"They" gave me cancer

Originally posted by CaptainLazy
I'm sorry, but I find it illogical that they would choose to give you cancer when theres so many other things they could do. I'm not even sure 'giving' someone cancer is possible.

IMHO all you have to do is get a way to disactivate the mitochondria in cells. We all have cancer cells at all times, but these cells are usually kept in check by mitochondria. Mitochondria usually kill off (or disactivate) cells that are anaerobic. All cancer cells are anaerobic; which means that they don't use oxygen as a source of energy. If you stop the function of mitochondria within the cells you have a much increased chance of getting cancer. Now how they would be able to do that, I wouldn't know.

I grew up on the east end, about an hour from Montauk and spend some time there every summer. Strange things happen out on the east end all the time.

there's a supposed UFO crash over Moriches Inlet, there's the rumor that the Pine Barrens Fire back in the 90's was a result of a downed craft, Philadelphia Experiment, alien sightings etc.

Montauk is also a short boat ride to Plum Island which is rumored to be the source of Lime Disease and was one of the bases where the paperclip scientists were sent to work, in this case on biological issues.

It makes sense to put your most dangerous facilities (Plum Island and possibly Hero) on the very tip of Long Island. Check the map and you will see that they are situated in a manner that makes isolation relatively easy although the Plum Island gang didn't know that deer can swim and this is the reason it is now believed by some that Lime Disease came from deer that took the swim acroos the Sound

W.O.S. I don't recommend breaking into that, or any, military facility but if you plan on doing so, might I suggest you give Dan's a call and talk to Dan about some of the things his paper has reported on in the past.

Dan Rattinner is the founder and publisher and one of the reporters. His paper covers all the crap that goes on out east but he always has a story mixed in that is unexplained or strange. Does he believe it? Don't know but he reports it.

www.danspapers.com...

I want to thank each of you for your repiles. I can understand why some people are skeptical. I have had this idea in my head for quite a long time. But I do think it is possible. We started going to the base in 1999, we underwent some kind of surveilance and 5 years later I had the tumor. The tumor that they said was large enough that it had been growing for years. Coincidence? The base was still closed to the public at the time.

Maybe they were using experimental technology, and just wanted to see if they could do it? I don't know.

I am sorry I got so angry when I was posting last night I should have never said "What do I have to lose" or anything like that. I am surrounded by people who love me, and I am very optimistic about my own future.

I do not think I will be cutting into that tunnel, or breaking into that house at any rate. If they are hiding something under the radar, and I think they are, I am quite certain it is worth my life to them to keep it a secret.

EDIT: Spelling

[edit on 3-12-2007 by William One Sac]

I personally think that weird noise in those answering machine messages may have had some effect on you. "They" wouldn't just put random beeping noises in the message if it wasn't intended to have some sort of effect. There must have been a purpose behind that noise, because you're dealing with people way up there, not some incompetant newbies.

I know it sounds kind of crazy, but most of the other incidences of this story probably sound crazy to most people as well. This is one of the reasons I have decided not to listen to the recordings of the phone messages myself.

If the answering messages weren't meant to cause cancer, I'm at least sure they were meant to do something else. Whether they were subliminal messages, an attempt at mind control, or what is anybody's guess though.


And I think you are wise to not try and gain entry to the tunnel. If it is as important and mysterious as you say, there are likely armed guards at both ends of the tunnel. However, you could always do a stakeout and try to determine how frequently (if ever) you see people going into and coming out of the house. They might hassle you for sitting there all day, but they certainly won't kill you over it.

What puzzles me is why they made that tunnel so obvious. Couldn't they have dug down another two feet and had it completely concealed?

[edit on 12-3-2007 by Yarcofin]

yeah, there's definitely some strange stuff going on. i live in westchester, about an hour and a half away, and there's a base near me called camp smith. there's weird stuff going on here too; i see black helicopters flying over real low every few hours. even at weird hours, like 2-3am, i'll be woken up by a fleet of 3-4 helicopters flying overhead. i see chemtrails all the time too, sometimes in obvious grid patterns, and non-commercial planes flying VERY low.. sometimes in groups!

