So, Have they 100% proven that there was once water on mars? because that looks like stuff you see on earth where there once was water but no longer is.

as for the face it's probably just natural, I Want to believe just as much as the next guy (...excluding you that don't want it ) to believe aliens exist and have left us evidence in the past, but i don't think this is it. i think they'd leave something more definite, as opposed to a picaso face. just my opinion.

ArMap, welcome back!! Long vacation eh?
Those images were amazing!

Originally posted by SuicideVirus
So, you're basically saying that because there's a kind of rough regularity to the stuff in the photos, that's enough evidence to convince you that these are some kind of huge artificial alien-built structures? That's all you need, is that right? Case closed?

Interesting.

Case may not be closed just yet!!

Have a look at this Inca City from up close. To me it looks intriguing!


The "Inca City" on Mars photographed by MARINER 9 in 1972 (left)
and by the MGS of 1998 (right).
Pic Courtesy: W. Hain
and JPL/NASA

See the rectangles and other geometry of the 'city'? Could you elucidate as to how this could happen naturally?

Cheers!

Stranger things than that can happen 'naturally' but the first archaeologists to get there will certainly be busy.

What's the scale of the later pic?

Originally posted by Tibris
So, Have they 100% proven that there was once water on mars? because that looks like stuff you see on earth where there once was water but no longer is.

Perhaps this image may be of some help, original picture from ESA Mars Express.

Lets see, in the picture on page one from the OP, I see : Eyes, mouth, nose,neck, some sort of hat or headdress, and for sure it looks a bit Picasso-ish but definitely nOT a natural phenomenon. Look at the surrounding area, and you see NO other protuberances that can even come close; it is OBVIOUSLY a manufactured or created piece.

With all of the other hundreds of ' anomalies ' surrounding the Mars quest, no one can seriously believe that all that we see in just an accident of nature, no way. Odds are too damning in this case. There is NO DOUBT that Mars was or is occupied and for a long time. The cast forests on Mars shown here and on the Skipper site prove that trees exist, massive ones, as well as water in abundance and other telling evidence.

We have been lied to forever about planetary truths to keep us focused on work and taxes and supporting phony wars for profit so the rich can get richer.Truth means nothing to the people in charge, just profits. If the truth were known and told widely, peoples attitudes might changes, and a thinking and far sighted population is exactly the OPPOSIT of that the Controllers want for us. Managing humans for labor is hard enough without the slvaes actually starting to THINK beyond daily survival.

At this point, with all of the evidnce shown, there is NO question that Mars was a very lively place long ago, and may hold clues underground that would shock us to the core, IF we were ever told the truth!!

Originally posted by eyewitness86
At this point, with all of the evidence shown, there is NO question that Mars was a very lively place long ago, and may hold clues underground that would shock us to the core, IF we were ever told the truth!!

Well, Mars could still be a lively place!! What do we know what's underneath?

And about us being told the truth? No way! India is becoming a poodle of the US and so will shut the heck up if anything queer is found on the Moon, in consonance with US policy, during its 2008 Chandrayan Moon shot. Ditto for Japan. China has enormous stakes in the US economy and will do its bidding, as the US so desires. So a blank here too!

So how would we ever get at the truth?

Well, we won't! Not for another 200 years or so until 'anti establishment' countries like Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Syria etc land on Mars. They would not be mixed up with the Western paranoia for secrecy as of now and would love to blow apart the whole 'conspiracy', misinformation and secrecy indulged in by the powers that be.

Till then, we just twiddle our thumbs and keep the 'conspiracies' and speculations going! Will ATS be around till then? Hope so!

Cheers!

IMHO the forehead is too sloping and the nose is a little large to be human. The other face was much better esp. on the 1st mission photos with poor resolution. Have seen this one before in the last 2 years.

Question... Anyone remember the series of Mars photos posted by a Dr. M..something 8 or so years ago that had rather explicit animals like a dolphin and a great moose head? They were surface anamolies in low relief. Wonder where they went?? They looked a little too good not to be fakes, however.

Originally posted by mikesingh
Till then, we just twiddle our thumbs and keep the 'conspiracies' and speculations going! Will ATS be around till then? Hope so!

By then you will REALLY look like your avatar

Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by mikesingh
Till then, we just twiddle our thumbs and keep the 'conspiracies' and speculations going! Will ATS be around till then? Hope so!

By then you will REALLY look like your avatar

Sheesh! By THEN? Heck, that's me right NOW! Do ya remember I got zapped by an electrical short circuit on that crappy Mars shuttle last year? I'll be darned if I'm gonna fly with John, you and Matt in that tin can again!!