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reply posted on 28-3-2007 @ 08:04 PM by Verbal_Hologram
Originally posted by uberarcanist
Here's a highly speculative personal theory. At one point in time, aliens and humans lived together on Earth and collaborated to form a number of highly advanced societies, among those Atlantis, Lemuria, Mu, some of the ancient cultures of India, etc. I could really elaborate here but I assume you're familiar with the ancient astronaut theories.

The technologically advanced but philosophically immature humans recklessly abused alien technology, a colossal power struggle ensued between the human nations, most of which were almost completely destroyed as was the entire human race. The smartest of the survivors made a pact with the aliens to keep alien technology secret, aliens themselves, and to control man's technological evolution. In other words, to hold man back for his own good. The survivors were the progenitors of many of today's secret societies.


Originally posted by uberarcanist
In support of my own theory (shameless self-promoter, I know! ), consider how often these themes occur in human mythology/fiction:

Gods or godlike beings responsible for the foundation of civilization.
A golden age in the distant past.
A cataclysmic event that almost wipes out mankind, usually due to man's "sins".
A select group of people who have communication with Gods and use this communication to direct the development of society.

It's kind of like whoever wrote these stories was trying to tell you something without telling you something.


Originally posted by Hellmutt
Why did we suddenly become "civilized" and started to build cities and stuff? Where did this "sudden" intelligence come from? I believe our ancestors were actually astronauts from another world. Whether these astronauts mixed with the earthlings or not, I don't know. But I'm pretty sure we are not from this world. Bigfoot/Sasquatch/Ksy-Gyik/Yeti/Tungu/etc. are probably pure species of the earth. And the neandertals were as well. We are the aliens, and we don't even know it. This is just a theory, btw. Don't take any of what I said in this post as scientific facts...


After reading countless books, articles, watching documentaries and personal research over the years, these are the conclusions that i believe to be true of man kinds past. One has to wonder why we do not fit into natural habitats and ecosystems like the other species on the planets do and why every single animal, insect and species has a natural predator except for us???


reply posted on 7-4-2007 @ 05:41 PM by Xtal_Phusion
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Originally posted by Verbal_Hologram
Originally posted by uberarcanist
...aliens and humans lived together on Earth and collaborated to form a number of highly advanced societies, Atlantis, Lemuria, Mu...India, etc...I assume you're familiar with the ancient astronaut theories. The technologically advanced but philosophically immature humans recklessly abused alien technology...to hold man back for his own good.


An interesting thought but if true, you would have to wonder why these aliens left. Why not just take our toys away and ground us for a century or two? At least then we would be thinking about the consequences of our actions as we sit in time-out rather than allowing so much time to pass between our crimes and punishment that the smack on the nose with the newspaper becomes meaningless. We lose wisdom with lost history. Are you familiar with Dogu?

Originally posted by uberarcanist
Gods or godlike beings responsible for the foundation of civilization.


We feel better if we believe someone is watching over us when we're scared and in a bad situation. Religion is a coping mechanism. In my field, it is not uncommon for researchers to invent/acquire rituals, lucky charms & idols to try and get good results from tricky reactions. "If you don't leave a sacrifice of dry ice to the God of Ligation, it will fail!"

Originally posted by uberarcanist
A golden age in the distant past.


Ah, the good ol' days!

Originally posted by uberarcanist
A cataclysmic event that almost wipes out mankind, usually due to man's "sins"


Kids blame themselves for their parents' divorces all the time but that doesn't make them responsible for the split. It is a natural way of reacting to helpless situations. How many times in a moment of powerlessness have you asked yourself, "Why me? What did I do to deserve this?" Natural catastrophes are NATURAL!

Originally posted by uberarcanist
A select group of people who have communication with Gods and use this communication to direct the development of society.


Just because people say they're special, doesn't mean they are. Anyone who wants to lead others needs to give them a good reason to follow. Loyalty must be earned and followers need to believe they are getting something in return. Hitler was charismatic too but I cannot imagine someone so evil having access to deities expected to adhere to a higher ethical standard.

Originally posted by Hellmutt
Why did we suddenly become "civilized" and started to build cities and stuff? Where did this "sudden" intelligence come from? I believe our ancestors were actually astronauts from another world. Bigfoot/Sasquatch/Ksy-Gyik/Yeti/Tungu are...of the earth. And the neandertals were as well. We are the aliens. This is just a theory, btw.


