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What are the reasons for the power downs before the 9/11 attacks?

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posted on Jul, 25 2008 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by Hal9000
I would think there would be a maintenance log book, but it could have been destroyed. If an outside contractor did the work, they would have records.


Looking into the permits of the trade center is nearly impossible. The NYDOB (New York City Department of Buildings) website has no data on hardly ANY permits prior to 9/11. Here's a post from a previous topic that sums up what I'm saying.


Originally posted by Griff
Were they working on the plumbing or sprinkler system on 9/11? I don't know, that's why I ask.

An easy way to find out would be to go to the NYDOB website and look at work permits.

Unfortunately, there are no permits to look into for WTC 1, 2 & the old 7. There are permits for the new WTC 7 but very little (like 1 or 2) for the old buildings. Are they trying to tell me that in the 30 some years the towers were up, that there was NO work done on them?

Here's the site if anyone wants to check it out for themselves.

www.nyc.gov...


NYC Department of Buildings
Permits In-Process / Issued by Premises
Page: 1 of 1
Premises: 1 WORLD TRADE CENTER MANHATTAN BIN: 1081988 Block: 58 Lot: 1

NUMBER JOB/TYPE/SEQNO/ISSUED DATE/ EXPIRATION DATE/STATUS
APPLICANT NAME
103027626-01-EQ SH A3 - ALT3 01 11/21/2001 04/01/2002 ISSUED UDDIN MD TOHFAZ
102951922-01-EQ SH A3 - ALT3 02 04/18/2001 05/01/2002 ISSUED BLINN GLENN
102265362-01-AL A3 - ALT3 01 09/10/2002 05/13/2003 ISSUED AHERN MICHAEL
100418745-01-EW OT A2 - ALT2 01 05/18/1992 08/15/1992 ISSUED HENEGAN DANIEL


WTC 1 has 4 listed. but notice the dates of issue. There are only 2 that are pre-9/11. The others are for sidewalk sheds and temporary stage. The one from 1992 was for "minor partition changes on part of 39th floor as indicated on drawings". The one from 4/2001 was also for sidewalk sheds.

So, this is all the work that was done on WTC 1 since erection? I call BS.


NYC Department of Buildings
Property Profile Overview
NO PREVIOUSLY ISSUED PERMITS FOUND FOR THIS PROPERTY

2 WORLD TRADE CENTER MANHATTAN 10048 BIN# 1081984

WORLD TRADE CENTER 2 - 2 Health Area : Tax Block : 58
Census Tract : Tax Lot : 1
Community Board : 101 Condo : NO
Vacant : YES


Notice the "No previously issued permits found for this property". They are going to tell me that NO work was done on WTC 2 since erection? Again, I call BS.


NYC Department of Buildings
Permits In-Process / Issued by Premises
Page: 1 of 1
Premises: 2 WEST BROADWAY MANHATTAN BIN: 1086510 Block: 84 Lot: 36

NUMBER JOB
TYPE SEQ
NO ISSUED
DATE EXPIRATION
DATE
STATUS
APPLICANT NAME
104309990-01-EQ SF A3 - ALT3 01 03/22/2006 04/01/2007 ISSUED DEL MASTRO THOMAS
103534819-01-EQ OT A3 - ALT3 02 03/25/2004 12/31/2004 ISSUED KARAS GREG
100057974-01-EQ SH A3 - ALT3 01 06/13/1990 08/19/1990 ISSUED JAZWIECKI SIGMUND
100057938-01-EQ SF A3 - ALT3 01 06/15/1990 08/19/1990 ISSUED JAZWIECKI SIGMUND
1P0004195-01- 01 09/07/1990 09/07/1991 ISSUED BLINN GLENN
1P0001528-01- 01 04/27/1990 12/31/1990 ISSUED HEYDT MARK
1P0000990-01- 01 04/16/1990 04/01/1991 ISSUED HEYDT MARK
1P0000628-01- 02 09/11/1990 09/01/1991 ISSUED BLINN GLENN
1P0000577-01- 01 04/09/1990 09/10/1990 ISSUED BLINN GLENN


There are more for WTC 7. 7 total pre-9/11. That I could understand a little more since WTC 7 was built in the 80's and not the 60's.

Sorry to go so far off topic. Not really since we are talking about sprinkler work and such.


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Edit: Side note. The address of 2 West Broadway is also 7 World Trade.



7 WORLD TRADE CENTER MANHATTAN 10048 BIN# 1086510

BARCLAY STREET 60 - 82 Health Area : 7700 Tax Block : 84
VESEY STREET 72 - 86 Census Tract : 21 Tax Lot : 36
WASHINGTON STREET 209 - 221 Community Board : 101 Condo : NO
WEST BROADWAY 2 - 14 Buildings on Lot : 1 Vacant : NO
WORLD TRADE CENTER 7 - 7


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[edit on 7/25/2008 by Griff]



posted on Jul, 26 2008 @ 09:04 AM
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Hi Griff,

I work in a 38 story building. We pull "maintenance" permits annually to cover basic changes and work. ie: Adding electrical panels, new plumbing fixtures, etc. Only when we do major work are we required to have additional permits pulled.

I'm not sure how the NYPA and the Building Dept. in NYC worked out that stuff.

I can tell you that upgrading IT communication cables would not require a permit unless there was an increase in electrical requirements, or structural changes.

The "power down" could have very likely been to power down your computers while the IT is upgraded. (if there in fact was one)



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