Bob Lazar and Element 115, page 3
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reply posted on 13-3-2007 @ 07:53 PM by danx
Originally posted by TheStev
That doesn't seem quite right Diplomat. I think what you're saying is true, but John is referring to synthesis - not natural occurrence.


Of course Element 115 has to be synthesized, since it does not exist naturally (at least on earth).

If you look at the
Periodic table, you will notice plenty of elements that only exist if synthesized (the ones in the dotted boxes), but that doesn't mean they can't be synthesized successfully for an application in the 'real world'.

Now if John Lear is saying that we don't have ways of synthesizing element 115 for use in a motor/engine/power source for space travel, then I'm sure he has his reasons and will enlighten us all with the explanation for such


reply posted on 13-3-2007 @ 07:59 PM by thetk421
I am personally not a particle physicist (although it would be nice ), but one did take a look at Lazar's claims:
www.serve.com...

Basically, all I was able to get out of that article, is that everything Lazar says goes against everything we have ever known or theorized about relating to physics! He could always be right, and established science wrong (flat earth), but they did have proof of their claims, something that beyond what supposedly "exists" and has been seen by only a select few people. It could be disinformation, but unless the government has been able to alter everything about physics in the past decades, just to cover this up, I am led to believe this scientist who can confirm his existence, and attendance at a university. Furthermore, if Lazar is right, and understands all of this, why not just leave the country and publish his findings? Even if the government "got to him" hopefully he could collect his Nobel prize before that.

I have a very open mind, and I do think that quite a bit of what is talked about on this site is true, or at least close to the real truth, but I can't grasp while the government would need to cover this up, when Lazar is doing a fine job of discrediting himself. But beyond that, I don't have the most stellar memory some of the time, yet I am rather confident that I could remember teaching or meeting such a supposedly brilliant student. And more than that, I would love to see the technology that can change yearbooks from the past, because I am sure that there are A LOT of happy parents out there who bought a yearbook (or books) because their child attended one of these prestigious institutes, and they now have no picture of Lazar in them... unless his future had been planned out from the start.

Until I see the degree, and hear his acceptance speech for the Nobel prize in Physics due to these findings and incredible new theories, or even just proof from more than 5 people, I can't get passed the facts.

Take care,
Pat


reply posted on 13-3-2007 @ 08:19 PM by johnlear
A word about Element 115 from the Lazar Tape (1989):

Naturally occurring element 115 could only be found in a solar system much, much larger than ours. The 2 main factors which determine the residual matter that remains after the creation of that solar system is the amount of electromagnetic energy and the amount of mass present at the time of the creation of that solar system. A much larger solar system than the one earth is in would have had to have been created to have element 115 occurring as a natural element. No, there is no possiblility that the aliens are mining it here or we are making it here.

A word about Element 118:

NEWS-Scientific American

July 17, 2002
Element 118 Dropped from Periodic Table


Scientists at Lawrence Berkeley
National Laboratory (LBL) have formally
retracted their claims for the
discovery of the most massive chemical
element. The synthesis of the
"superheavy" element 118, comprising
118 protons and 175 nucleons, was
announced in a 1999 paper in Physical
Review Letters. The results appeared to
confirm theories from the 1970s that
predicted heightened stability for
nuclei containing around 114 protons
and 184 neutrons.

The retraction, published in the
current Physical Review Letters,
follows failures to reproduce the
reported results by the Berkeley
researchers and also by scientists in
Germany and Japan. After re analysis of
the original data using different
software codes, the team was forced to
admit that their evidence for element
118 was spurious, prompting all but one
of the original paper=s authors to
endorse the retraction.

The initial results had been seen as an
early success for the newly constructed
Berkeley Gas filled Separator (BGS).
The team bombarded a lead 208 target
with neutron rich krypton 86 ions, in
an 88 inch Cyclotron, creating heavy
compound nuclei. They then used strong
magnetic fields in the BGS to separate
the putative element 118 ions. The
Berkeley lab is not currently answering
questions about how the
misidentification process occurred, but
some media outlets have reported
falsification of the results by one
team member.

The original announcement came soon
after the successful production of
element 114 by scientists at Russia=s
Joint Institute for Nuclear Research in
Dubna , in January 1999. LBL
researchers believed that their newly
formed element 118, dubbed "ununoctium"
(meaning one one eight), radioactively
decayed within milliseconds, to create
the element 116 also never previously
synthesized. Since then, the Russian
scientists have used a different method
to reproduce element 116, but at least
for now, element 118 must remain
crossed off the Periodic Table. Zeeya
Merali


reply posted on 13-3-2007 @ 09:49 PM by metalmessiah
"Lazar told us he previously worked at Los Alamos National Lab. The lab repeatedly denied it, even after we found Lazar's name in the lab phone book."
www.klas-tv.com...

just curious if Knapp ever offered up anything tangible to back this up? where do you find a LANL phone directory? if he can show proof of this I will be on board with Lazar 100%.
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