An Inconvenient Truth ON Al Gore: The Google A.I. Conspiracy

"Tyrannical system bent on Global domination"

There, give me proof, and i dont want forum threads and blogs. I want real proof.

Tack on teh terrormongering that leads right to the same thing as GWB's terrormongering, and you'll remain in my scopes under close scrutiny.

But the thing is that Gore's 'terrormongering' is justified. George Bush's isnt. Fear of the scary scary terrorists is nothing. A terrorist is a symbol denoting foreign humans from the middle east. Thats just racism.

Gore is giving a sense of fear about a threat, not just global warming, but global catastrophes due to human negligence in protecting our environment.

He's terrormongering everyone who will listen

EVERYONE IN THE US DOES THAT. i have never seen a US broadcast that didnt centre around a fear of some kind.

like any CIA torture specialist would know

or any parent who knows about what fairytales are.

Just like how millions yearn for the government to be all powerful to protect them from the evil terrorists.

but your not prepared to accept a truth that is presented in front of you, you also dont want to accept any limitations on your freedom. This is, of course, impossible.

I'm not even going to comment on your autocratic views on controlling populations.

Theres nothing wrong with being an Autocrat. a good person at the head of a good system will get good results.

I'm not even going to comment on your autocratic views on controlling populations.

why not?

You're so unbiased and rational that you can't prevent yourself from direct ad hominem attacks on me, the messenger. If I were to lower myself to your level I'd be quoting your nasty words, for starters.

I think you were trying to say IRrational.

You can quote my nasty words and blubber or you can take it like a man. Im sick to death of some of the people here and its only my third day posting.

You may enjoy being treated like a child and being told to 'open your eyes' in every post, but i actually have maturity and i see the bigger picture. The one you dont seem to grasp.

All i can gather from what your saying is that you hate your government, you want something better, something with abit more freedom than now (if that was even possible).

Al Gore is using exactly the same tactics as Tiberius Gracchus did in ancient Rome.

Tiberius Gracchus- tried to enact a law to stop noblemen having monopolies on land. Was stopped by the Senate. Avoided the senate and put his laws directly to the people so popular demand would force the senate to bend to his demands

Al Gore- Tried to run for president to enact global protection (as in protecting the earth from us) and other laws (such as AI, according to you). Was stopped by a shady vote. Avoiding the government he now puts his beliefs directly to the people so popular demand would force the government to take action.

See the parrallels? He is a smart man and knows where the power really resides. Unfortunatly though, the same thing is happening. Tiberius and Gore's followers both began to resort to strife and violence forcing the government to impose restrictions on them, causing more strife.

The problem in both these scenarios lay with the Government in question, and the people who were roaring for a fight.

This is another reason why i dont blame Gore for some of the results. But you can see that he has had a positive effect on the world. Every day i see things in Australia. We arent even a very big contributer to CO2 emmissions, but we are trying our hardest to squeeze away every drop of CO2 we emit.

dont blame the messenger (Gore) just because ou want to blame someone.

Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
"Tyrannical system bent on Global domination"

There, give me proof, and i dont want forum threads and blogs. I want real proof.

Read my 2 ATS Email Specials, check the sources, and then watch this film (constructed from US Gov/Mil sources except the music/audio), and check it's sources:
blog.myspace.com...

Please do try to debate my facts and conclusions...

But the thing is that Gore's 'terrormongering' is justified.

How is it justified? How is terrorizing the public with hyped-up theorization based on generalizations to induce a god-on-earth system justified? How much have global average temps increased over the past 30 years?

George Bush's isnt. Fear of the scary scary terrorists is nothing. A terrorist is a symbol denoting foreign humans from the middle east. Thats just racism.

Correction, it's domination aka imperialism. Racism comes into play with the dehumanization part that justifies it in the peoples eyes that is. They dominate their same-race countrymen, therefore racism isn't the trigger, imperialistic behavoir is.

Gore is giving a sense of fear about a threat, not just global warming, but global catastrophes due to human negligence in protecting our environment.

A "sense". A subjective "sense" of a potential threat, that he actually refers to as an absolute fact, meanwhile he builds the "solution" to the human problem that ultimately according to him and his solutions is unstoppable. Some people refer to "Global Warming" as a religion, I've clearly demonstrated that it has a coming "god", a literal messiah, and you defend it and its prophet to the core.

He's terrormongering everyone who will listen

EVERYONE IN THE US DOES THAT. i have never seen a US broadcast that didnt centre around a fear of some kind.

en.wikipedia.org...

but your not prepared to accept a truth that is presented in front of you,

What "truth" would that be? I've challenged the manmade doomsday theory on numerous fronts now and you havent repelled a single concept of science. This is all spin and rhetoric, like any great 'orator'.

Be sure to question that concept on your own view there.

you also dont want to accept any limitations on your freedom.

