already been covered here at ATS on no less than about 100 seperate occaisons.

Originally posted by Dragonlike
Let me guess,
you are the smartass, don't you

yup