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Originally posted by iori_komei
Well, if there were some malevolent force trying to create an authori-
tarian NAU, that would'nt exactly benefit them, as the people would
form a government/system completely opposite of what they want.
Originally posted by Johnmike
So, Iori, how exactly would the NAU benefit us Americans?
Originally posted by iori_komei
Originally posted by Johnmike
So, Iori, how exactly would the NAU benefit us Americans?
Well, before I answer this, this would have to be after Mexico was
raised up to or near our level, which is something I think has to be
done before any organization like it can be implimented.
1. Creates a much smaller, and therefore easier to patrol border.
2. Improves the economy, both through removing tariffs on good from
Mexico and Canads being removed, which would lower theprices of
some things, and by merging the American, Canadian and Mexican
economies into one.
3. Would provide many more resources, be that farm land (both food
and energy) or workers.
Originally posted by Johnmike
So basically...it wouldn't be Mexico.
You can't advocate something that is based on fantasy and fallacies.
Originally posted by Infoholic
In response to bringing the economics of Mexico up to par with the U.S., did you know that without a vote from the general American populous, the Legislative branch of our Government attempted to put through a bill that would utilize taxes paid by you and I as American citizens, to bring Mexico up to the terms you speak of?
Originally posted by iori_komei
The general population does not vote on such things.
Originally posted by iori_komei
The general population does not vote on such things.
Originally posted by iori_komei
No, I was not aware of that.
That is good to know though.
I don't see the problem though, that is the congresses/legislatives job,
to draft and pass bills/laws.
The general population does not vote on such things.
You are right. We shouldn't even have to because, well, it is unconstitutional...
Originally posted by Infoholic
True and correct, it is their job to draft and pass bills/laws, however, it is not their job to misrepresent the people of America, of which is those in Legislative and Executive branches are elected to do.
The problem that I, and many others see, is instead of using our tax monies to better the lives of people in Mexico (especially under the guise of exactly where this thread is headed), they could spend our tax monies to better the schools, health care, roads, etc. in America. After all, that is what our tax money is for (amongst other things).
Originally posted by iori_komei
Who's to say they are, they would not, in this case, be misrepre-
senting me, or others who agree with me on it.
Originally posted by iori_komei
Considering that the majority of Americans are magnitudes of orders
more better off than the majority of those in Mexico, I see this as a
good use of money.
Originally posted by iori_komei
I agree though, there are many impotant things here that need funding.
However, I'm sure the amount of money that we pump into the war,
and give to countries that no longer, or in some cases never, need(ed)
it, I'm sure there is more than enough to fund both the upliftment of
Mexico and the betterment of America.
Originally posted by iori_komei
You are right. We shouldn't even have to because, well, it is unconstitutional...
No where in the constiution does it say we can not give monetary
aid or otherwise to another country.
Article 1 Section 10
Section 10. No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.
Originally posted by LostSailor
I was talking about the NAU in general.
Article 1 Section 10
Section 10. No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.
Originally posted by iori_komei
There's no part of the constiution that says the United States can not
become part of a larger national entity.
That particular part of the constiution refers to the states only, not the
country as a whole.
The states can not do any of that, but the government as a whole can.
Originally posted by iori_komei
You are right. We shouldn't even have to because, well, it is unconstitutional...
No where in the constiution does it say we can not give monetary
aid or otherwise to another country.
Originally posted by Infoholic
True and correct, it is their job to draft and pass bills/laws, however, it is not their job to misrepresent the people of America, of which is those in Legislative and Executive branches are elected to do.
Who's to say they are, they would not, in this case, be misrepre-
senting me, or others who agree with me on it.
The problem that I, and many others see, is instead of using our tax monies to better the lives of people in Mexico (especially under the guise of exactly where this thread is headed), they could spend our tax monies to better the schools, health care, roads, etc. in America. After all, that is what our tax money is for (amongst other things).
Considering that the majority of Americans are magnitudes of orders
more better off than the majority of those in Mexico, I see this as a
good use of money.
I agree though, there are many impotant things here that need funding.
However, I'm sure the amount of money that we pump into the war,
and give to countries that no longer, or in some cases never, need(ed)
it, I'm sure there is more than enough to fund both the upliftment of
Mexico and the betterment of America.