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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 04:17 PM by bothered
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I like the ones with holes in them.
Seriously, though, the music seems a little upbeat and modern for archival footage. And it seems to emanate from Deutchland. Thought they were a
little more into opera-esce at the time.
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 04:33 PM by Lexion
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Originally posted by Echtelion
No way!!!  This website is an obvious hoax! Some pics might be based on real experimental aircrafts, but scramjet-propulsed v-wing planes
in WW2??? And that flying thing with rotating jet-propulsed wings... just ridiculous.This is bogus crap!
I'm generally in favor of proof.
These nice people have provided links and pictures to substantiate their claims.
Do you have any proof to back your claims of hoax ?
Waiting as usual,
Lex
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 04:36 PM by Seeker PI
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Originally posted by Seeker PI
Originally posted by thedigirati
the 1st link is to a revisionist web page ( at least the home page for that site is) but the second link is not, and the first page is not abut
revisionism per se. Google or bablefish can translate them, I read them a few years back and don't think the 1st link is talking about his personal
ideas, it's more about the how why and when of the crafts
Much appreciated, I'll check it out.
Thanks for the insight, its quite the subject when you look at it from outside the box.
For those of you following along, the links that thedigirati has kindly provided, talk in detail about the infamous Vrill craft which as I've said is
the holy grail that your debateing. You should check it out, it's the crux of the matter.
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 06:18 PM by Inca_Roads
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The massive amount of exclamation points in the thread title tells me these photos are REAL, dammit! This guy isn't fooling around.
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 07:11 PM by Joshua Crick
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Go Germany! I've seen these before. Pretty amazing that they could do that so long ago.
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 07:35 PM by Akareyon
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Nice vid... I'm not too much into weaponry and stuff, but I was quite impressed by the creativity of the engineers to produce machines that destroy
stuff. Did I see an early form of the stealth fighters there?
FYI, vho.org itself seems to be about historical revisionism, but they host Jan van Helsing's famous books "Geheimgesellschaften" (secret
societies), and the link is to one if its chapters. JvH's books are forbidden in Germany for "anti-semitic content" (very bad excuse, because
they're not about Jews at all), but they were considered some sort of standard conspiracy nuts' must-read for a long time because they give a very
good overview over most conspiracy theories in the western world, covering UFOs, hollow earth, Illuminati, Thule society, Majestic 12, the
Merovingians and mostly everything else, including messengers from Aldebaran. Did I mention vegan Aryans live under Antarctica who ask plants for
permission to eat them?
Some stuff is ridiculous, some stuff is outright false. But of course, not everything in his books is BS (he was right about a terror attack on the US
around 2000, IIRC), some things were pretty close to what I today understand to be the truth and if it weren't for Jan van Helsing "opening my
eyes", today I'd probably believe that high-rise buildings just collapse from time to time...
One of the things I tend to believe more than others from his books are the "Reichsflugkreisel" (or "Nazi UFOs"). Serious sceptics don't deny
there were tests with disc-shaped aircraft, even "Der Spiegel" had a report about them many years ago. They refer to this concept:
www.kheichhorn.de...
which is, basically, an early form of a helicopter with the rotor around the craft. It is claimed that this wouldn't work because the jet engines
would rip off at high velocities.
However, Jan van Helsing (and kheichorn.de) claim that the Third Reich's Luftwaffe technology went even further. The concept of the VRIL and HAUNEBU
"UFOs" has to do with two magnetic discs rotating anti-parallelly, thus creating an anti-gravity propulsion system. These saucers allegedly were
extremely fast (7000 km/h - 3*c) and could leave earth's atmosphere.
I have no way to verify these claims, because there are many references to SS secret archives which claim this and that... who knows. But I heard that
Operation Paperclip was about transferring Third Reich engineers to the US, so we shouldn't be too alarmed when we see flying saucers overhead - they
may just be Fourth Reich's "secret weapons" :-)
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 07:42 PM by Nightwolf444
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well the person that made these vids put diffrent music on there also there is a link on half of the photos you guys might have missed its
(luftarchiv.de) try a google search for it its the first link and you can switch it between english and german
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 07:45 PM by St Udio
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Originally posted by Inca_Roads
The massive amount of exclamation points in the thread title tells me these photos are REAL, dammit! This guy isn't fooling around.
analyse it some;
' finally REAL pics of NAZI UFOS (twelve exclamination points here)'
* "finally": did someone gain access into a secret file cabinet? Or did a declassification date come around for these 1940s photos to be
released?
* "REAL pics": the images may be 'real' but are they 'authentic' , meaning are the images from the Nazi era? ...history has shown that the Nazis
were sticklers in documenting everything ! (as they truly believed that the documents they were recording would be seen as historical relics as the
'Third Reich' enjoyed its 1,000 year supremacy in the world)
* "NAZI UFOS": pretty much a propaganda item. although I did see a working Nazi 'flying wing' aircraft captured on film, 'in the Indiana Jones
series- - the craft was seen {as in "REAL pic" } on a location in Egypt.
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 07:53 PM by Nightwolf444
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I'll try and find more NAZI UFO vids but do a serch around youtube or google video on NAZI UFOS and you will find plenty of videos on this subject
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 08:03 PM by Nightwolf444
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Originally posted by St Udio
Originally posted by Inca_Roads
The massive amount of exclamation points in the thread title tells me these photos are REAL, dammit! This guy isn't fooling around.
analyse it some;
' finally REAL pics of NAZI UFOS (twelve exclamination points here)'
* "finally": did someone gain access into a secret file cabinet? Or did a declassification date come around for these 1940s photos to be
released?