You got me!!!

This is, of course, impossible.

With that kind of attitude you're absolutely correct.Be sure to apply that to your own global ambitions.

Theres nothing wrong with being an Autocrat. a good person at the head of a good system will get good results.

You say this after your last comments? You didn't even see what you were walking into.

I'm not even going to comment on your autocratic views on controlling populations.

why not?

You're so unbiased and rational that you can't prevent yourself from direct ad hominem attacks on me, the messenger. If I were to lower myself to your level I'd be quoting your nasty words, for starters.

I think you were trying to say IRrational.

Dig. No proof reading can be problematic.

You can quote my nasty words and blubber or you can take it like a man.

I didn't. This is childish. I wont even read the rest of your Red Herring reality until you get into discussion of the actual topic, instead of your afffection and radical fascination with Al Gore.


[edit on 21-7-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

Well ill end this right now.

How bout we listen to you and believe what you say blindly.

Now, Thanks to you we can stop wasting money on Global projects, saving the environment and all that toss. We can continue to use oil and other non renewable resources to power our 17 wheel trucks with in built air conditioners and laser cannons.

We can not make any more GLOBAL treaties which may begin the path towards global recognition of the threat we pose to our environment and the possiblities of mutual aid.

Thanks, youve made the world a better place.

This is how Gore is justified. If you want to keep it the way it is you can get the hell off my planet. I want it to last.

So you admit that Al Gore might be wrong even though he claims that he's absolutely 110% no if and or buts right fo sho, and that even if he's wrong it's completely ok for him to use the "by far the most terrifying film you will ever see" "less than 10 years till the point of no return" terrormongering tactics to initiate global taxes and an artificial intelligence "god on earth" system to "save us" from a doomsday event that might not even be real... just to ensure that people care about the environment??

You're saying that even if he is cherry picking data and misrepresenting other data to make his case, it's all a-ok because people need to care about the environment? You're saying that it's ok for him to use junk science as long as people care about the environment when it's all said and done?

Where's his film about actual pollution? You know all that nasty manmade chemical sludges being dumped into everywhere. Where's his film on that stuff... why is it just about CO2, a compound hardly past the element level, meanwhile he doesn't mention a whole lot about chemicals that have half-lifes of thousands of years and pose 'permanent' threats to the health of all life?

Where's his film about the Depleted Uranium that the US military uses in all conflicts, including Clinton-Gore's engineered Bosnia-Kosovo-Yugoslavia sectarian civil wars where the US used DU rounds and now people are getting cancer and birth defects?
You know, DU, that nuclear stuff with a 4.5 billion year halflife. Why isnt he slamming Bush for using unprecidented amounts of it in Iraq 2? I'm almost thru his Assault on Reason (Assault on Bush really), and no mention so far. What gives?

Where have I said that we shouldn't care about the planet? Didn't you notice the numerous times I mentioned how his solutions aren't even up to actually save us from his assertions, but that there are infact ways to get us off carbon energy enslavement for good?


Or does it not matter if I actually have the real solutions, because how dare I criticize the doomsday prophet of "Global Warming"?

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[edit on 21-7-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

[edit on 21-7-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

Ah, but then your not listening to what im saying.

If you will notice, i have said this many times in many of your posts, that although Gore talks about CO2, his body language and modes of speech show something completly different.

Its saying "We can reduce CO2, its a start"

oh, and your entire last post i cant take seriously anymore, because you said 'fo sho'.

Yes, i admit that he could be wrong, i admit you could be wrong. Ive done enough archaology to know that no matter how much evidence you find there is always something there to completely destroy and remake a perspective.

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Where is his film about actual pollution? the real question is does he need to make one?

99% of the world is working to reduce not just CO2 emmissions, but other kinds of pollution aswell. This is because The Inconvenient truth, combined with other presentations, movies, etc, has opened peoples eyes to the damage they are wreaking on the earths environment.

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You just dont get it do you? Why would Gore need to 'slam' Bush. Perhaps he will use, you know, diplomacy? tact? its not that hard. You can see it now, the increase in the Earth Movement has turned many people against their governments to demand them to do something.

Popular support is the strongest thing in diplomacy. You dont need to follow the entire government process if you can get the mob to back you.

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anyway, not all chemicals with huge half lives are bad. If i didnt have Carbon-14 then i couldnt find out how old a once living piece of tissue or plant matter is, could i?

Where is the harm? Not all chemicals are dangerous

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You may have the real solutions, but consider.

Youve put them on the internet on a conspiracy theory forum.

Gore made a presentation and movie and showed it to the world as a whole.

The film is called "the most terrifying film you will ever see"

its right, i love horror and thriller pics, but seriously? Nothing scared me more than seeing the photos of then and now in contrast.