Perhaps your cancer was naturally occuring (although it's never entirely natural)...but people are diagnosed every day, and I don't think it was "given" to them as you think yours was.

Also, men should request colonostomies when they reach the age of 40, not 50 like that commercial sais.

It seems our government is not above russian style assasination attempts W.O.S.These bastards will pay for their treachery one day,hopefully.sidenote,i was raised and lived on long island until i moved 5 years ago.until i found this site i had no idea what evil was taking place there.thank you for opening my eyes to these people and your health shall be in my thoughts.I wonder if an attempt to lobby the local media would accomplish anything...

[edit on 12-3-2007 by Xfile]

WOS,

With all due respect, why give u cancer. I mean, there are much faster and efficent ways of killing/stopping you from talking.

You could have a car accident-they happen everyday.

You could have a heart attack, they happen everyday.

They could track and threaten/harm your family and friends.

I am not saying you are wrong, i just don't see the logic in it.
I don't believe there has been a public attempt at discrediting you personally-like they did with bob lazar.

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
WOS,

With all due respect, why give u cancer. I mean, there are much faster and efficent ways of killing/stopping you from talking.

Maybe they didnt want faster or efficient ways, maybe they wanted to be cruel, maybe they always wanted him to wonder and for others to doubt him.

Maybe it wasnt about stopping him talking, maybe they already sorted that because Im sorry, but nothing WOS has said or posted has changed the world or Them.

If it means anything, youre in my prayers WOS.

God speed William, I would like to help you as I go to school in upstate NY and live in the area. Where exactly is Montauk (on a map that is)?

You are a bold fellow William One Sack. I marvel at your daring to go into that Camp Hero area on your own. That took guts. If anybody can beat cancer its someone like you.

I read a bit of the thread about the wierd telephone call. I thought that perhaps those towers that you saw may have been used to manipulate or over-ride the normal communications system and gain control of your recording machine. They also may have generated the loud buzzing noise that you heard, may have been used to trace any other calls made to you such as the one by MM.

My prayers and best wishes to you, William One Sac.

Glenn

Originally posted by mrmonsoon
With all due respect, why give u cancer. I mean, there are much faster and efficent ways of killing/stopping you from talking.

You could have a car accident-they happen everyday.

You could have a heart attack, they happen everyday.

They could track and threaten/harm your family and friends.

No one questions cancer. But people do question things like car crashes. And if they threaten your family and friends then it's waaayyy obvious something dodgy is going down. As I said, no one questions cancer.

Not that I believe they gave you cancer though. But the telephone noises thing is a bit strange, maybe some subliminal messaging type thing?

The digestive system is perhaps one of the most vulnerable parts of our bodies. Even a slight imbalance in E. coli can really wreck us. Whenever someone mentions any part of it from one end to the other, the first thing I tend to blame is food/water. My state is #1 in cancer (lucky me) and many biologist around here blame the water. Ironically enough, we have a lot of biology companies here probably dumping waste into the local water.

The reason why I'd put radiowaves last is a few reasons. They're low frequency, pretty weak and are generally blocked by clothing, let alone the skin. Taking daily treatments of x-rays however, one would more than likely end up the same way Madam Curie did. Microwaves are still under debate, from what I understand. I don't like them, but everyone says that holding a cell-phone next to your head won't give you cancer on or in the head. I disagree...I don't see how you can put your ear to a microwave oven and not get malignant melanoma, but I'm no PhD.

TheBandit795 had some good things to say about how cancer cells develop without mitochondria checks.

What is the "age of cancer"? Well, there isn't one. There's only probabilities based on genetic heritage, location, food/water/air quality, that are factors in getting cancer. Probabilities can be helpful, but we're all rolling dice hoping not to get that rare number...

"Wilms tumor is a cancer that may affect one or both kidneys. It is most often found in children between 2 and 3 years old." ( www.cancer.org... )

There are many, many more types like this.

