Kennedy assassination -- the UFO connection

"Even the most sensational conspiracy of modern times—the Kennedy assassination—is likely linked to the UFO cover-up and the military cabal, as several of the documents demonstrate."

— excerpt from the introductory statement by Majesticdocuments, presenting painstaking research work into administrative archives mentioning UFOs.

Many documents mention John F. Kennedy and/or his codename Lancer.

The underneath leaked memos, transcripts and military manuals indicate how Kennedy desired more openness on UFO-subjects. These documents also indicate his urge for cooperation with the USSR in this field.

I thought I'd share the main ones with you.

www.majesticdocuments.com...
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The motives for the Kennedy assassination always had a suspicious ring to me -- Kennedy's policies on Vietnam, or his appeasment towards Russia never were quite sufficient to explain such an extreme intervention, with subsequent risks, as assassinating him. Maybe his plans to fractionalize the CIA could have done the trick, but still.

On the other hand: disclosure of the UFO reality, or even worse, cooperation with Russia on UFO-retreived technology, could have sufficed to go along with such a plan.

Please read the documents well before replying.

So he was stirring the wasps nest too much...what a tragic end...

I'll read all that tomorrow.

Is is true Marilyn Monroe said she would disclose everything on the UFO subject if the Kennedy put an end to their relationship, and she was found assassinated the next day? I heard that somewhere, but can't remember the source...

You heard right my friend:there is enough evidence about the Monroe problem in this regard.

Marilyn Monroe & UFOs: Is There A Connection? by Donald Burleson

Marilyn Monroe document from 1962, mentioning her knowledge about the president visiting an Air Force base 'for the purpose of inspecting things from outer space', her intention 'to tell all', and what the press would do with her 'diary of secrets'.

[edit on 17-3-2007 by Thodeph]

Wow that Marilyn Monroe piece was an interesting read!

Well it could help explain why no US President has had the guts to disclose if the JFK killing was a direct result of his intent to disclose. I always wondered what Kennedy was blubbering about when he spoke of a "new Camelot". Was that a hint of him knowing stuff and he was going to reveal all?. Oh yes, it is worth remembering that in the excellent film The Rock with Sean Connery there is a scene where Nicholas Cage finds the secret films and i'm sure it mentions JFK and UFO's. Was that a hidden message ?? Makes you think eh? !!!

I know this is stupid but I'll throw it out there anyway.

They show the driver with a gun and are saying that William Greer was the one who shot JFK. I wonder if this William Greer has any family connection with Steven Greer of the Disclosure Project??????

I know, I know

I've known about this Marilyn Monroe connection. The whole things seems very fishy and I wouldn't be suprised if UFO secrecy played a role in his assasination.

Even then marilyns assasins must have known what a great risk they would be taking by murdering her.I never bought the arguement that she was killed because she was about to tell of her relationships with john and bobby.If true THIS would have made more sense but in no way justifying her murder of course.

The main reasons for JFK's assassination are:

--Bay of Pigs: JFK took public responsibility for a clandestine CIA plot of which he had no foreknowledge. He refused to commit regular US forces to the invasion and swore to break up the CIA into "a thousand pieces."

--Attempting to break up the CIA into "a thousand pieces."

--preparing to pull out of Vietnam, with escalation being one of LBJ's first priorities upon assuming the presidency. War makes money for some.

--authorizing the printing of $4-6 billion in US Treasure silver certificates--i.e., real money, and signing executive order 11110, which authorized the Treasury to issue those notes and which was a direct attack on the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank's monopoly on the issuance and control of the US currency and monetary system.

--detente with Russia in space exploration.

As you can see, there were so many reasons to kill Kennedy, a rogue patriot, that his assassination was inevitable.

The ufo connection is the most speculative element of the nexus of very real threats our last true President represented to the growing military/security/industrial/financial complex. After his example, everyone following has toed the line.

I thought he was shot because he wanted to shut down the federal reserve?

Originally posted by gottago
--Attempting to break up the CIA into "a thousand pieces."

True. John F. Kennedy literally said he wanted to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds." Which isn't favourable to your health, I would imagine.

Since that fatal coup d'étât, the CIA has effectively grown in power, with a scope that is now virtually planetary over foreign press, political parties and intelligence agencies.

