France releases UFO files

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posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 09:47 AM
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Plans by the French National Centre of Space Studies (CNES) to release France's UFO files have been discussed in another thread : "France to Release UFO Documentation in Mid February" .

I thought it worth starting a separate thread to discuss the actual files themselves. The first batch of files was made available by CNES today (Thursday 22 March 2007) at the link below:
www.cnes-geipan.fr...

[At the time of writing the link is not working (nor for the main CNES homepage) possibly because of the number of people attempting to view the files].

One of the first of the news items about this release can be found HERE.

In relation to the claim by French officials that this release is a world first, it should be noted that numerous other countries have already released a considerable number of UFO documents (including the USA, the UK, Spain and Australia).

Kind Regards,

Isaac Koi




posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 09:51 AM
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..Or perhaps the site isn't coming up so well because there being bombarded by disinformants and hackers trying to control its release..?

Ha,
/7A



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by 7Ayreon
..Or perhaps the site isn't coming up so well because there being bombarded by disinformants and hackers trying to control its release..?

Ha,
/7A


Nah, its the USA running Denial of Service Attacks on France's servers... lol

Boy, they should have know that there would be high traffic.



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 10:04 AM
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More than likely, it's a "What can we find out about post-data input..."

Seriously, though, what's with the french. I thought there stance, what with Socialist-Science and all, was in confirmation, and confirmation, alone.

Could someone tell me what they have/got?



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 10:20 AM
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Bothered,

I wish someone could tell you what they have got - but as of yet; perhaps the site isn't even up?
I don't know - perhaps they are having server problems or perhaps they are getting 50 million hits a minute. I don't think many servers can handle that - so in essence it is a world wide DOS attack - but only because people want to see what is on the site.

Lets hope they are going to be posting photos with this data... and lets hope they increase the load their servers can handle - I bet ya traffic is getting bottlenecked at some point because of the load.



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 10:20 AM
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All the news reports on the subject say that France will release 1,600 sighting reports. We'll have 1600 more to add to the tens of thousands already cataloged worldwide over the years. I was hoping for an official stance on the subject to be included in the report, or even better, some documented physical proof. But it seems as if we're just going to get more of the same of what we already have, doesn't it? We need one of the UFO's to land or hover low over a populated area in broad daylight. Now THAT would be exciting and newsworthy!



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by carewemust
All the news reports on the subject say that France will release 1,600 sighting reports. We'll have 1600 more to add to the tens of thousands already cataloged worldwide over the years. I was hoping for an official stance on the subject to be included in the report, or even better, some documented physical proof. But it seems as if we're just going to get more of the same of what we already have, doesn't it? We need one of the UFO's to land or hover low over a populated area in broad daylight. Now THAT would be exciting and newsworthy!


Yeah, it sucks doesn't it? A few days ago there was a thread about shooting one down... LOL - IMO, I am almost to that point. I mean, HOW much longer can this last? Are they that afraid we will take their power away once this becomes known?

They are not afraid of the 'panic' and religious/economic implications: THEY are afraid of us.

kroms33



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 10:27 AM
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During the 50's, there was a documentary called "The Day the Earth Stood Still". This has been revamped to suit the more adapted period as a film, because it is not as popular a notion to have.
Seriously. It's amazing what a few decades of gov't strong arming will do to popular belief.



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 10:33 AM
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Well..on the bright side, anything that elevates the public awareness and causes people to put their "thinking caps" on is positive. Even though the French govt isn't confirming the reality of aliens, this information release adds legitimacy to the subject...maybe. I suppose critics would say that France is releasing the data because there's nothing to it all, except more of the same. Time will tell.



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 10:54 AM
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CNES Mar 22/07

France on Thursday became the first country to open its official archives on unidentified flying objects (UFO), said Jacques Patenet, the head of the UFO study group at the National Centre of Space Studies (CNES).

"It's a world first," Patenet said. "It's true that in the United States you can ask for information on a case-by-case basis. But we have done the opposite by putting all the information at the disposition of the public."

The archives are available at www.cnes-geipan.fr... and currently contain 400 files, about one fourth of the approximately 1,600 UFO sightings reported in France since the 1950s.

All of the files are scheduled to be online by the end of the year, Patenet said.

"We are working on the principle that there is nothing we will not put online with one exception: protecting an individual's privacy," he noted.

The files comprise principally witness statements taken by police officers, with personal data erased.

Patenet cautioned that "ufologists will not find any scoops or unknown cases in this database."

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From what I can gather ufologists may not find all the exiting stuff released in France at least not before the end of the year or longer.

Dallas



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by bothered
During the 50's, there was a documentary called "The Day the Earth Stood Still". This has been revamped to suit the more adapted period as a film, because it is not as popular a notion to have.
Seriously. It's amazing what a few decades of gov't strong arming will do to popular belief.


Just to set the record straight: it wasn't a documentary.

imdb



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by kroms33

Boy, they should have know that there would be high traffic.


Government agencies always seem to:

(a) underestimate the interest in UFO documents and/or
(b) overestimate the ability of their computer system to meet demands placed upon it.

All the best,

Isaac



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 12:07 PM
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ever since i heard cnes was going to release these files I have had thier website saved to my favorite and have checked it pretty regular; now I can't even get to the site.



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 12:51 PM
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Whoa - I was reading the Yahoo News article about the release, and they included this photograph (supposedly part of the French UFO files) with the caption, "This 1972 photo from the US Air Force shows a space probe after a test flight in New Mexico." Whaa?? Has anyone heard of the USAF having a program like this??






posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 01:06 PM
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TODAY IS A GREAT DAY FOR UFOLOGY!!!!

news.yahoo.com...




posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by IsaacKoi
[At the time of writing the link is not working (nor for the main CNES homepage) possibly because of the number of people attempting to view the files].



Yahoo News is reporting that the CNES website "crashed host servers hours after [the French UFO document database] was unveiled due to heavy traffic" and that it "is extremely well organized and complete, even including scanned copies of police reports".

Kind Regards,

Isaac



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 01:13 PM
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I've thought for a long time that most of what we see in the skies is secret programs from our governments. This Yahoo photo seems to somewhat confirm my theory. Question is.... just how did they stumble on the idea of disc shaped craft....



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by IsaacKoi


Yahoo News is reporting that the CNES website "crashed host servers hours after [the French UFO document database] was unveiled due to heavy traffic" and that it "is extremely well organized and complete, even including scanned copies of police reports".

Kind Regards,

Isaac



Darn, looks like I was right about the DOS - it was because of us and the rest of the world trying to get access. Ohhhh well, I will have to wait for a few days... perhaps then traffic will slow...

Right now all I am getting is:

"Service Temporarily Unavailable
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later."


[edit on 3/22/2007 by kroms33]



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by on_yur_6
I've thought for a long time that most of what we see in the skies is secret programs from our governments. This Yahoo photo seems to somewhat confirm my theory. Question is.... just how did they stumble on the idea of disc shaped craft....


The craft in the image on Yahoo looks to me like some kind of space probe. I don't think it flew like a classic UFO does. Certain UFO sightings deny the laws of physics. Certain UFO sightings in my opinion are not of earthly craft.



posted on Mar, 22 2007 @ 01:30 PM
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More news reports are popping up on the Internet about this story, including:

France makes its official ufo files public

and

France opens its official UFO archives

All the best,

Isaac





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