With the release of a third letter, the Iranians have certainly over-played their hand.

Originally posted by Monkfish

If it comes to a war with Iran, you can expect to see an uprising of muslims, particularly in the UK as they are now no longer a minority.

It's all very worrying.

If it comes to war between the UK and Iran, do you really think the UK public will sit back and let (dont even know why your including muslims!!!) Irainian National to uprise in this country? There is no way in hell will they get away with it, if you think the racial attacks are bad right now, it will be ten times worse if it does come to war....

Frankly I dont see how we can be help justified for actions of another country, also I would like americans to stop hijajking this thread if at all possible.

Isnt just americans who are doing this Wasp, but Im like you gettin kinda sick of asking members to stick to the thread topic and stop straying off it.... It just causes emotions to run high, and it is not need at all....

Most of the US members are sympathetic from what I have seen on the threads anyways.....

So guys n gals come on, lets try and stick to the topic pls thanks

Omg did you all see, the footage of that marine, confessing on Iranian TV, wth!!!!! Iran is definately pushing thier luck now.....

Also this third letter, obviously she is being coerced into written these letters...

Thanks for the link.

Ah, I guess I took the word "sacraficed" a little too literal...like she was going to be 'sacraficed' due to the policies of the British and US governments etc.

Still though, the way this is heading it looks almost inevitable that there will be war.

So,

you are using an internet blogger to prove your point now?

Originally posted by Souljah
If the U.K. government admits they were breaing Iranian territoral waters I bet that those marines would be hours away from home.

But if you have come out, with GPS data, proved your point on international stage you wouldn't suddenly cave in. Thats the problem.

Plus the UK was willing to admit to a mistake, before the troops appeared on TV.

[edit on 2-4-2007 by infinite]

Originally posted by infinite
But if you have come out, with GPS data, proved your point on international stage you wouldn't suddenly cave in. Thats the problem.

Excuse me, but how can you have GPS date of the border, when this border was actually NEVER agreed by the two countries - Iran and Iraq - on the water boundary inthe Northern Gulf? How come that the MoD suddenly know where that lines is, when the two countries (which actually have this border between them) do not know where it is? Does the MoD have a certain magic wand? I am puzzled somehow over this, that is all.

There is no agreed boundary in the Northern Gulf, either between Iran and Iraq or between Iraq and Kuwait. The Iran-Iraq border has been agreed inside the Shatt al-Arab waterway, because there it is also the land border. But that agreement does not extend beyond the low tide line of the coast.

Even that very limited agreement is arguably no longer in force. Since it was reached in 1975, a war has been fought over it, and ten-year reviews - necessary because waters and sandbanks in this region move about dramatically - have never been carried out.

Originally posted by Souljah

Originally posted by infinite
But if you have come out, with GPS data, proved your point on international stage you wouldn't suddenly cave in. Thats the problem.

Excuse me, but how can you have GPS date of the border, when this border was actually NEVER agreed by the two countries - Iran and Iraq - on the water boundary inthe Northern Gulf? How come that the MoD suddenly know where that lines is, when the two countries (which actually have this border between them) do not know where it is? Does the MoD have a certain magic wand? I am puzzled somehow over this, that is all.

There is no agreed boundary in the Northern Gulf, either between Iran and Iraq or between Iraq and Kuwait. The Iran-Iraq border has been agreed inside the Shatt al-Arab waterway, because there it is also the land border. But that agreement does not extend beyond the low tide line of the coast.

Even that very limited agreement is arguably no longer in force. Since it was reached in 1975, a war has been fought over it, and ten-year reviews - necessary because waters and sandbanks in this region move about dramatically - have never been carried out.

Good grief. The Iranians also had the same border outlined on their little map.

Originally posted by markjaxson
What did they expect?

If any Iranians started trawling around the US's or UK's territories then im sure the US and UK would do exactly the same!

They have every right to question these people!

The same goes for every other country in the world.

Whats wrong with you people.

true enough.

the thing i can't understand (and i have done my time on ships) is what the hell were they doing soo far away from their base of operations if they were only conducting a routine boarding? if they ran into trouble, where was their backup? they could be very easily mistaken for pirates. they had to be doing something other than routine boardings to be out there alone soo far from base.

their conduct when challenged probably contributed to the lack of hard core torture when they were detained

I'm very glad that the British troops have been released.

[edit on 4/7/2007 by TheAvenger]