finally real pics of NAZI UFOs!, page 4

Originally posted by Long Lance
you are right in a way and very wrong in a strategic sense.

You have accused me of that in the past and you have seemingly forgotten how that turned out.

you don't need to kill equipment and men on the front while fully deployed -

Serious? You mean you can do something like 'strategic bombing'? OMG. If i had not the recourse of sarcasm....

that's what the germans originally excelled at - it's far cheaper to do it before stuff even enters the factory, like the allies did, enroute, say aboard ships...

The Germans had the war against the USSR won in six weeks and no amount of shifting factories to the Urals or wherever could in fact had won them the war if Hitler did not choose to lose it by misdirecting Army group center.

which killed Japan's war economy and curtailed their fleet's mobility.

Japan had no war economy or economy to speak of anyways and frankly Japan could never build enough of anything to win that war with; they were going to win it with what they had up to say the end of 1942 and that's about it.

but to put it more clearly, not a single USSR convoy would have survived against this kind of weapon system, not one, fuel oil storage around the world (and tankers!) would have been fair game.

Well we do not know if these UFOs in fact had weapon systems at all and it's not logical to assume that because they made breakthroughs in one field that they could also operate weapons on those aircraft or had found ways to aim such weapons. You are the one leaping the conclusions without even giving us a date and number of UFOs with which types of weapons could have possible shut down the North Atlantic trade routes better than a much larger deployment of regular Luftwaffe strike planes could. Would these UFOs be able to operate in that bad weather any better than regular planes? Could the support facilities be built in Norway? Frankly it is all speculation ( mine included) but if you want to shoot down theories your going to have to do more than just raise objections without merit.

you can't intercept it,

Why not? Why can't you bomb it when it lands to rearm or 'refuel' or just to bring a new rested crew aboard? Jet aircraft were certainly much faster but they were still shot down or lost in landing accidents or while attempting to land/take off...

it can land anywhere,

And do what? Where does the crew rest and where does the ammunition or supplies comes from? Why do we think it can land anywhere? Can it stand dust and dirt as well as regular planes?

its cannon rivals a naval gun and acts instantaneously,

Evidence? Why not consider that the Luftwaffe could have deployed cannon armed jet fighters in late 43 in strategically significant number had someone not decided that jet fighters were not required? Where is the evidence that these were fighters or bombers or in fact had any means of self defense?

this thing would have been a true killer (you'd only need bombs tbh). that's *before* thinkng of strategic reconnaisance! can you imagine what war would be like if you had continuous long range surveillance without the enemy's knowledge? like 'Ultra' just better.

How do you observe enemy movements while moving at a thousand km/ph lacking modern equipment? Could they in fact do that and did they need such recon assets considering how good their regular units were? Would a strategic asset best be deployed in that way?

The Allies spent more time and effort on developing B-29 (and B-36) bombers than on the nuke project for one reason only: to have the strategic advantage of extremely long reach.

They in fact spent so much effort on that because they released that a invasion against a European Hegemon in Germany would have been a pointless bloodbath. The Bomber campaign almost failed anyways and had Hitler not been so interested in losing the war it probably would have.

this UFO would have had global range and serious payload (by nature of antigrav tech) if i understand it correctly as well as DEWs,

And i suppose we have somehow moved into the realm of facts here? Feel free to introduce some if you please as i have not seen the evidence that proves or even begins to seriously support that.

don't you think you would emphasize the effort above all other projects,

Like they did the Jet bomber over the Jet fighter? Where is the evidence that Germany's ( mostly Hitlers ) strategic planning were that good? In 1941 he managed to lose the war by misdirecting the German army so why do we assume such wondrous things about his long term planning for fighting the USA?

like the 6 engined 'america bomber' f-ex.? - at best a toy compared to a large flying disk.

If the disk could work and disks could be built in significant numbers? What sort of strategic materials were required for this construction and how many could be built per year given a certain percentage of GDP expenditure? Could Germany in 1944 afforded to build more than 1 or even 10? Did they have have the weapons technology to make that construction worth their while? Why not possible build a thousand Panther tanks or 200 FW-190's that had both proved themselves up to the task? If these aircraft were not deployed in large numbers or employed why should we assume they were not built or could not in fact fly? To argue that operational models did not exist because Germany lost the war is at best a stupid remark.

it does not add up. true, subs loaded with dozens of tons of mercury, among other things, make me wonder,

And where were they going? Where did all the looted gold go? Where did Hitler go and by what means? All good questions that might or might not prove anything about German UFO's. This should be a question of logic and logic does not rule out German operational anti-grav planes any more than it does German nuclear weapons ( which i believed they had) in very late stages of construction and possible just waiting for mating.

but if these UFOs are real, then they MUST be flown by another power or completely independent splinter fraction.

Why? Why do we need such factions ( presumably from another planet as goes the mob logic) when we have all the know how right here on planet Earth? Anti-gravity is nothing new ( notice how they don't even talk about it in military circle's just like the USSR stopped talking about particle beam and laser weapons in the early 70's) and if anything i am quite confident that at least two or three countries now operate such craft each doing so in significant numbers. Logic dictates that it is far more likely that you are seeing Russian anti-grav craft in American skies than Alien one's and while I'm not going to attempt to prove that it's pretty much what i believe to be the case.

truth is stranger than fiction,

Abundantly obvious to serious investigators of reality.

though and the 'flying disc' isse is afaics, a real one, it's the tip of a very dark iceberg, apparently and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if it's been going on, like forever.

i'll mention one event which i *think* is part of this deadly secret:

Tunguska

I hardly think Tunguska needs to be explained by such means but the rest i can easily agree with.

Lets agree more and disagree less in the future? That is probably best achieved my giving me ( you can start with just a little more if you wish) somewhat more credit than you did here!

Stellar