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Originally posted by EarthSister
Seen the Future
Collier's claims directly contradict what I have learned for myself from my own experiences, meetings and discussions with many alien races, including those who Collier makes his claims about. This should not be such a difficult answer to understand just because you don't believe it.
My suggestion for you and for all, is not to believe anybody, but to just find out for yourself.
I work closest with the members of 30 races and have met with as many more. One single race that visits Earth is "The Grays" and none of the drawings on my site are that race. The Grays are a fine race who bear the worst of the professional slander held against all other life. None of the races visiting Earth are 'evil' or have any mal intentions for humanity.
Some actual abduction accounts are true. Most are professionally fabricated and/or exaggerated in deed and in numbers. A few races were abusing humans, including The Grays, and now no abuse of any humans by any alien races is happening at all due to the efforts of the organization of visiting races.
All consensual contact between the alien races and their human contacts has always gone on and always will.
Everyone who has the opportunity for contact with alien life is born with it, and has their own choice to make whether to accept it and continue with it. Our children have already learned a great deal from their alien contacts and they make their own decisions about whether to continue.
Originally posted by Seen the Future
Originally posted by Diplomat
EarthSister you're probably lying also. How can you call another contactee's claims lies when you nor them have any proof or evidence of your encounters whatsoever? If I remember correctly, you are one of those people who claim to talk to Aliens and all of that B.S. If that guy is a liar, then so are you...
[edit on 15-3-2007 by Diplomat]
Now, now, nobody has to call her a liar... she might be exactly what she says she is and do exactly what she says she does (or at least think so)... but I am curious to know how she can refute Mr. Collier's claims so categorically. The darkness on this planet comes from people subscribing to absolute belief systems and closing themselves off to everything else. Your heart must always be an open book.
Originally posted by Turiddu
reply to post by thrashee
Amazing right? Even in topics where videos/photos/stories are clearly debunked you still find people ignoring all evidence and believing the nonsense. Some people just need to believe in the fantastic/paranormal I guess. The fact that the universe might be just as "normal" as science tells us is something they can't comprehend. Personally, I find the latest astronomical findings and their implications far more inspiring than any of these ridiculous stories of "predictions", "reptilians", "Nordic aliens" etc...
Originally posted by EarthSister
From all I know from my own lifelong experiences with the organization of races visiting Earth, Alex Collier is absolutely lying. He is not just making mistakes in understanding that are common to those telling the truth about their own experiences- he is outright fabricating a sensational diversion.
I have not looked over much of his material to form an opinion of what his motivation may be, or whether it is personal or professional, but its only affect can be to perpetuate public confusion.
I answered the request and the subject of this thread based on my own independent experience and knowledge- not based on all the various conflicting people and things you hear and read about. I recognize your point of view, but still have to speak strictly from my own point of view, not yours or anybody else's.
Of course you can't tell that Alex Collier is lying because you have no personal way of knowing the truth for yourself first
Alex Collier is absolutely lying.
Most of the material you ever come across about alien life is either original professional fabrication or a personal collage of popular fabrications. Copious disinformation is professionally created and disbursed undercover through the grapevines as a deluge to the truth, and then adopted and recycled by believers.
This manipulation of public belief and opinion is equally applied against the individual humans who have true personal knowledge and information to share with others about the alien races.