God bless William, I hope you make a full recovery.


[edit on 12-3-2007 by saint4God]

Can somone please explain WTF this place is, why you want to destroy it, what its for, and who runs it? I can't seem to find anything explaining it...

Its called Camp Hero where Project Montauk during WW2 was experimented at in New York state:

www.subversiveelement.com...

I get it now. So this is a place that studies the 'dark sciences' as I call them (Manipulating time, space, and the biology of creatures etc). I am intriguied by this place. I'm only 14 now, but when I get into college I'm going to become a photojournalist as a profession. If I could find out whats really going on in there, man...I'd be famous >.> This is very interesting. The perfect soldier? Time travel? It could just be some urban legends, or it could be the real thing. I'm more inclined to think it IS the real thing. Sure enough, if I or anyone else could find out, it would be revolutionary I'm sure. Especially with pictures...

besides the pixelated proposed "reptilianoid of rectus prime", what in any of these pictures suggest anything other than an underground bunker? I really enjoyed the linked presentation, but beyond ventilation shafts and reinforced tunnels, there wasn't much to suggestion of fantastical claims of interplanetary diplomacy, mind-control experiments, or remote intracellular biological manipulation. Am I missing something here? By the way, I bet there was asbestos in those old houses (which causes cancer) and mangy bacterias hiding out in those underground deteriorating rooms.

From the Camp Hero link:

As I understand it, the orbs in the photos are caused by out of focus dust particles.

Asbestos dust particles? I'd want a bio-suit for even taking the tour.

People may be exposed to asbestos in their workplace, their communities, or their homes. If products containing asbestos are disturbed, tiny asbestos fibers are released into the air. When asbestos fibers are breathed in, they may get trapped in the lungs and remain there for a long time. Over time, these fibers can accumulate and cause scarring and inflammation, which can affect breathing and lead to serious health problems (6).

Asbestos has been classified as a known human carcinogen (a substance that causes cancer) by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the EPA, and the International Agency for Research on Cancer (2, 3, 7, 8). Studies have shown that exposure to asbestos may increase the risk of lung cancer and mesothelioma

www.cancer.gov...

Here's something else to fear from the Camp Hero link:

There is also an understandable fear of ticks with the park. The place is infested with them, and there is a Lyme Disease --
--epidemic associated with them. In fact during some summers, the incidence of walking through high grass and bushes without adequate protection in the form of clothing, and contracting Lyme Disease is so high that to do so is a fool hardy risk to take.

A friend of mine contracted it. It is not fun.

Oh and Gooey, I have a bridge I wanna sell ya

[edit on 12-3-2007 by saint4God]

It's sad to hear WOS and I wish you well.

Try to get yourself on a raw diet. I have friends that are survivors of various forms of cancer and the one thing they all have in common is their diet of just raw foods.

Never give up.... your mind is capable of remarkable things.

For all those who want to know more about this project look on Google Video ( The Montauk Project) where you can view an interview with Preston Nicholls and Duncan Cameron. Nicholls is a radio receiver specialist and Cameron is a remote viewer/ psychic. Both claim to have been involved in The Philadelphia Experiment (making the USS Eldridge disappear) and then, later on mind control.

Ed Bielek was also involved and his interviews can be downloaded also.

Ther is also a DVD by Stewart Swerdlow '' Montauk and the Language of Hyperspace'' and his book'' Montauk:The Alien Connection''

All these individuals seem extremely genuine and credible to me but dont take my word for it watch and judge for yourselves.

As for cancer - just read Dr Steven Greers book ''Hidden Truth - Forbidden Knowledge''. Now there is one hell of a brave man. He heads up The Disclosure Project which aims to educate the public about the reality of our extraterrestrial visitors and how the truth has been supressed for decades.

Best wishes WOS. Please give white powder Gold a try. One supplier is Pureganic Mineral Company but there are others.

Ask the Cosmos for help. This together with Gamma Knife / Cyber Knife and chemotherapy has kept my mother alive for over 10 years despite having Stage IV lung and brain cancer.