Attention John Lear!

Hello John,

I’m a newbie who has had this site bookmarked for several years but just now began really exploring it. I have a lot to read and learn. One thing you posted in your “Who is John Lear” post caught my eye: “In 1978 my Dad passed away and left me with one dollar, which incidentally, I never got.” I can relate to how that must have made you feel.

With all the flying you’ve done all over the world there is little doubt you have taken off and landed on runways built by my uncle. His Washington, DC construction company specialized in air strips, and he built them all over the world – especially for the DoD.

He took his fortune and invested it so well he actually made a lot more money after he retired than he made while working, and passed away quite wealthy in 1996. His estate was split into thirds, and I was supposed to get one share upon the death of his adopted daughter. Problem was, she waited her whole life for that money, and when she learned she had terminal cancer just a year after finally getting her inheritance, she became so bitter she changed her estate and cut me virtually out. I was more fortunate than you in that she left me $10K (instead of many millions), but like you I have never seen it. Lawyers are fine people.... NOT!

Just wanted to know you have a soul mate out there who enjoys your posts and looks forward to reading them for a long time to come. I've worked on a mega Air Force base in NW Florida my entire career, but we don't have any big secrets here (as far as I know). Peace be with you!

Great resume but why did you leave out your involvement or knowledge of UFOs?

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[edit on 4/8/2007 by benevolent tyrant]

Originally posted by surf911
Great resume but why did you leave out your involvement or knowledge of UFOs?

That resume was originally written for a pilots organization I belong to called "QB's" or Quiet Birdmen. It is an organization of pilots that get together once a month. Each month one pilot in the group gives a summary of his career and he has a limit of 15 minutes because pilots tend to go on and on and on when talking about themselves. What you read took exactly 15 minutes.

UFO's had nothing to do with, or any bearing on my aviation career so I didn't see any point in squeezing that part in.

Very few pilots are interested in UFO's and if they are they rarely discuss it with other pilots.

Originally posted by johnlear Very few pilots are interested in UFO's and if they are they rarely discuss it with other pilots.

And for good reason too, as we see with the O'Hare sighting. No one gets out alive!

Or RIPs, whatever the case may be. It is taboo.

John Lear is still alive! I can't believe it.

Yup, we are sure lucky to have him. If I had a penny for every late one I knew or discovered that was working on some breakthrough project my jar would be full now.

Maybe they just don't get the notoriety until after they have left us, you know, like artists, but finding a live one sure is a treat! Whatever he is doing is right.

Originally posted by Matyas
Yup, we are sure lucky to have him. If I had a penny for every late one I knew or discovered that was working on some breakthrough project my jar would be full now.

Maybe they just don't get the notoriety until after they have left us, you know, like artists, but finding a live one sure is a treat! Whatever he is doing is right.

Lucky to have him?

John Lear dosen't have the "right stuff".

Oh my God John! Did you actually write this off the top of your head and your memory or do you totally document everything? I have to tell you you "are" the brightest neon crayon in this box. That story was incredible and exciting to read. At times I rolled in laughter and at other times I cringed at what would happen next, and then several times I just wanted to wrap you in my heart and just love you deeply. Which leads me to my question for you, what about love and the women that you have enjoyed? You are a remarkable being John and with that much energy you must have had some of the worlds most beautiful and dynamic women. What was it that you needed in your wife and how do you relate with your children and grandchildren after your Father? I share your pain John and understand fully how it must have felt to grow up loving life so fully with no real need for money. But then to be disinherited was a blow you never expected. I am sure you could have made bookoo's had you known or cared to be more financially secure. I am glad to hear that it has only strengtened your total being. There is a very good chance that you have consumed so much energy in this life that there will not be a container big enough to hold your gigantic developing soul.

Originally posted by antar
Oh my God John! Did you actually write this off the top of your head and your memory or do you totally document everything?

Everything that you read can be documented with my logbooks and/or voluminous files of receipts, airline tickets or other documentation.

