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Has world opinion changed on ET's and UFO's?

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posted on Mar, 13 2007 @ 04:10 AM
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The status quo seems to be that only "crack pots" belive in such things, but i've heard recent polls show the majority of americans now belive in UFO's.
If this is the case what then of the common appologist comment for government cover ups "we can't tell people because they would panic".

What are peoples thoughts?




posted on Mar, 13 2007 @ 04:40 AM
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Yeah, I noticed the shift to. It's one of convenience, and flits about like a ribbon in the wind.

What it is doing for the public at large right now, is explaining what can't be easily defined. Certain cases have come about that defy rational explanation, and the govt's throwing of meandering, plausibilities (which I find laughable) isn't covering up as well for the many. At least, not as well as it does for those issuing such claims.

Favorite quote I overheard concerning one of the cases I speak of:

"Ma'am. About him. In this picture. I forgot the "stuff". I don't know what the Hell I am doing. And I ain't #."



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 01:27 PM
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What I've found interesting, most within the disinfo circle estimate 20%+ convergence, while trying to hide the fact it will most likely be roughly 45% or better.

There will be a re-emergence of a sighting, which is not well explained to this day. Other than balloons. What's with that, anyway. Balloons, celebratory tassels, impromptu speeches concerning "incidents"; one big tax-paid party!



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 03:04 PM
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With more exposure to serious treatment of the subject...more people are apt to have an open mind.

However, having an open mind, and COMMUNICATING this to others, is a completely different thing. In an anonymous survey, it's easy to be honest, but when talking with friends, co-workers, etc., taking a pro-UFO stance may not be a great idea....

I've never been of the opinion that "panic" is the reason for a government coverup. More likely, it's a combination of several factors.

1. Would you want your constituents knowing that though you are charged with protecting their skies (and receive billions to do so), you can't seem to stop these others from invading airspace at will?

2. The introduction of advanced et tech could upset many key industries, and perhaps even whole economies seemingly overnight, resulting in possible war, famine, unemployment, etc.

3. Unknown beings mean unknown motives, why the secrecy? why the decades of observation? Coverup or not, they may not know much more than we do.

4. Lastly, while religion is a small part of life in the west, in other areas, it IS life, not just a part. You do have to consider somewhat what a complete denial of faith could do to some, when such faith is all they know and revere. This could lead some to rash acts that cannot even be speculated.



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 06:58 PM
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Originally posted by Tokyo Rose
The status quo seems to be that only "crack pots" belive in such things, but i've heard recent polls show the majority of americans now belive in UFO's.
If this is the case what then of the common appologist comment for government cover ups "we can't tell people because they would panic".

What are peoples thoughts?


Can you point me to those polls? I would really like to see evidence of this shift in beliefs!



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
With more exposure to serious treatment of the subject...more people are apt to have an open mind.

However, having an open mind, and COMMUNICATING this to others, is a completely different thing. In an anonymous survey, it's easy to be honest, but when talking with friends, co-workers, etc., taking a pro-UFO stance may not be a great idea....


For the most part I agree with your outline of reasons for secrecy, however I don't exactly see why religion plays such an important role!

Although I am not a very religious person and not well educated in world religions I don't see why the two cannot coexist! If anything the old testament has vague references to extra-terrestials and universal knowledge.

Wouldn't it be so much better if we all just abondened our religious sects and just believed in God or a supreme being?! Yeah this might sound like masonry to some people but perhaps they are on the right track and others should follow!



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 07:15 PM
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Aliens dont exist. Crop circles are caused by humans. Love the goverment and you will be safe.



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 08:11 PM
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I have felt the same thing, the tide seems to be shifting towards more people believing or at least admitting to the "possibility" that UFO's exist.
here is a poll that I was able to dig up, i seemed to remember one from Fox news some time back but i could be mistaken.. in any case heres one that i found.
I really would like to find one that is more recent because i believe the numbers would be maybe a lil bit higher. this one was ran in 1997

CNN Alien Poll







Originally posted by SocialistAgenda

Originally posted by Tokyo Rose
The status quo seems to be that only "crack pots" belive in such things, but i've heard recent polls show the majority of americans now belive in UFO's.
If this is the case what then of the common appologist comment for government cover ups "we can't tell people because they would panic".

What are peoples thoughts?


Can you point me to those polls? I would really like to see evidence of this
shift in beliefs!




[edit on 15-3-2007 by Kr0n0s]



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 08:20 PM
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Sorry for the back to back posts but here is a more recent story with some numbers, from Fox News.


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This is a partial transcript from "The O'Reilly Factor," January 13, 2006, that has been edited for clarity.

Watch "The O'Reilly Factor" weeknights at 8 p.m. and 11 p.m. ET and listen to the "Radio Factor!"

BILL O'REILLY, HOST: In the "Back of the Book" segment tonight, according to a FOX News/Opinion Dynamics poll, 55 percent of the American public believes the government is likely withholding information about UFO's. And 24 percent of Americans believe aliens have actually visited this planet.

In the Czech Republic, according to a 1999 poll, 62 percent believe extraterrestrials exist, more than believe in God! Czech Republic.