Americans have this thing against conforming, even when its a good idea. It pisses me off so much.

Originally posted by Octavius Maximus
If you will notice, i have said this many times in many of your posts, that although Gore talks about CO2, his body language and modes of speech show something completly different.

Body language? He throws soundbytes about "pollution" around, sure, but what is his film about? What is his AIT book about? Why is the chapter in AOR called "The Carbon Crisis" instead of "the pollution crisis"? Why wasnt there streams of footage of mass sludge being pumped into rivers, while it was all focused on CLIMATE issues? It's because "pollution" isn't equated with DOOMSDAY. Now think back to Bush & Bliar parroting the claim that Al Qaeda had obtained 20 suitcase nukes (and then how they've left the US/Mexico border wide open).

Its saying "We can reduce CO2, its a start"

No, it's saying we have less than 10 years until the point of no return, and the solution is for YOU to change your life (while his house is 18X the national average on energy consumption and he flies several dozen times per year in the infoage when he could be live broadcasting from his house... that is already consuming all of that enrgy anyways).

oh, and your entire last post i cant take seriously anymore, because you said 'fo sho'.

I used exagerrated emphasis to emulate his motif, but it's only ok when he does it.

Yes, i admit that he could be wrong, i admit you could be wrong.

Well, honestly, unlike basically any issue you can find at this site for example, there's really no debate whatsoever about DARPA/NASA/Google's military industrial complex Artificial Intelligence ambitions, and Al Gore being a centralized figure in the entire thing. There's no debate that Gore is 'hawg wild' about saving the earth from impending doom. Whether or not he realizes that he could be a touch overboard with it, I can't say. It's hard to say he's too stupid to realize the reality behind the things I mentioned in tonights other thread between us, but after stufying this man it's very hard to cut him that short. I could be wrong about how truly sinister this man really is, but reason, in light of these inconvenient truths i've been chronicaling, seems to dictate that this is one sick puppy like the rest of them down in DC. Be sure to read my "American Hegemony" email special, that is the US system and he sure seems to do quite well in it. Do you belive he's too stupid to understand what it is?

Ive done enough archaology to know that no matter how much evidence you find there is always something there to completely destroy and remake a perspective.

Many call me "IIB". Nice to meet you.

99% of the world is working to reduce not just CO2 emmissions, but other kinds of pollution aswell. This is because The Inconvenient truth, combined with other presentations, movies, etc, has opened peoples eyes to the damage they are wreaking on the earths environment.

In his all-out intellectual destruction of the Bush Administration in AOR, he didn't mention DU. Look into DU. This revelation with Al Gore is mindblowing.

You just dont get it do you? Why would Gore need to 'slam' Bush.

Read Gore's AOR. It's an all out Bush meltdown. Despite my criticism of Gore, I actually recommend people read AOR and not just to see his hypocrisy for themselves, but to see one great summary of the monster Bush-Cheney actually are. His Bush coverage would make even many 9/11 proud, however, it's all partisan politics designed to cause wedges and probably to launch a prime presidential election campaign to take the helm of the greatest (public) powerseat man had ever known.

You can see it now, the increase in the Earth Movement has turned many people against their governments to demand them to do something.

Does it get the worlds people off of energy slavery? Will it end the neverending struggle (wars and domination) to get energy? Not quite. Instead it causes doomsday anxieties to go with all of the other ones spinning the propaganda sphere. You might note that in neither AIT or AOR does he lay down the solutions (besides YOU changing YOUR life) to the tota l WAR/G.W. Problem.

anyway, not all chemicals with huge half lives are bad. If i didnt have Carbon-14 then i couldnt find out how old a once living piece of tissue or plant matter is, could i?

Manmade chemicals that never or rarely occur in nature are what i'm talking about.

You may have the real solutions, but consider.
Youve put them on the internet on a conspiracy theory forum.
Gore made a presentation and movie and showed it to the world as a whole.
The film is called "the most terrifying film you will ever see"

I put them wherever i can. I like this place. I make videos. I'm currently working on one that covers both GWB & Gore's etc and everything i'm talking about across these threads and then some. I appreciate the practice from our engagement... it's helped me hone in on a few more levels of Gore hypocrisy.

its right, i love horror and thriller pics,

Then check this:
www.myspace.com...

but seriously? Nothing scared me more than seeing the photos of then and now in contrast.

Watch "The Corporation", and see huge drainpipes dumping endless sludge into rivers. Then dig into how many glaicers exist on planet earth and then how many have actually been studied for efffects of "Global Warming".

Americans have a thing against conforming

If you lived here you wouldn't be saying that!

[edit on 22-7-2007 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss]

As a start, could you do me a favour soon? Go rewatch an Inconvenient truth. I watched it again today, you'll notice that most of the times when he refers to global warming he calls it "Global Warming pollution" not CO2.

