Sedona, AZ

Originally posted by jboogienoj
I went looking for 'something' and found 'nothing'. Beautiful landscapes tho.

you are certainly right finding nothing. this is the whole idea of a "rabbit hole" - it certainly should blend in with its surroundings and quite well w/all the technology.

maybe, it just wasn't meant for you to see. it was so very clean to me. go down the rabbit hole - searching for alice......it's here on ATS. blue pill anyone?

Originally posted by promomag

www.youtube.com...

There's another thread on this family abduction video, thought it was relevant here as well since there is a discussion about Tom Dongo.

LOL yeah Tom Dongo is a elite expert.

www.imdb.com...
(click for cast and credits of fake movie)

Yeah genuine film.....for sure!!

Originally posted by groingrinder
I would be interested in knowing why the Army Corps of Engineers allows that farm to dam up a stream. That is certainly a no no. When you own the land, you do not necessarily own the water on it. I want to say that the water in the pond and coming out of it looks mighty milky compared to the water coming into it. I believe that something is being done to the water before it is sent downstream.

[edit on 3-16-2007 by groingrinder]

That is exactly what i was thinking when i saw this, especially in such an enviromentally protected area too.. wow?...!

Kind of looks like a small hydroplant to me, just my first impression. Very odd road structure.

Originally posted by ditto44
I have done hypnosis on Bell Rock and Boynton Canyon.

please tell me HOW someone hypnotizes a rock and a canyon?

SURELY you have only mis spoken.......and I wonder what you really mean?

Sedonas an interesting but beautiful place. It's turning into a major resort area. especially the outskirts of sedona.

I was last in sedona back in the early 90's. Went with my parents. my mom at the time was a native american historian and we were there so that she could interview a guy named chief white bear of the hopi nation. he was a gentile old man with a sweet wife and when not on the hopi reservation they lived down in sedona in this old trailer park whittling katchinas to sell in town. He told me all sorts of weird stuff. like that the natie americans were dumped by ET's at lake titicaca and that they migrated up north t the american south west.
hats weird is that he can read any piece of incan, olmec, mayan, toltec, aztec, and local indian writing, and read it accurately even though he only knows english and hopi. He says that all the languages were connected.

SO on to UFO and things of that nature. While we were staying in Sedona, we were lodged in a motel that sits on the edge of the mesa that looks over sedona. behind us was the local airport which sits on the top of the mesa.

My sister and I were both about 12 or 14 at the time and were standing outside on the patio of the motel were staying at, enjoying the view of sedona, but more notably the view of the lightening storm that was happeneing over head. this was the weirdest storm I'd ever seen. there was not a cloud in the sky over head. miles away on the horizon there were storm clouds but not over sedona it's self. so we were watching these lightening bolts as they arced across the sky. it was an impressive show because behind the bolts were all the constellations and the milky way band a perfectly clear night, and sedona at the time wasn't too bright at night so the sky was perfect fr stargazing.

All of a sudden a group of stars bluish in color moderate in size was straight over head in the middle of the lightening storm. there were either 5 or 7 of them ,my sister and I agree that it was one of the two numbers, and they were in a formation. then they all winked out after about 15 seconds and then reappeared elsewhere in the sky a second later in the exact formation.
I got the impression that what I was looking at was only a few thousand feet in the air 10-20K maybe and somewhere directly over the skies of sedona.
The objects were probably orb like or saucer like and I could tell that they were individual craft and not some large super saucer because the stars were plainly visible through the center of the formation.

When I witnessed this I thought almost instantly "I didn't see that" then a half second later my sister said excitedly "did you just see that!!!" we looked at each other got the chills and ran back inside the Motel, locked shut the sliding glass door going out to the patio and closed the curtains. For the rest of the night I couldnt sleep thinking about what I saw and everything this hopi chief had told me. The next day I told the hopi chief and he just smiled and said that that was common around here and it wasn't anything to be worried about.

I also visited a few days later one of the more popular vortexes and could feel maybe a subtle little twinge of energy there, but it could have been a placebo effect.

Originally posted by Majorsetback
This thread is mostly directed to John Lear.



Back in '96 on my first trip out there I saw two CIA broncos traveling in the opposite direction towards verde valley near Boyton Canyon.

Most probably they were Developers...

Boynton Canyon and the drive in is to the north and VV is to the south.
The only connecting road is the main hyw 89A from Sedona to Cottonwood.

I met Tom Dongo there recently who is the UFO expert in the area and he had alot to tell me about where one of the secret entrances are to the underground facility. Also What do you know about the Cement factory in Cottonwood if anything?

Sedona doesn't have 'A' local UFO expert, we all take turns...

The Cement factory is situated at the foothills of Jerome, a known haunted location from back in the 1800's mining days.