I have to tell you you "are" the brightest neon crayon in this box. That story was incredible and exciting to read. At times I rolled in laughter and at other times I cringed at what would happen next, and then several times I just wanted to wrap you in my heart and just love you deeply. Which leads me to my question for you, what about love and the women that you have enjoyed? You are a remarkable being John and with that much energy you must have had some of the worlds most beautiful and dynamic women.

There were only 2. My first wife, who I met in France, gave me my first 2 girls, Moya and Jill. We were married 5 years and she then married Adam West (Batman) and are still married. I then married Marilee Higginbotham in 1971 we have been married 36 years) and she gave me 2 more girls, Allison and Jacqueline. Marilee lit my fuse. She went everywhere in the world with me and made everyplace we went 'home'. When we lived in Vientianne Laos one day I took her in one of the airplanes and flew her up to the front lines to show her the action. (No, I didn't put her in any danger). She was a very gutsy woman. I believe she and I made 35 household moves during my career. She was always there and rarely complained. She is a former actress with MGM studios and now is a casting director (C.S.A.) and casts most major movies made in Vegas. She did most of the casting for "Casino".

What was it that you needed in your wife and how do you relate with your children and grandchildren after your Father?

She was the master of diplomacy to my utter lack of tact. All of my children are a great source of pride. They have all excelled in life and we all get together often and laugh and joke around about the crazy things that happened when they were growing up. Alli and Jax spent a year in Cairo and were both fluent in Arabic. Alli was 3 when we lived in Beirut at the beginning of the civil war in 1975. I had a penthouse apartment in the Hamra district. There was no service of any kind during the war and all of the garbage was put by the curb and then lit. At night before bed Alli would ask me "See fire Daddy, see fire" I would hold her up to the balcony so she could see the miles of burning garbage throughout Beirut. Allison and Jacqueline live with their husbands here in Las Vegas.

I share your pain John and understand fully how it must have felt to grow up loving life so fully with no real need for money.

On the contrary it was always a scramble and still is for money. My Mom left a huge estate of which I got a portion. Unfortunately her trusted attorneys and accountants ripped off most of it. All I actually wanted from her estate was a limited edition set of the Lewis and Clark Journals she had. The trustee of the estate gave that to a friend of his and told me to take a hike.

But then to be disinherited was a blow you never expected.

On the contrary my father spent most of any conversation we ever had, and in most every letter he ever wrote to me telling me how I was never going to get anything from his estate. It was no surprise to me. As a matter of fact when he passed away all my pilot friends at Van Nuys airport had a party for me at the Skytrails bar where we all used to meet. It was called the "Paupers Party". My fathers will was read where he specifically excluded me at least 25 times and everybody brought a gift. I got a six pack of dog food, a pack of personalized brown paper bags, a roll of 50 pennies, stuff like that.

I am sure you could have made bookoo's had you known or cared to be more financially secure. I am glad to hear that it has only strengtened your total being.

On the contrary I never made nor was I ever capable of making any money (other than working as a pilot). The ability to 'turn a buck' has always eluded me.

There is a very good chance that you have consumed so much energy in this life that there will not be a container big enough to hold your gigantic developing soul.

Thanks Antar. I needed that.

Thankyou John, I feel a kindered spirit with you and your's. And you are welcome. E-me anytime. Antar

Originally posted by Cobra1982John Lear dosen't have the "right stuff".

I beg to differ.

He found a crack in the Wall of Lies that we have been forced to live under the shadow of for so many decades.

Then he rammed a prybar into it, and without fear of offending tender sensibilities drove it deeper with a sledgehammer. Then he used his leverage to further force it open much to the consternation of all who accepted the Wall as their reality.

And the Universe poured forth, in all its splendor, bringing mankind closer to the mysteries of life and the wonders of Nature.

His portion is not a seat among men, but among the stars, for there is his calling and completion of his work.

Originally posted by Matyas

His portion is not a seat among men, but among the stars, for there is his calling and completion of his work.

Pretty heady stuff there. Go easy on the man.

