Originally posted by magicmushroom
Just for a change how about leaving the political trumpet at home and speak as a human being.
- If you're going to debate the politics of the situation then you have to at least stay with the facts.
That's why context and historical precedent matter.
It's also why I'll challenge silly rhetoric like claiming a £10 short-haul flight duty or a £20 long-haul flight duty are something new or a case
of anyone being taxed to death.
Ditto an incorrect assertion that the majority here are being taxed at 50%+.
I've told you a million times, do not exaggerate.
You also make it sound as if those taxes you listed are new, they are not (and rates have been increased under this Gov - in the case of inheritance
tax, perhaps surprisingly, to the point where only 6% of estates are liable......so how come you list some of these as taxes you'll pay when the
likelihood is you'll not have anything to do with it, hmmmm?
You're going out of your way to feel a victim of parts of the tax regime when you're almost certainly not, mm.
What capital gains are you likely to pay......unlike much of Europe we don't even count sky-rocketing property values as a capital gain - and suffer
the consequences of it out of control and unchecked)......
......and it's not much of a surprise to me to see that you continue to completely ignore the unique levels of assistance this Gov gives to those
less well off in the form of tax credits for those in work and with children.
Why do you think the supposed 'backlash' the tory press were hoping for last week has turned into, at best, an indifferent shrug by the public?
Is anyone so childishly deluded to imagine there were never any 'winners' and 'losers' with a tory budget!?
Such is the 'level' our tory press operates at.
The only choices are the ones on offer.
Whilst I have my own personal criticisms of what is done and what is going on I see no value in agreeing with unrealistic or inaccurate versions of
I prefer my politics grounded in the reality of how things are now and how things are when compared to how they once were.
That way one can usually see (any) real progress or otherwise and dismiss a lot of the 'flannel' spoken about it all.
The truth is that far from this being a relatively high tax Gov this one is, in fact, by any recent and fair comparison, not.
You might like to check out the tax rates under the whole period of the last tory Gov
(and try not to 'cherry pick' their best 2yrs as representative of the whole).
As I said mm, it was the tory philosophy that shifted so much of the tax burden on to indirect taxation claiming that at least one could choose to buy
or not those goods carrying VAT.
That thoery got a bit sticky when it came to essential things like fuel for the home but then it was this Gov that reduced that VAT the tories had
imposed on housegold fuels to 5% (instead of the then tory level of VAT @ 15%).
You might want to call that 'support' or "trumpeting" for a political POV but IMO it is merely a sensible checking of the truth of how the current
situation arose and saying how it is.
That is IMO the intelligent, adult, clear and sober way to judge and debate these things.
[edit on 25-3-2007 by sminkeypinkey]