It was built on the peripheral of the Yavapai Apache reservation in Clarkdale , adjacent to the Indian Smoke Shop and a very sweet little family community and elementary school.

It is horrible when they burn, and I hope that the laws have prevented them from doing it, I lived in Sedona, and the VV as well as in Clarkdale for many years.


As for the secret bases, who knows, people have admitted to running into men dressed in black uniforms carrying weapons, directing them to turn around and go back the way they came or be shot.

reply to post by theRiverGoddess

I think most people would realize that what I meant was that I underwent hypnosis while on Bell Rock.
While under hypnosis, I encountered inner earth people, ET's, and had past life recall.
After this experience,These things began occurring while in a conscious state.

I live in Phoenix and was just in Sedona two weeks ago to go camping. I chose a spot at the top of Schnebly Hill Road. Right when it started getting dark I looked up and noticed that the stars were beginning to come out. I pointed to one and said to the girl I was with "hey look, the first star of the night." Only to watch it for a few seconds as it slowly disappeared! We both looked at each other with astonishment and both asked "what the hell was that?" Throughout the night the same type of things happened at least two more times....looking at the stars only to notice some of them disappear. It was extremely strange, and I had never seen anything else like it. Anybody else had this type of experience around Sedona?

One of south entrances to the secret "UN" base can be seen below. The cars on the bottom left are all white UN trucks or vans. The pit with water on the top left was where the boring maching started. We believe the north entrance is somewhere in the Navajo Army dept. Most UFO activity is centered just north of here in Sycamore canyon area. Please see the links below for more detailed info regarding many of the military and UFO sightings in the area. We think this is a joint military and alien base of some kind.

Additional bits of info:
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I was in Sedona Az in around 1971,my best friends big brother had a commune there,all I remember were a bunch of burned out hippes there,although I want to camp out there next time I visit my son,when your 18 the only heavenly bodys you look for have legs on them lol

I've updated my findings regarding this base and its general location. I have been to Sedona AZ on a number of times trying to pinpoint the location of this base. Its in the Secret mountain/red rock wilderness near Sedona AZ. There is a known secret "UN" base near/in Sycamore Canyon. I have on past occasions also seen CIA broncos and unmarked black helicopters in the area. Many many UFO sightings have been reported in the area which I too have seen on two occasions.

I have recently found one entrance to this facility which I have posted below from Google Earth. The white cars on the bottom left are "UN" stamped vehicles which can be seen entering and exiting the area. The "lake" on the top left is where we believe the tunnel boring machine had a start point. Below I have posted additional accounts of sightings and accounts taken from this area. We believe that the north entrance to this base is located somewhere in the Navajo Army Dept near flagstaff. I have posted the south entrance for your review. We think the "UN" is just undercover for shadow gov't ops. We believe this is the mother of all Shadow gov't/alien bases. Enter at your own risk, it is in a very remote area and please brush up on the stories that I have posted below. THIS IS NO JOKE!
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ARIZONANS HUNT FOR BLACK HELICOPTER BASE

Persistent reports of black helicopters over Sedona, Arizona (population 7,720) have some local residents combing the nearby red rock canyons in search of a secret base.
Justin A. Tribble of Citizens for UN Base Disclosure (CUNBD) reported that Sedona, the site of a recent UFO encounter, had been visited by black helicopters several times since a flurry of overflights back in April.
On July 6, 1998, Justin reported on his website, the group came into possession of a document dated April 10, 1998 that refers to unusual military operations in the Sedona area.
In particular, the document mentions "operational bases in Verde Valley," "Area 38 in Casper (sic) Mountain," underground facilities near the towns of Hope and Parker, and "Operation White Sword Headquarters between Sterling and Sign (sic) Canyon."
CUNBD pointed out the areas are known locally as Casner Mountain and Bear Sign Canyon.
The group was recently contacted by a Sedona hairdresser named Diane, who wrote, "Do you know where Sycamore Canyon is? Going toward Cottonwood on U.S. Highway 89A, turn right on Loy Butte Road and go as far back as you can. Once you reach the base of the mountain, you have to find the first trail that goes up and over the mountain. From there, all I know is that the 'base' is in that little valley."
Diane told the group that a friend of hers, a 21-year- old local man known as "Hot Shot," had made the climb with some friends and some night vision equipment. "When they went out there, it was late at night, and there were black Humvees, and with their night vision equipment they could see the opening into the old volcano where they keep the black helicopters."
Tribble commented, "We assume the area she's referring to is Sycamore Pass...between Casner Mountain and Black Mountain. There is, in fact, a 'little valley' as she describes, beyond the pass that leads into Sycamore Canyon." (Many thanks to Justin A. Tribble and CUNBD for this news story.) (Editor's Comment: Although this sounds like the usual black helicopter hearsay, I found the reference to an "Operation White Sword" intriguing. Last month's NATO amphibious training exercise near Stephenville, Newfoundland, Canada had a component called Gold Sword 4___________________
beyond-the-illusion.com...
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[edit on 12-1-2009 by Majorsetback]