I have been spending a great deal of time on this question lately and the motivation for civilization is not so straightforward.
However I have no doubt H. sapiens & neandertalis were always terrestrial. Others listed are probably bear sightings. All "evidence" I've seen was definitely fake.

Originally posted by Hellmutt
One has to wonder why we do not fit into natural habitats and ecosystems like the other species on the planets do and why every... species has a natural predator except for us???


Our environment has shaped us into intelligent beings capable of adapting ourselves to change. You vs Alligator. Need I say more? Adaptation: BRAIN. Fair fight?

Originally posted by Hellmutt
survivors were the progenitors of many of today's secret societies.


My family is full of freemasons & the strangest gift I ever received from them was a book about evolution. I was crazy about it but always wondered why such "good Christians" would give me such a thing!

[edit on 4/7/2007 by Xtal_Phusion]


reply posted on 7-4-2007 @ 07:35 PM by Xtal_Phusion
Originally posted by GENERAL EYES
Quite honestly - I think the term "us" is a misnomer.

I've never felt at home in this society, never understood the priorities of the dominant culture, and never understood why "humans" always think we're the same simply because (most of "us") have the same basic genetic makeup....Am I claiming to be an "alien"? No. I have no proof that I am. I just know I don't understand this culture, I find it interesting, but completely incomprehensible. There is good about it, and there is bad.
But to call "us" a collective race? I can't believe it. Sorry.


*Sigh!* I know what you mean when you say you feel alien without actually claiming to be one. It's only going to get worse as people become increasingly solitary and less social. I feel like diversity has decreased among those comfortable with pop-culture to such a degree that should something truly Earth-shattering come along, all these American Idol-loving cultural clones won't have a clue what to do with themselves! It will be just like grade school when the popular kids who didn't do their homework expect to cheat off your paper because you did yours! I think you make a good point about competitiveness. Most people are so darn busy they don't have time to be creative, take proper care of themselves or live up to their potential. As a result I think this generation will waste many talented people because they just don't have time to try and figure them out! Mensa provides more shelter than the general public but you still have to go back to your life afterwards... Not all humans are created equal in any single category but every person has something to contribute to society and this is why diversity is good for the species overall. I think "race" was mistakenly substituted for "species" to which all of us belong (whether we want to admit it or not). You can't choose your family but you can choose who will offer you the best performance in any given endeavor and clearly, boundaries apply here!



reply posted on 8-4-2007 @ 09:57 PM by Frontkjemper
Ok, I'm gonna throw in my thoughts here.

I'm a trekkie. (It's died down a bit though ) I always thought if there was aliens out there, they'd have some kind of
Prime Directive going on. Maybe they are not allowed to interfere with us? Perhaps there is a large coalition (much like the United Federation of Planets) of aliens who go do their thing?

And I'm sure, that if aliens do exist (which I do believe) then there probably are the good and the bad. Perhaps they are struggling to protect us from those aliens that want to do harm? (I'm only guessing.)

But that's my thoughts on the subject. I'm sure there are good and bad out there. Let's just hope the good ones have the most powerful ships


reply posted on 9-4-2007 @ 09:17 PM by Badge01
You have to look back on the evolution of the sub-culture of alien believers and 'contactees'.

This started in the 50s and they gathered at a place called 'Big Rock'.

www.amazon.com...

From there we got the Betty & Barney incident and it moved on from there burgeoning again with Whitley's 'Communion'.

Thus, we derived the 'I want to believe' concept. We -want- to believe in a higher power, or Alien savious.

To look at the Nazca lines the Olmecs and the pyramids around the world, it certainly is compelling that we have been 'seeded' or visited in the past.

But there's a big jump between what's plausible and what actually happened.

I think the best way to look at it is to keep an open mind and look at what intrigues you (Sitchen's stuff is also interesting). One good way to channel this is to let it drive you to reading and learning about past cultures, such as the Sumerians and the early Egyptians, the Celts and the early Amerindian cultures, especially the Olmecs:

en.wikipedia.org...

That way you can use this stuff to impel you to grow and learn about the world around you and not get caught up in one aspect or to sit there hoping the 'Space Brothers' will save you or save the world.

I find that more positive way to deal with all this, rather than going all 'science fiction' and to start believing in Omicron and Nudnicron, extraterrestrials from Venus.

(Pittsburghians will remember:
cordic-and-co.com...

www.regecordic.com...
...)
2 cents...


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