* "REAL pics": the images may be 'real' but are they 'authentic' , meaning are the images from the Nazi era? ...history has shown that the Nazis
were sticklers in documenting everything ! (as they truly believed that the documents they were recording would be seen as historical relics as the
'Third Reich' enjoyed its 1,000 year supremacy in the world)
* "NAZI UFOS": pretty much a propaganda item. although I did see a working Nazi 'flying wing' aircraft captured on film, 'in the Indiana Jones
series- - the craft was seen {as in "REAL pic" } on a location in Egypt.
Tell me are you an expert in photoshop because if you are go ahead and look at the photos in question especially the one where one of the discs is
being transported by a transport truck. Notice how the disc matches the color of the truck and that there is no evidence of it being placed there
digitaly. Now i'm not a whiz at photoshop and surely someone will clarify the "is it photoshopped" issue but St Igdo (hopefully i said that right
if not sorry) this has always been a interesting issue because of the rareity of photos and paperwork about these mysterious aircraft. There has been
evidence found that suggests germany had a disc program and that these aircraft had very adavnced technology for their time
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 08:08 PM by The Coward
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Fist off, all I see is a bunch of planes, bad music and half as photoshop flyind disk. They in no way, compare to what people seen back then.
Disinformation comes with a load of crapy planes and very #e music.
P.S. if Germany really did have UfOs you would have been their biatches. That is a fact. No one makes planes of that capacity to hide them durring one
of the most important wars of the century.
My opinion on this. FAKE, FAKE, FAKE and don't bother me with it anymore.
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 08:12 PM by Nightwolf444
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and here is a vid that shows alleged pictures of these discs
www.youtube.com...
and another
www.youtube.com...
what if found intriguing about the 2nd video was when they zommed in on some of the pics you can clearly see SS marking and the black cross tell me
what you guys think
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 08:22 PM by The Coward
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I swear to God. These videos are such bull. If you can get some lame pics of them. Why not anymore of being inside a UfO. What a load of...
You guys could believe whatever you want. But NoNe of those supposed flying disk could withstand a 90 degree turn. They would evaporate in mid air.
Not only that, but where are the videos of them in flight?
Bull!!! FAKE, MORE FAKE, AND WILL ALWAYS BE FAKE. Germans would be your masters right now if they had UFOs.
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 08:33 PM by Connected
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UFO = Unidentifiable Flying Object
I only see identifiable flying objects though. No UFO's here.
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 09:03 PM by badw0lf
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Originally posted by Seeker PI
Thanks for the links Nightwolf444.
Its been a pet subject of mine for sometime, so I appreciate the thread.
I can identify all but 3 or 4 of the aircraft shown.
1 shot is the classic ufo saucer shaped vehicle. Its the holy grail of the subject. It reportedly had a Tiger Tank turret positioned on its underside.
Unfortunately the craft pictured doesn't offer much to the arguement and could be one of many fakes that float around.
I have to do it... sry..
These things float around ??
Truly the Nazi's had great technology..

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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 09:14 PM by badw0lf
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Originally posted by Lexion
Originally posted by Echtelion
No way!!!  This website is an obvious hoax! Some pics might be based on real experimental aircrafts, but scramjet-propulsed v-wing planes
in WW2??? And that flying thing with rotating jet-propulsed wings... just ridiculous.This is bogus crap!
I'm generally in favor of proof.
These nice people have provided links and pictures to substantiate their claims.
Do you have any proof to back your claims of hoax ?
Waiting as usual,
Lex
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I'M superman. Prove otherwise.
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 09:24 PM by badw0lf
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Originally posted by Nightwolf444
and here is a vid that shows alleged pictures of these discs
www.youtube.com...
and another
www.youtube.com...
what if found intriguing about the 2nd video was when they zommed in on some of the pics you can clearly see SS marking and the black cross tell me
what you guys think
Dude, lay off the youtube.. wow..
Ive got pictures of me in ww2 !! Wanna see em.. oh wait, that was call of duty 2.. sry..
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 09:25 PM by thedigirati
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Originally posted by The Coward
P.S. if Germany really did have UfOs you would have been their biatches. That is a fact. No one makes planes of that capacity to hide them durring one
of the most important wars of the century.
My opinion on this. FAKE, FAKE, FAKE and don't bother me with it anymore.
Umm I can tell that you didn't look at any of MY post's at all so your not making an informed decision, in 1944-45 Germany was running out of
production capabilities, so it would have been difficult to put into production anything "new" that they came up with.. but as an informed
historian, I'm sure you knew all this...right?
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 09:40 PM by thedigirati
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reply posted on 17-3-2007 @ 09:59 PM by The Coward
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Originally posted by thedigirati
Umm I can tell that you didn't look at any of MY post's at all so your not making an informed decision, in 1944-45 Germany was running out of
production capabilities, so it would have been difficult to put into production anything "new" that they came up with.. but as an informed
historian, I'm sure you knew all this...right?
FAKE AND MORE FAKE. like I said before if the Germans had UFOs you would be their slave.
And anyway, UFOs are not just from the Forties and fifties. They span way back since the Cave paintings. So basically what you know is nonsense. Sorry
but that is the way it is.
Germans were barely making rocket technology how the F@#$ are they gonna make antigravity? That is more unbelievable than saying that they are
alien.
Germans want to be the best at everything. Now they come up with this UfO bull. I'm sorry, I don't buy it kid. And you will waste your time
directing your comments at me because I will NEVER believe that BS story. So go and bother someone else. See ya!!
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