Originally posted by undo Pretty heady stuff there. Go easy on the man.

Yeah, but that comment was stuck in my craw a long time, so I went ahead and said what I had to say. No one else was saying it, so I thought, "hell, I'll just pull out all the stops, and the worst that can come from it is I don't get that speech writing position".

I think John will take it right, with a pinch of salt that is. Can't speak for the opposition though, their style doesn't wax poetic. So let 'em rile and spit, we are already through the looking glass.

Originally posted by Matyas
His portion is not a seat among men, but among the stars, for there is his calling and completion of his work.

Congratulations! You are the kind of devoted disciple that every cult leader dreams of!

Regards
yf

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Originally posted by yfxxx

Congratulations! You are the kind of devoted disciple that every cult leader dreams of!

And congratulations to you yfxxx. You play an important part here in presenting 'mainstream' science. Its an honor and privilege to have someone with your knowledge 'grounding' the discussion.

You offer a 'lifeline', a 'security blanket' if you will, for those not ready to accept that the moon is full of life and wonders beyond imagination. Or as Neil Armstrong said, "There are places to go beyond belief for those who can remove one of truth's protective layers." (The White House, remarks by Neil Armstrong, July 20, 1994, 25th Anniversary of Apollo 11 landing on the moon.)

that Neil Armstrong quote is pretty profound. I have often wondered if they were "saying it without saying it", or if the ambiguity of their speech was unintentional and totaly due to the interpretation?

John, i don't mean to pry. But you mention your fathers passing and the apparent negativity that he had towards you. For what reason?

I mean nothing negative, nor do i mean any insult. Just curiousity.

Originally posted by homeskillet
i enjoyed the read about your pilot credentials but can you go into your UFO researcher story for thos of us unfamiliar with it?

Originally posted by surf911
Great resume but why did you leave out your involvement or knowledge of UFOs?

...and "Dulce", habitable enviroment and intellegent life forms on the other planets in the solar system and "soultowers" and so on.
I think that this would be the OP's originally intended questioning, of which I am also quite interested.
But still the questions echoes empty. Where to obtain this wast knowledge that no-one else seems to give away. That you are a beyond experienced pilot is not hard to believe, but then, so are many more out there.
Please, continue telling us the story!


I hold the right to defend myself from any future flaming with this quote:

Originally posted by spines
And most importantly: Why is one member of this site requestiing his credentials considered rude and a horrible offense while questions directed towards other members is considered just fine -especially as it is usually presented in a much harsher and abusive manner to peoples other than Mr. Lear.

Okidoke?

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

that Neil Armstrong quote is pretty profound. I have often wondered if they were "saying it without saying it", or if the ambiguity of their speech was unintentional and totaly due to the interpretation?

If you have a chance to see the C-Span video of Neil during that short, 301 word, 'speech' you will see how uneasy he was. He was tactfully 'letting the cat out of the bag' and he had reason to be nervous. The personal threats against the Apollo crews were shameful but, apparently for some, necessary to preserve 'the secret'.

John, i don't mean to pry. But you mention your fathers passing and the apparent negativity that he had towards you. For what reason?

I wasn't the brightest crayon in the box. I was extremely lazy. I had a smart mouth. And a real poor friggin' attitude.

I don't know about how bright your crayon is, but you don't seem to be an idiot, either.

So, where did it all change? Are you just being humble, or are you being truthful?

I was a "bad" child, up until i was about 25 (34 now). Then, my mother always worried about me. Now, she relies on me and states that I have gone beyond making her proud.

My father was similar, though. He didn't care much for me. that is why my stepdad is who i called "dad". He may not have cared for me, either...but his love for my mother made him tolerate me at the least.

Was there a point of change for you? Surely the man that we have today cannot be the same man you describe with being dimwitted and smart mouted...i have yet to see that side of you.

Originally posted by yfxxx Congratulations! You are the kind of devoted disciple that every cult leader dreams of!

Regards
yf

See? There ya go, its the best they can do.

A thanks to the mods for letting it stay here for our edification.