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reply posted on 13-3-2007 @ 05:49 PM by DenyAllKnowledge
Originally posted by beckybecky

Arabs cant win wars.They are incredibly stupid.Even with a million man army and 800 ships they lost!

Amazing.

No wonder everyone looks down on them and they have to resort to suicide bombs and terrorism.


Classy statement!

Persians aren't Arabs, sure they had a few Arab mercenaries but it's unlikely they featured in Xerxes army. Some estimates put the "Spartan" force at 300 Spartans (the Spartans didn't like taking too many soldiers away from the Peloponnese since they were paranoid about their slaves rebelling), about 2200 Tegeans,Mantineans and Arcadians. 700 Thespians, 400 Thebans, 1000 Phocians and more than 1000 Malisians and others. Most pro-Hellenic estimates put the force at around 7000, easily enough to defend a narrow pass (with the added protection of the hastily repaired Phocian wall) against insurmountable odds.

Some historians regard the "Greek traitor" story as myth, fabricated to make the story all the more tragic as well as the Persians appear incapable of winning a battle without the help of a renegade Greek.

All in all the last stand of Leonidas and his men was a wasted gesture, the Persians cleared the pass and the only reason the invasion failed was primarily due to mistakes the Persians made..... "Greek Valour" had little to do with it.

Anyway, the Spartans turned up too late for Platea, and were happy to ally with Persia during the Peloponnesian war.

I must say that I agree that the film has come out at a rather sensitive time, as well as looking pretty homoerotically charged (like good old fashioned fascist cinema!).



reply posted on 13-3-2007 @ 07:56 PM by zurvan
Some posts on this thread are quite ignorant.
Remember that history is written by victors and victors usually vilinise their enemy! Western history is based on Greek history which is seperate to Persian history. At recongnise the Persian history to to some extend.

Empires and nations did rage wars in the past hell they still do. When Russia fought Europe. When France and England fought and When Us and England were fighting( over independence) was one side necessary evil and the other good?

This is the ancient capital of Persia destroyed by Alexander.

Persepolis - Takht Jamshid - short video

Persian history and Persepolis and Alexander video with comentary

Again to people on this board who call all middle easterns Arabs well it is kinda like calling all Europians I don't know Finish!( no offence to Finland)

Iran is mainly non arab only 5% is Arab. and no don't worry there won't be any violent protests. I think what Iranians are saying is why is it that some ot the good stories don't get publicity? nothing wrong with this movie but where is the otherside to balance it out?

Storys like the book of the kings



khayyam



BTW from the first time that I saw the previews I have been interested to see the movie and will go as soon as it comes out.


[edit on 13-3-2007 by zurvan]


reply posted on 13-3-2007 @ 09:15 PM by Cthulwho
I hope they bring out a movie based on the Battle of Tours (Battle of Poiters) next, then we can point the finger and say "they started it!".
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