But it seems the inquisitive Kennedy had to face up to the all-powerful MJ-12 group as well. This uncovered, half burnt document from the early '60s reads: "As you must know LANCER [codename for JFK] has made some inquiries regarding our activities which we cannot allow. Please submit your views no later than October."

The letter is from MJ1 to other Majestic members. MJ1 was probably the Director of Central Intelligence Allen Dulles. As you know, Dulles was fired by Kennedy in 1961, to later head the Warren investigation commission into his former bosses' assasination.

Originally posted by Thodeph

"Even the most sensational conspiracy of modern times—the Kennedy assassination—is likely linked to the UFO cover-up and the military cabal, as several of the documents demonstrate."

www.majesticdocuments.com...

From above link...

"....Here is an unarguable link between Vannevar Bush and UFO reverse-engineering which the Majestic documents describe...."

Wonder if the Dr Vannevar Bush is any relation to the famous presidential family?

I wondered about that too. He's not related.

Ideologically, though, both Bush strains are fairly close, I'd say (from Wikipedia):

Bush was a proponent of democratic technocracy and of the centrality of technological innovation and entrepreneurship for both economic and geopolitical security.

Okay something really strange just happened when I did an ancestral search on Vannavar Bush.

PLEASE READ THIS from the beginning and stay with me while I explain it.
I went to wikepia where it says that Vannevar Bush was born in Everett, Massachusettes on 11th March 1890 and died 30th June 1974. He lived till he was into his 80s. Okay, all well and good.

I then went into a geneaology site that I use often. ...familysearch dot org.
To do an ancestral search on Vannevar Bush and found his IGI file that matches that information.



Screenshot 1 of file.....(clikc pictures to make bigger. Easier to read)



On the list of names I notice another Vannavar Bush who's birth date and place match, but the death date doesn't....It says death 1949!! Are there 2 Vannavar Bush's born at the same place on the same day but died in 2 totally different years??

Screenshot 2 of file I downloaded.....



After I downloaded this file, I checked all the other entries that were there for Vannavar and I came back to the 1949 one again to make sure the birth dates absolutely matched and I got this suspension message!!

Screenshot 3.....



I've spent hours on this site before and researched hundreds of entries in one night and have never received this suspension screen. WEIRD. VERY WEIRD.

Does any one else think this is information is strange? Why is there an IGI file saying that he died in 1949 when he died in 1974? They very rarely make mistakes with this info....even on a keyboard there is a huge difference between 49 and 74. I doubt it was a typo.




( sorry this isn't exactly about the Kennedys but it's got me puzzled)

[edit on 19-3-2007 by Flighty]

It's all very disturbing, I mean if the President of the United States (supposedly the most powerful man in the world) is afraid to disclose any information the intelligence communities do not want out in the public domain because of the implication's he could face, i.e. being killed, it certainly serves to spread doubt to us about who the people with the real power are.

Scary stuff if you ask me.

Nightworker,

Well, the politics we see is mostly marionette theatre now, and has been since the JFK assassination. It is such a tragic moment in our history. For all his faults, Kennedy was brilliant, charismatic leader and a true patriot. He was trying to do what was right, and got his head blown off for it.

Our politics today is the result; the shadow gov't of the military industrial complex that Ike warned so presciently (and guiltily) about, took over, and has never let go of power.

Many believe the Watergate break-in was an attempt to secure documents about JFK's assassination implicating Nixon and his cronies--some of the plumbers were also in Dallas that day, as were Nixon and GHW Bush. It goes on and on. Talk about conspiracy...

And Clinton faced the same problem; Steven Greer has said that Clinton was also interested in disclosure, but said he didn't want to end up like Kennedy in attempting to bring it to pass.

The long and the short of it, to preserve the national security state, JFK had to die.

I think you will find this speech would of had a fair bit to do with it, surprisingly relevant to today.

Don't know where / when this speech was delivered, gonna look into it when i've got more time. - Also apologies haven't had time to follow any of the links yet - just throwing my 2c in!

peace

This is something that shouldn't go down the memory hole. It's not specifically on-topic to JFK and UFOs, but it is a remarkably prescient analysis of our present condition by Jim Garrison, District Attorney for New Orleans, who placed local businessman Clay Bertrand on trial for conspiracy in the assassination of JFK. He is the focus of Oliver Stone's film, JFK. From a Playboy interview in 1967:

PLAYBOY: Many of the professional critics of the Warren Commission appear to be prompted by political motives: Those on the left are anxious to prove Kennedy was murdered by a internal conspiracy within the establishment; and those on the right are eager to prove the assassination was an act of "the international Communist conspiracy." Where would you place yourself on the political spectrum--right, left or center?

