There is only one small problem I see with building a "Super-Base" North of China Lake. This thing would be skirtting the edge of Death Valley National Park.

No Offence, but I find it odd that they would stick an undergruond military base so close to a national park. If you look on a map of California, a place to the South of China Lake would make more sense.

Tim

Originally posted by zeeon
There is only one other place on the west coast that the Navy can drop live ordnance - that place is Fallon, NV.

Not entirely true. Although, MCAS Miramar (formerly NAS Miramar) is a Marine Corps air base, both the Navy and Marine Corps close air support training squadrons are based out of Miramar and use the ordinance ranges on Miramar. Also MCAS Yuma also does live ordinance training with both Navy and Marine Squadrons. Just FYI

edited: because I forgot to hit the space bar. D'oh!!

And for those who might be wondering: Miramar is in California and Yuma is in Arizona

[edit on 3/20/2007 by PapaHomer]

Originally posted by allMIGHTY
i want to add something. 3-5 mins after i posted this, the ATS website was
down for a few minutes.

Sure, it must not have to do something with that but for me it is a bit weird that
ATS has gone offline for a few minutes after i posted this thread.

I'm almost 100% sure that the going ofline has to do with skeptic overlord and his people fiddling with the post bar on the bottom. So don't alarmed.

This is actually very interessting:

If you go north / northeast , following the Tower Rd to the end where the mountains start - you will see a crop cirkle / Star of David at the cross road.
I cant remember seeing this spot on any collection of interesting Google Earth Secret Spots !

My question is: is that Crop Cirkle / Star - a point of entry to the underground base ?

- And whats with all those roads between from city China Lake and the mountains in north ?

East just outside the city, there are some strange small buildings in the road system called 1st street, 2nd street and so on.

new to ats here...just curious how you ppl are finding all of this on google earth...

Just check out the following Google Earth location...hidden under "clouds of smoke" Surrounding area FULL of unusual features. You can see ends of runway at each end of the "Cloud". Check history button on Google Earth to see recent past without this feature on the desert.

Lat 36.120705
Long -117.465

it gave you an answer... it will answer anomymously

I was stationed at China Lake with VX-9. I always thought there was a secret base. They have a secret hanger which noone had access to. There is also civilian aircraft which noone knows about. Everyone speculated but noone had any hard evidence. Lots of really secret things went on there. Signs on base state, "What you see here, what you do here, stays here". Something along those lines anyway.

I have heard some crazy(though plausible) things that happen there from when I lived in Ridgecrest.

Hey everyone i am new to ATS.

I am very interested in this subject for China Lake. I was born in Ridgecrest and moved away when i turned 6. Every year from then till now(i am 19) i would go back to Ridgecrest to visit family and friends atleast twice. I have heard many interesting thing about China Lake. One of which was B mountain was man made. No one has ever said anything about a underground base but if there really was one I think it would be under there. It is a very interesting pattern of possible POI. As you all may have seen it is very much in a "square pattern".

The photo links provided by RoofMonkey are invalid links. I was sad to see this since i was interested in what they provided.

Also regarding RoofMonkey's post about temperature, if the government had the ability to build a 12 x 6 km underground base sitting at 5,000-22,000 ft and can bring a space shuttle back into earth through the atmosphere without having it burn up 100% of the time, then im sure they have developed something to withstand the temperatures down there.

Just last year i was driving on Inyokern road and noticed the mountains towards the military airport had a series of lights. Had one light in one area another light in another, all spread out throughout the mountain. There were about 10-15 of them, almost like campers with flash lights but yet it was powerful enough i could see it from the road i was on. I have heard rumors from some older people that they have seen "aircrafts flying over rain clouds and spraying something on them and within an hour the clouds were gone and no rain was dropped".

Someone posted that there are something like 4,000 people who work on the base, if i remember correctly i was told there are something around 5,000-10,000 people? Even still at 4k people they do not ahve enough buildings to house that many people. After everyone gets off work Ridgecrest is flooded with thousands of people on the road. It is ridiculous how many cars are on the road.

Sorry for the rant, just thought i'd throw my 2 cents out in the open.

Keep up the search! I am searching and planning a "research trip" out to some possible bases within the next few months.

i almost never post. i have found something near by. go north and follow the main road.

you will see another installation. appears to be bunkered down too.

if you look at one of the runways. you will see some strange squigly lines(my guess google hiding something). they are in the same pattern.

36°11'18.80"N

117°33'9.76"W

that is what seems to be a main runway. looks big enough for the shuttle.
it is about 1.1 miles long.

then there is.

36°12'19.92"N

117°33'20.45"W

that is where i see the weird lines. almost look like hebrew writing or something. not great on middle eastern languages.



also a possible entrance to the base?

36° 6'6.28"N

117°30'20.78"W

please let me know what you all think.

They have a lot of weird stuff out there. Most of it is mock up cities and stuff like that to test weapons on.

Originally posted by AUM68
This is actually very interessting:

If you go north / northeast , following the Tower Rd to the end where the mountains start - you will see a crop cirkle / Star of David at the cross road.
I cant remember seeing this spot on any collection of interesting Google Earth Secret Spots !

My question is: is that Crop Cirkle / Star - a point of entry to the underground base ?
A: If you are referring to the star in North range, it's a high-speed camera setup that covers various angles of a test site.

- And whats with all those roads between from city China Lake and the mountains in north ?
A: The roads lead up to various sites that include petrolyph and archological areas, a high energy RF test site, the Coso Geothermal plant and various remote camera, LADR, RADAR and other sensors that record the testing and training that NAWC-WD, VX-9, VX-31 (AKA Weapons Test Squadron) and others perform in the R2508 range complex.
~Stray Trons

East just outside the city, there are some strange small buildings in the road system called 1st street, 2nd street and so on.
A: If you are talking about the Pilot Plant Road complex, that is a DoD RDT&E facility. That's all I'll say about that.