What Melted Cars 7 Blocks Away From WTC, page 9

Originally posted by LaBTop

But why, in the first photo with the leafless tree, is ALL the paper on the street NOT burning, but ONLY the cars?

If the cars were ignited by burning debris, the laws of statistic impossibilities would be on my side, and there would be spots of burning paper, or burned OUT paper laying around.
I do not know of burning debris with a deliberate mind, wanting to solely ignite cars, but no paper.

And again, try it yourself, you can't ignite a car with burning paper lightly strewn under it or beside it.
The flames will go out, and the car will not burn.

PS: of course the tree in the foreground could have been a dead tree.
But I have great doubt on that, we are talking about the most expensive district on earth, Manhattan, where every shop owner will phone the authorities immediately, when "his" tree is dead, and his neighbour one is vividly alive.

It's pretty odd. Although there are things that bother me more in the photos.

One, the paper will take some time to fall down compared to any burning fuel. So, I could sort of see how it could light off the cars, burn off the concrete, and then the paper fall unscathed. It doesn't seem likely, but it's possible.

However, there are things that don't fit. If the tree was green, anything that burned off the leaves would probably light at least some limbs on fire, and I don't see them smoking. Also, I'm seeing in some of the photos that there are unscathed (and unburned) cars next to ones that burned. Like the cop car with the other one behind it.

I don't attribute this to any sort of death ray/laser/particle beam/EMP either, because the radios weren't damaged, and Wall Streeters weren't jumping out of buildings when their computers all fried. Not to mention the legions of people fairly close to the buildings that video taped it, on MAG TAPE. That wouldn't have survived. So I think the EMP thing is dead. As for the tree, given a pulse big enough to fry it, you'd have had to hit it so hard the leaves would boil, even then they probably wouldn't fall off (I don't see any on the ground?) and the trunk/limbs would probably crack open and be steaming. I don't know of any way to just remove ALL the leaves and leave the small limbs intact.

Again, the cop car, it's burning but not the one behind it. Any sort of "death ray" would have been much less discriminating, IMO, and probably would have been more Gaussian, you'd see black, french fried, fried, toasted, scorched, warped, ok as you went out from the center. Not fried here, skip, fried there. The tree would have burned. In the cop car pic, in the background are lush green trees with all their leaves intact, right across the street to the right. Also, and I can't see the pics as I type this, dammit, aren't some of the flamers up under an overhang like a parking garage sort of thing?

Can't tell from the tree with paper pic, is it some small leaved tree and the leaves are covered in ash/concrete crap? Maybe it was green up under the funk.

Again, is it possible the cars that burned were running when the funk cloud went through? Maybe they just caught on fire when the engines got eroded out from the dust. Cops tend to leave their cars running, maybe some of these guys left the cars running and ran for it. I'd expect the radiators to clog, the cars to overheat, keep running with no water and maybe burn. All it takes is to get hot enough to melt a fuel line. That would explain the numbers of them burned up front but not in back.

Edit: The tree's just dead. Look to the right of the toilet paper tree..there are two other trees just like it with all the leaves on.

[edit on 28-3-2007 by Tom Bedlam]