JIM GARRISON: That's a question I've asked myself frequently, especially since this investigation started and I found myself in an incongruous and disillusioning battle with agencies of my own Government. I can't just sit down and add up my political beliefs like a mathematical sum, but I think, in balance, I'd turn up somewhere around the middle. Over the years, I guess I've developed a somewhat conservative attitude--in the traditional libertarian sense of conservatism, as opposed to the thumbscrew-and-rack conservatism of the paramilitary right--particularly in regard to the importance of the individual as opposed to the State and the individual's own responsibilities to humanity . . .

I was with the artillery supporting the division that took Dachau; I arrived there the day after it was taken, when bulldozers were making pyramids of human bodies outside the camp. What I saw there has haunted me ever since. Because the law is my profession, I've always wondered about the judges throughout Germany who sentenced men to jail for picking pockets at a time when their own government was jerking gold from the teeth of men murdered in gas chambers. I'm concerned about all of this because it isn't a German phenomenon; it's a human phenomenon. It can happen here, because there has been no change, there has been no progress and there has been no increase of understanding on the part of men for their fellow men.

What worries me deeply, and I have seen it exemplified in this case, is that we in America are in great danger of slowly eroding into a proto-fascist state. It will be a different kind of fascist state from the one the Germans evolved; theirs grew out of depression and promised bread and work, while ours, curiously enough, seems to be emerging from prosperity. But in the final analysis, it's based on power and on the inability to put human goals and human conscience above the dictates of the State. Its origins can be traced in the tremendous war machine we've built since 1945, the "military-industrial complex" that Eisenhower vainly warned us about, which now dominates every aspect of our life. The power of the states and the Congress has gradually been abandoned to the Executive Department, because of war conditions; and we've seen the creation of an arrogant, swollen bureaucratic complex totally unfettered by the checks and balances of the Constitution.

In a very real and terrifying sense, our Government is the CIA and the Pentagon, with Congress reduced to a debating society. Of course, you can't spot this trend to fascism by casually looking around. You can't look for such familiar signs as the swastika, because they won't be there. We won't build Dachaus and Auschwitzes; the clever manipulation of the mass media is creating a concentration camp of the mind that promises to be far more effective in keeping the populace in line. We're not going to wake up one morning and suddenly find ourselves in gray uniforms goose-stepping off to work.

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But this isn't the test. The test is: What happens to the individual who dissents? In Nazi Germany, he was physically destroyed; here the internal process is more subtle, but the end results are the same. I've learned enough about the machinations of the CIA in the past year to know that this is no longer the internal dreamworld America I once believed in. The imperatives of the population explosion, which almost inevitably will lessen our belief in the sanctity of the individual human life, combined with the awesome power of the CIA and the defense establishment, seem destined to seal the fate of the America I knew as a child and bring us into a new Orwellian world where the citizen exists for the State and where raw power justifies any and every immoral act.

I've always had a kind of knee-jerk trust in my Government's basic integrity, whatever political blunders it may make. But I've come to realize that in Washington, deceiving and manipulating the public are viewed by some as the natural prerogatives of office. Huey Long once said, "Fascism will come to America in the name of anti-fascism." I'm afraid, based on my own long experience, that fascism will come to America in the name of national security.

Forty years ago. A remarkable man.

I am convinced that Kennedy's assassination is completely related to the ufo issue, as was Marilyn Monroe's death. I also believe that's why his brother was assassinated, as well as his lady friend at the time.

Sometimes I think about Ted Kennedy, and that he probably knows about all of this, and I'm sure that it causes him a lot of pain, and that he probably feels pretty powerless around the whole thing. It causes me to realize that these guys really are just window dressing and the real shots are being called from somewhere else....

I knew that Kennedy's death was related to other issues as well, I thank you for clarifying those here.

Had we cooperation with Russia then we could've avoided the Cold War and the world that we live in today might be very different, probably better.

The issues you raise regarding Kennedy being an example for future presidents is accurate, this is why Ford, Carter and Clinton did not move forward with these issues.

However, if some concerned President were somehow to come public regarding these threats without scaring the heck out of people, then it might get accomplished that way. Ya know, like Bob Lazar came out with his story and if he gets assassinated then that proves it's true....