Possible super huge underground base found!, page 2
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reply posted on 15-8-2008 @ 10:10 AM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by allMIGHTY



There is an underground base at China Lake. I grew up in Ridgecrest and I heard my parents talk about it. I questioned my dad later and he said it was there as a place for the president to go if he was in CA and war broke out. He told me it was top secret and not to talk about it. At the time it was a good enough answer. Years later again overheard my Mom say one of her clients worked under the base and he went crazy and had to be sent to OK by the govt. for treatment. Also the area where a reported cavern opening to an underground city near Death Valley is now owned by China Lake.


reply posted on 7-1-2009 @ 06:49 PM by Anonymous ATS
The more plausible explanation is that the Northern reaches of the Naval Air Weapons Station, China Lake encompass the Coso Geothermal Field. Being a verified volcanic range, this accounts for seismic activity. If there is a giant, underground, facility at China Lake, it would certainly not be located under an active volcanic range for obvious reasons.


reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 04:34 PM by RoofMonkey
While it is not direct evidence of an underground base... the dismissing it as a series of bombing impacts is even more ludicrous.

Look at the depth... I don't think that any incarnation of the Massive Ordinance Penetrator can get that deep.
GBU-57A/B)

Lets take just one of those "clusters"

10/1/1982 - 35.73 : -117.75 Mag 3.4 Depth 5 km
10/1/1982 - 35.73 : -117.75 Mag 5.4 Depth 8 km
10/30/1982 - 35.73 : -117.75 Mag 3.5 Depth 7 km
1/5/1983 - 35.73 : -117.75 Mag 3 Depth 8 km
1/7/1983 - 35.73 : -117.75 Mag 3.9 Depth 7 km
1/8/1983 - 35.73 : -117.75 Mag 3.3 Depth 9 km
1/13/1983 - 35.73 : -117.75 Mag 3 Depth 9 km

Average Depth - 6.85 km
Average Quake Size - Mag 3.42


Now... at a depth of 6.85 km, you are 22461 feet underground. This presents a heat issue. Using data from observations at the Comstock mine in Nevada, temperature increases at about 1 degree for every 29 or 32.3 feet lower that you dig.

Reference

Assuming a 50 degree temperature as a start point... equating to about 25 to 75 feet down (I believe that this is realistic assumption), then by the time you reach 22461 feet, you are at about 745º to 824º F.

Even if the depth is actually at 3.5 km (since that value shows up in the oddly patterned quakes quite often) you are at 11483 feet and 405º to 446º F.


No matter how you look at it, you will need some serious infrastructure to cool the place off. Either chilling towers, piping the heat to a river system, etc. That or the place would have to be occupied by someone/thing capable of existing in that sort of environment... say, a Venusian. (I'm not postulating that, just observing that it's just as hot on Venus.)

So... what you should be looking for, is some evidence of how this heat issue is being dealt with. Something like a stream or river being A LOT warmer than it should be... or a nuclear reactor plant whose cooling towers never decline in heat output even when the reactor is offline... stuff like that.

Meanwhile, Geocover 1990 of the area (warning, large image)

files.abovetopsecret.com...

And Geocover 2000 of the same area... also a large image.

files.abovetopsecret.com...


The green red and yellow ovals are Nasa Worldwind's plot of the quakes from the OP's Google Earth imagery.

The historical data comes from neic.usgs.gov...






[edit on 8-11-2009 by RoofMonkey]



reply posted on 30-3-2010 @ 10:51 AM by djp47
reply to post by Anonymous ATS



I knew two people who were electricians and were taken by blacked out bus (windows covered) to areas south of Darwin, CA. to work on projects.

There were times when the one I talked to had to go to special room and just sit while activities occurred. He thought it was a giant laser project powered by the Geothermal power plant they built just for that purpose.

Both are now dead of "Suicide", which no one believed.

If a laser exists it could have shot down the Space Shuttle as it passed directly over this oint on way to its crash.


reply posted on 27-8-2010 @ 10:55 AM by chowdan
Hey everyone i am new to ATS.

I am very interested in this subject for China Lake. I was born in Ridgecrest and moved away when i turned 6. Every year from then till now(i am 19) i would go back to Ridgecrest to visit family and friends atleast twice. I have heard many interesting thing about China Lake. One of which was B mountain was man made. No one has ever said anything about a underground base but if there really was one I think it would be under there. It is a very interesting pattern of possible POI. As you all may have seen it is very much in a "square pattern".

The photo links provided by RoofMonkey are invalid links. I was sad to see this since i was interested in what they provided.

Also regarding RoofMonkey's post about temperature, if the government had the ability to build a 12 x 6 km underground base sitting at 5,000-22,000 ft and can bring a space shuttle back into earth through the atmosphere without having it burn up 100% of the time, then im sure they have developed something to withstand the temperatures down there.

Just last year i was driving on Inyokern road and noticed the mountains towards the military airport had a series of lights. Had one light in one area another light in another, all spread out throughout the mountain. There were about 10-15 of them, almost like campers with flash lights but yet it was powerful enough i could see it from the road i was on. I have heard rumors from some older people that they have seen "aircrafts flying over rain clouds and spraying something on them and within an hour the clouds were gone and no rain was dropped".

Someone posted that there are something like 4,000 people who work on the base, if i remember correctly i was told there are something around 5,000-10,000 people? Even still at 4k people they do not ahve enough buildings to house that many people. After everyone gets off work Ridgecrest is flooded with thousands of people on the road. It is ridiculous how many cars are on the road.

Sorry for the rant, just thought i'd throw my 2 cents out in the open.

Keep up the search! I am searching and planning a "research trip" out to some possible bases within the next few months.



reply posted on 29-8-2010 @ 01:09 PM by breemtameem
reply to post by allMIGHTY



Howdy there, i think you are definitely on to something. Though google earth probably excludes any military installation (more so the details of the structures and training areas of the base itself) in close up terms, i think it's a clever thought out plan to have this installation appear on google earth, then for people to think "hey it is a military underground base!" and then later realize, "wait a second, they wouldn't actually put that on here!", then for us (the public) to just forget all about it and doubt it because we couldn't have been so naive to think it's for real... when it actually is.

hope that makes sense
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