I visit Sedona occasionally, sad to see the UFO shop is long gone, that was my favorite shop to stop at, wonder if THEY took it out, it was ran by a cool dude that sold nothing but alien UFO trinkets and whatnot, I bought a toy UFO and a keychain, and all he wanted to know was if I had a UFO experience, now that I think of it, maybe his place was a set up to get information, but I don't think so, I asked him if he saw anything and he said he saw in Sedona itself, 2 flying saucers and a jet behind them, or was it 1 flying saucer and 2 jets, anyway, maybe there is a base but it's a small place, maybe outside sedona there could be something but I haven't seen anything resembling a base, as far as ley lines and vortexes, I don't believe that crap for a second, it's just an athsetically pleasing place and change of scenery drastically from anything else in AZ, thats why any locals and visitors alike would consider it 'magical', and for no other reason, tons of new agers sittin by the rocks with their crystals meditating eatin tofu tryin to find the lost chord telepathically douchin the place up.

Majorsetback,

Thanks for posting this information.

Please contact me ASAP.

-- Justin

Originally posted by kdial1
Hi there, I just wanted to let you know that Cottonwood/Conrville, AZ is my hometown. That Cement plant you are talking about is NO SECRET BASE. My best friends step-father owns the plant and I have been all over the facility, if you want to explore the facilty let me know and I will set it up for you. As far as Sedona goes, there are plenty of crazy theories from all the nut jobs out there. Some claim there is a UFO under "Bell rock"

To me Sedona is a hotspot for retired people and Crystal worshippers and vortexes. I have never seen any CIA vehicles in the area.

But I would like to let you know that John Mccains Ranch/house is inbetween Cottowood, AZ and Sedona, close to a place called Page Springs, Az. About 15 miles from Sedona. You may have seen these vehicles escorting John Mccain.

-Kdial1



[edit on 9-7-2008 by kdial1]

I too have been in and around Sadona alot... had some business with the tourist industry there.
The only thing strange about the place that I know of is the amount of Satanic people and activities going on , both ameteur ( crystals and tarot readings ) and professional ( CIA vehicles, you say ? ).

The spectre of that sick movie ' Hostel ' hangs over the area east of there, at some ranch - or, so I hear.

These people have an association with ' covens ' ( haha ) in Colorado Springs, and elsewhere.

That's all I know that's wierd, and I have never heard reliable first-hand accounts of sacrifices there, just thought I'd pass it along.

I used to frequent Sedona a lot. Haven't been up there alot in the past few years as the place is getting over crowded and the road construction is a nightmare.
I remember one of the locals telling me that about 15 years ago the govt buried huge coils in the vortexes and that it was in the local papers at the time.

OK , even though I have no information on aliens or UFOs around Sedona... I was intrigued by the second hand info presented in this thread.

A long time ago- I took a simple and short photo analysis course that was ground targeting oriented. I remember being told that it is often useful to trace power line courses and anomolies in order to find facilities.

Now, the computer I am on has no sophisticated aerial map function... but, I can see that a high-power transmission line moving west southwest north of the Sedona area seems to vanish from google earth at a point just north of Casper Mt. This is a rugged area of upper sycamore canyon. This is a preliminary, that's all.

Jerome Rd. intersects and follows ( at points ) the service road, which is clearly visible at fairly high ' altitude ' . The transmission line seems like a large one, and probably comes from the Holbrook-area coal burning plant.

This could be confirmed with a rough 4x4 drive, and a hike of only a mile or so... or, a flyover.

If this thing ( transmission line ) really does dissapear into the ground... then- you've got me convinced something really big is going on there. Thanks for the interesting thread.

[edit on 1-8-2009 by Skelkie3]

reply to post by uplander


There are numerous vortexes in Sedona. Some are easier to get to than others. I must warn any visitors to remember that going up is much easier than coming down. Even an elevation that appears small and is easy to climb becomes horse of a different color when you have to travel back down and have no way to see your foot and hand holds.

Also remember climbing a low elevation will normally take you four times longer to get down then it took you to climb up.

Good luck. The vortexes are indeed there and even if you don't find them the beauty of the place still makes it worth the trip.

Its rather unfortunate that this thread is so old, i started doing some research about a year ago(before i joined this site) and have since been trying to triangulate possible locations. I live in the area and have heard stories from trustworthy sources locally very similar to whats being reported here. I'm waiting for some warmer weather and some snow melt before i do a search of the area. Previously i have searched Sycamore canyon, due south of where i now believe i should be searching. If there is any more specific detail or personal accounts i hope to hear from you---thanks