Body language? He throws soundbytes about "pollution" around, sure, but what is his film about?

Its about 'opening our eyes' to many things. Firstly, the damage we do to those around us. Secondly, how although our perception of the changes we make show it to be a slow phenomenon, in the history of the world we are destroying it in record time. Thirdy, that human beings need to feel the consequences before reacting to a threat.

No, it's saying we have less than 10 years until the point of no return, and the solution is for YOU to change your life

Ive already changed mine, and Australia contributes only 1.1% of the worlds global warming pollution. How about you?

I could be wrong about how truly sinister this man really is, but reason, in light of these inconvenient truths i've been chronicaling, seems to dictate that this is one sick puppy like the rest of them down in DC.

I think it may be paranoia. Consider the stories of people who do things for the aid of those around them and are rewarded. Gore could be doing these things completly selflessly. I doubt that to be true, but you just need to keep in mind that although something may appear a certain way, it isnt so.

In his all-out intellectual destruction of the Bush Administration in AOR, he didn't mention DU. Look into DU. This revelation with Al Gore is mindblowing.

Abbreviations make Octavius cry.

His Bush coverage would make even many 9/11 proud, however, it's all partisan politics designed to cause wedges and probably to launch a prime presidential election campaign to take the helm of the greatest (public) powerseat man had ever known.

Could also be anger at the man who usurped his presidential victory and then didnt follow through on his pledges to help the environment.

Does it get the worlds people off of energy slavery? Will it end the neverending struggle (wars and domination) to get energy? Not quite.

What do you mean by Energy slavery? while humans keep moving forward we will be 'slaves' to energy. By that i mean that we will rely on energy. What the scientific community which is pro conservation is doing is trying to move the world onto new technologies and off the old ones.

Gores formula.

Old Technologies+old thinking=Predictable consequences
Old Technologies+new thinking= uncertain consequences.

Manmade chemicals that never or rarely occur in nature are what i'm talking about.

They need to serve a purpose and the consequences of their use must be analyzed and then weighed up against the pros.

I put them wherever i can. I like this place. I make videos.

The Media is the massage. People respond to certain types of Media in certain ways. Once beyond High School internet sources and videos are rarely trusted. Gore has the money and the ability to create this movie and market it. You cannot deny that a movie is by far a more effective mode of conveying this message?

Then dig into how many glaicers exist on planet earth and then how many have actually been studied for efffects of "Global Warming".

The thing is though, im not concerned with Global Warming, alone. Seeing the photos Gore has in the inconvenient Truth shows me that there is something wrong with the world today, pollution is the problem. We need to solve it quickly.

If you lived here you wouldn't be saying that!

Ah i mean the US doesnt like to conform with the world, even on good ideas. Its annoying because it makes American puppet states follow the US's lead. Ie. Australia not signing Kyoto. Even if we dont do that much pollution, we could at least sign on to help.

I wonder if the AI would just become enlightened and then only answer us like a monk with more questions.
its such a strange subject to think about.

excellent thread!

Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
It seems that Gore's weather hobby projects always seem to go hand in hand with his supercomputing and artificial intelligence hobby kits. Before NASA and Google had announced this 'merger', Gore's darling, NASA had already been well underway in their "Intelligent Archives" (IA) project.

I promise I will read this full thread in detail, Bliss. But in case nobody made this observation, I just wanted to be the first to say, below:

Everything you dismissed about Al Gore in the OP actually makes me think this is one VERY SHARP AND COOL GUY! He is exactly the kind of person that (as an engineer) I personally would really like to run things. The more I learn about Gore, the more impressed I actually am. Why isn't this guy our president?

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I will comment later after reading the rest of the posts (if there is anything I can contribute further.)

Despite my total disagreement with your OP, your premise, and your dismissive tone, it is really well written. Flagged and Starred! (Your first star I see for this particular thread, strangely enough.)

[edit on 29-2-2008 by Buck Division]

holey moley, thought i was special in coming up with the idea a few years ago that an AI who can acess our computer networks will self improve indefinitly!,oh well!.

the question must be asked,what happens when our networks are linked with other species networks?,is there a god internet where many many advanced civs pool themselves together into one huge behemoth!?.my god,we are more primitive than i ever imagined!

what happens with a million years of self improvement of a multi species network!?,think about it,what couldnt it do!?,it would have the ability to control large parts of the universe,at some point to create its own universe and maintain everysingle atom as it chooses!!!.

it must stand to reason such multispecies networks exist,and it must stand to reason it is not hostile or we wouldnt be alive,it would have no reason to be hostile,it could create and do anything it wanted.it would also stand to reason in any past universe such a network would exist and evolve to control the whole universe.

interesting times,interesting times!.

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IIB's threads deserve another look.
It's been too long.

This popped up while using the Google. BUMP!