Will colonizing other planets become a big issue with the Abrahimic faiths?

Tis is an excellent question. I believe what will happen will be the dogma simply will change to include space travel. A excellent fictional example of this is the Orange Catholic Bible in the Dune series in which Genesis is rewritten to say "All the creatures under all the suns (plural) I give to you."

Space migration is inevitable. When immortality becomes a fact we will have to swarm space to avoid depletion of the Earth. To the gentelman above who said we will never have the economic resources to explore space, I find that incredibly shortsighted; you are assuming the human race will ALWAYS have a monetary system? Not likely.

It is likely the Big Three will do as they have always done; modify themselves to spread (like a virus) with the changes. That is how religions survive

I think God is the sun (core) - and Jesus is the light from the Sun. sun-rays. (the heat - the lifeforce)

So im truly lost in religious aspects these days.

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But it all makes sense that way.

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This believe is so strong it breaks every aspect of holy wars and super control - and super obeyness.

Religion is self inflicted slavery - thats all.

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Originally posted by Sun Matrix
Not a problem that we will have to worry about. The prophecy clock is ticking and the Antichrist is alive on the earth. Though Islam is considered an Abrahamic faith, they serve a different god, so a different question needs to be asked.

So there is actually more than one god LOL. It gets better every day
Seriously people religeon is a joke. Can any one tell me where "all" the Greek and Eygyption gods went??? Oh yeah i remember where they went. They didn't exist in the first place GOD is a fictional character/being/thing LOL people need to get with the times. Just look how much trouble religeon causes.

I don't know about religion, but I know those actively seeking this outcome have a lot of cleaning up to do. The reason they're looking for microbiological life has to do with the leaving behind of waste receptacles. Yes, I'm speaking of Pampers.

They have scattered these things throughout the solar system. And, they are looking for other extra-solar systems, due to too much, well you know.

It will be awhile before we colonize other planets, due to such activities. And, to make matters worse for them, investors want psych profiling. Forget it. It's going to par down explorers to about 20% of their current numbers.

Originally posted by DJMessiah
This has been an issue I have been contemplating for a while now. In the future, when the technology and resources become available to colonize other planets, will the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic faiths consider it a sin to leave the planet and advocate against it?

The problem that would arise with colonizing other planets is that it would prove all three faiths wrong. These faiths preach an "Armageddon" type scenario on Earth, with Islam and Christianity believing that Jesus will return. But what if there is no one left on Earth, or what if there is a large population of humans on other planets, how will these faiths handle the fact that only the inhabitants of Earth will face destruction?

Could religious groups try and supress such technology from existing in the future?

Will these faiths require that all their members remain on Earth to fulfill their prophecies?

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Dude, the mind is where religion lives. If 2000+ years of Christianity and eons more of Judaism (less of Islam) haven't shown that, then our collective God just got an "F" on his report card. (That is if he grades his own work...)

In order to be a supreme being, you must inhabit the minds of your descendants (all of us, presumably). Merely colonizing another planet will not hold people back from re-interpreting yet again what the word of said god (this also includes ALL world religions) truly is as it pertains to the moment of our existence.

The Crusades can be considered the first colonization of Mars if you compare the disparity of civilizations and the difference in how people lived. I am not in any way implying that a civilization exists on Mars or any other planet, but there is one thing in common - the belief that the differences between the here and there as so tremendous that is requires conquest.

Conquest is what your original post implies. I believe colonization of the Universe by humans based on Earth must, repeat with the utmost emphasis, MUST be an endeavor founded by peace. Peace is the concept of delivering the soul at a state of balance into the future.

The future, in your words is space. Colonization can only be done collaboratively, otherwise the tower will fall, the foundation will be of sand, and our foothold in this dimension will be tenuous and as fleeting as other species and civilizations.

Newtron

This could possibly occour. while most faiths believe in an end of the world prophecy. Many who feel that colonizing other planets moraly wrong because of these views could potentialy be concidered selfish.

Of course dogma could also change in this scenerio claiming that a catastrophy or other appocolypse would befall mankind no matter where in the galaxy they exist. That the pious will be taken to heaven and the non believers will befall the fate of man no matter what planet they are on.

I can't see why there would be any real problem with colonisation of other planets in any of the Abrahamic religions, frankly if it is how the human race would survive, I think God would prefer us to go to another planet and live on than to all sit here and wait to die as a species, possibly with the rest of life on earth.

Of course it's just my opinion and you can ignore it if you want, but there may be something in it.

Originally posted by Byrd
For the very fundamentalist Christian religions, it will be a problem because they are being taught that aliens are simply demons and enemies of their god.

Hmm, sounds like Warhammer 40k.

Originally posted by teleonaut

Did God create water before light (1:2-3)? Or is the term "waters" being used to describe something otherwise indescribable? If they are waters as we think of them, then why is God dividing them with a firmament (1:6) that he calls "Heaven" (1:8)? If God created the "heaven" and the "earth" in the beginning (1:1), does that technically precede light (1:3)? If so, then why is he creating them again on the second and third days (1:6, 9-10)?



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Well, I suspect that since everything is a reflection of light that light existed before the earth or water did. One has to remember that God describes himself as light. So, basically, I guess what I am saying is that nothing could precede light.

I don't think this is an issue.