Joining us now from Houston are two American believers, Donna and Clayton Lee.

OK. According to the notes that I have here, both of you said that you were abducted by aliens. Now, Donna, when you — when people hear that, their first reaction is that you're a nut, all right? And, I mean, do you want people to know that? I mean, why not just keep it to yourself?

(Story continues below)


That is just a portion of the story, for the entire story please go Here

[edit on 15-3-2007 by Kr0n0s]



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 08:23 PM
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The goverment hides nothing from you.



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 08:23 PM
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The goverment hides nothing from you.



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 08:32 PM
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98 per cent Indians polled believe in extraterrestrial life
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well, it was working earlier...but since it no longer is (for some reason) which is weird since it's a Canadian news papers website. i guess i'll write an over view.

Baasicly 98% believe it exists
78 per cent believe that 'gods' were ancient alien visitors

Sixty nine percent of those polled believed that extraterrestrial intelligence is already present on the Earth. Regarding where else in the Solar System life was most likely - 45 per cent say Mars, 32 per cent say Europa (a moon of Jupiter, which has an underground liquid water ocean which contains more water than that present on earth), 17 per cent say Titan ( a moon of Saturn, with a thick atmosphere much like Earth in the primordial days).

Another interesting result is that 51 per cent of those polled believe that intelligent extraterrestrial life that is more advanced technologically than us will also be more spiritually advanced than humans, 10 per cent say that they will not be more spiritually advanced, 10 per cent were undecided and 29 per cent say that technological development and spiritual development are in no way connected to each other.


[edit on 15-3-2007 by Tibris]



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 08:42 PM
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It worked for me.


Edit: And I think that's kinda.... fascinating.
I had no idea Indians (the dot kind ^~) were like that.

[edit on 15-3-2007 by Drexon]



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 08:56 PM
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LMFAO @ "The DOT kind"



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 09:36 PM
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Thanks for the links! The numbers are certainly very interesting and I am truely amazed however if so many people believe in this stuff then why is it still a big taboo to talk about it


And I am not talking about discussing this on ATS where people are more receptive but in society in general! I would never dare talk about Ufos with friends and if I did I would probably lose them!



posted on Mar, 15 2007 @ 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by SocialistAgenda
Thanks for the links! The numbers are certainly very interesting and I am truely amazed however if so many people believe in this stuff then why is it still a big taboo to talk about it


And I am not talking about discussing this on ATS where people are more receptive but in society in general! I would never dare talk about Ufos with friends and if I did I would probably lose them!


That's a good question. Although amongst most of my friends it's no longer Taboo (I broke that along time ago) I think it's one of those things that no one wants to be the first to talk about, but once it's opened for discussion everyone wants to put in their two cents. I know that ghosts are that way too, I remember in 7th grade My teacher let me look up ghost stuff online with my friend, All of a sudden everyone was gathered around telling true ghost stories that have happened to them, or their parents. Most of these kids were the preppy, jocky type that at any other time would've sneered at me and told me to # off.



posted on Mar, 16 2007 @ 02:53 AM
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Thats a good question and I wish I knew why it is still a "taboo" topic.
I have never actually lost any friends due to my beliefs but if i did i would not fret to much about it, i wouldnt want to be friends with a person that would end a friendship because of something like that anyway.
Now having said that, there are some that I talk about it with and there are some that i do not talk about it with. Thats only because it is a topic that they arent interested in. Just like I wouldnt talk football with a person who isnt a football fan etc...
I have a 13 year old son and we discuss these things all the time, both him and his sister, my daughter (9) seen "something" a couple of years ago while they were at their moms. Also when we lived in Idaho, the house we lived in was occupied lol, everyone in the home, including my son and my older brother, saw the same shadow figures several times a month.
My son knows it is taboo though and doesnt really talk about it among his friends, my daughter on the other hand, she will mention it to anyone that will listen LoL



posted on Mar, 16 2007 @ 05:25 AM
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no we shuold tell the whole world so theyll panic but protection if theres an alien invasion



posted on Mar, 16 2007 @ 05:33 AM
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Big Budget=Taboo[OFF]

To be funny, if there were a project that was to deal with the interfacing of ETs within mainstream society, and its consequences, many would turn off their disbelief in the interest of monetary gain.

I've actually seen this on a remote scale: within the discipline of the mind-setters. Where it was speculated that some freak of nature, experiment in bad effects, what have you was also speculated as being totally foreign. Many debunkers turned and wrote out a plethora of books on the phenomenon and even helped revamp Exobiology, with an emphasis on ETs possible logical constructs. Interesting, is it not?



posted on Mar, 16 2007 @ 07:29 AM
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Carefull how you read statistics...



In the Czech Republic, according to a 1999 poll, 62 percent believe extraterrestrials exist, more than believe in God! Czech Republic.


Even most scientists believe in extraterrestrial life, but believing in et intelligent life, or that such life is visiting us, are completely different questions which likely have completely different statistics....

Statistics are also a large function of your chosen demographic, so without knowing that, it's hard to put it into perspective....

Not saying it's incorrect, but just pointing out that there are LOTS of ways to twist statistics to one's own ends...so be carefull...



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