The Abrahamic faith is all about leaving what you know, and embarking on a journey into the unknown, trusting in G-d

The way I read this to mean is that the Bible was inspired by God. (Honestly I dont understand what you were trying to prove with that quote. if you could explain your point I would appreciate it.)Im not saying that we should just disregard the Bible because man wrote it but things are open to interpretation for example some men use the Bible as an excuse to beat and make their wives submit b/c of their interpretation of Men should be the head of wives. IMO as long as you follow the 10 commandments and beleive that Jesus is the son of God then that shouldnt effect ,at least my views, on the colonization of other planets. But then again ppl r gonna have a different opinions

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Originally posted by Sun Matrix

Originally posted by ImpliedChaos
I agree. IMO as a Christian I believe the bible cant be taken literally word for word b/c it was written by man, and it is man's interpretation of God's word. I think only those who interpret The Bible literally will have a problem and do something drastic (like in the movie Sphere with jodie foster) But I dont think the coloization of other planets would go against the Christian ideal of the 2nd coming and such

Let me ask you. Should we take this scripture literally or not?

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

The way I read this to mean is that the Bible was inspired by God. (Honestly I dont understand what you were trying to prove with that quote. if you could explain your point I would appreciate it.)What it means literally to you may mean something different to me thus it is all open to interpretationIm not saying that we should just disregard the Bible because man wrote it but things are open to interpretation for example some men use the Bible as an excuse to beat and make their wives submit b/c of their interpretation of Men should be the head of wives. IMO as long as you follow the 10 commandments and beleive that Jesus is the son of God then that shouldnt effect ,at least my views, on the colonization of other planets. But then again ppl r gonna have a different opinions

...or haven't you read the news lately?

Besides, we're gonna have to ask Laura Bush, Sr. if we're going to Mars anyway, since she seems to be the one who does the research for W.

Could someone explain why people worship such a crappy builder..?? If your home builder/contractor built you a house that was going to fall apart at some future date with pretty much 100% certainty - I don't think you would be singing his praises now would ya....

...yet we continue to sing praises about gadgets and computers, cars and appliances, which ALL become obsolete, out-dated, and rarely work for as long as their supposed to. Everything we build is temporary, except those plastic 6-pack rings; those last forever.

As far as colonizing other planets, I say go for it. Less I-75 Atlanta traffic to deal with.

[The dream of space colonization possesses deep roots in the Christian apocalyptic fantasy of the Rapture of the elect to occur prior to the return of Christ. Space colonization, like its predecessor ascension fantasy, the Rapture, has always involved a tension between the liberation of a holy vanguard and the imminent destruction of the Earth. With the rise of modern technology, rocketry and space travel became, for fundamentalist Christians and technological determinists alike, the man-made tools and signs of an imminent apocalypse. In this dissertation, the 1970s space colonization proposal of Princeton physicist Gerard O’Neill is offered as a case study of these millennial roots of the space-bound dream. O’Neill’s colonies, offered as a way to avoid an irrevocable time of Earthly tribulation, were touted as the means of depopulating the Earth and ending terrestrial conflict. O’Neill’s dreams for rocketry were no different than the dreams of those men who pioneered rocketry before him, although earlier rocketeers and space enthusiasts held more explicitly Christian-inspired apocalyptic beliefs concerning the fate of the Earth and the destiny of humanity.

Chri stians and the Space age

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Um not really. If Christianity is the major faith in politicians and whatnot, there is no way we'd be colonizing other planets. We wouldn't be able to make a decision unless everyone had similar spiritual beliefs, which we don't, and won't.

An interesting thing to think about, would the morality of such colonization even be considered until well into the process? I'm sure the Christians would be sitting there thinking , "Well, I'd rather move and decrease overpopulation and would hunger." And eventually someone would say "Excuse me, isn't this against the idea of God as creator?" And someone else would punch them in the face and be like "Well, where is God now? Do you see Him helping with the world hunger? Does he want them all to die out in the plains of Africa because of starvation? Have they really sinned?" The world would be torn apart massively and the issues building up today, like seperation of church and state, abortion, stem cell research, would just all explode at the same time.

Ummm chyea. Humans are silly.

Here is my whole take on technology and any future advances that we may, may not achieve. If God didn't want us to have the abilities that we do, then we wouldn't have them. When one realizes that everything happens in accordance to God's plan, then this sort of thing is not even an issue.

To colonize another planet - there will be trouble with your current God.

by colonizing other planets
i take it to mean maybe Mars & the Moon of Earth, later on frontier colonies of a few of Saturn's moons.

near future, next 50 years, the bases built on our moon & Mars
will be manned by scientist-engineers-specialists,
who will most likely be secular and unconcerned with religion and
preoccupied with ramping up the untested 'habitats' in alien environments.
if the station personnel want religious stuff, they'll get virtual services
on their off-duty time.


The other side of the coin is;
the power heirarchies here on Earth involved with Christian-Jewish-Islamic
religions may want to make a cause of some sort for the off-world believers to follow...
but that's a long time away, perhaps generations, when off-worlders are born into their own fabricated colonies.

I understand religious dogma generally gets in the way of research and development, but that doesn't mean those scientists aren't believers.

That's an awfully big assumption.

Originally posted by newtron25
I understand religious dogma generally gets in the way of research and development, but that doesn't mean those scientists aren't believers.

That's an awfully big assumption.

Well considering most scientists are generally non-religious (that does'nt
mean just Atheist).

Add that to the fact that the smarter/more knowledgable a person is,
the more the chance that they wont believe in religious notions and
superstitions decreases.