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Topic started on 11-3-2007 @ 06:17 PM by planeman


Well if they'd let me design it it'd look so much cooler, seriously. Cool is the new black.

My epic struggle with commonsense and the MS Paint, has taken another turn for the worse since I last shared my pretty pictures of conceptual aircraft and things military. So without further ado let the geekery continue!


Stealth STOL fightter with much larger internal weapons bay that F-22, almost as cool as the Rautenflugel, almost!





And a 3D model of my design built by someone else:



Now tell me that isn't a cool kite!

[edit on 11-3-2007 by planeman]



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reply posted on 11-3-2007 @ 06:22 PM by waynos


That is beautiful planeman, and the old joined wings too, they've never looked cooler. The engines look a bit old hat though, at least a striking resemblance to the RB199 on the nozzles of that 3d rendering that is streaking away!

I'd love to see it done in plastic.



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reply posted on 11-3-2007 @ 06:58 PM by planeman



Originally posted by waynos
That is beautiful planeman, and the old joined wings too, they've never looked cooler. The engines look a bit old hat though, at least a striking resemblance to the RB199 on the nozzles of that 3d rendering that is streaking away!

I'd love to see it done in plastic.


Cheers I think that there should be an internationally recognised rating for aircraft coolness from 1-10, where 1 is Boeing 737 and 10 is the Rautenflugel. This is a 9.3 I think.


The 3D model is slightly different from what I had in mind especially the rear fuselage, but it's cool anyway. The Engines are Al-31s cos as usual I'm designing with Chinese equipment in mind (Sinodefence). It was originally intended as a carrier fighter but the wing fold is a bit of a challenge...

Here's a related design more for interdiction and strike:


Do you hang out at www.whatifmodelers.com/forum/ it seems your sort of place.



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reply posted on 11-3-2007 @ 08:14 PM by Jezza


At least it fly's.

anyone can draw a plane, all the good ones work for aircraft
Manufactures and probably draw thousands of concepts.
Sounds like Raptor bashing to me.
Eurofighter would be boring in concept rather than the Raptor




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reply posted on 12-3-2007 @ 03:47 AM by waynos


Yes I do visit there, I've posted a few models of my own too, but not as many as I'd like as I don't have the time.

With the interdictor it looks like a bit of a CG nightmare with the wings out, have you considered allowing the pivots to move aft as the wing sweep decreases? This might mitigate the trim change.

Here is the crudest diagram in the world to illustrate my thought. Of course the big question would be 'how to?' while maintaining weight and structural integrity targets. You can call it a challenge if you like the basic idea



Unless of course they are retractable rather than VG?


Jezza, a fine exercise in 'missing the point' I think. Why are Raptor fans so over sensitive?

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reply posted on 12-3-2007 @ 08:44 AM by Jezza


Hey waynos how are you?
i think the raptor and f-35 are boring in the scheme of things.
me personally liked the yf-23.
Cheers mate



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reply posted on 13-3-2007 @ 11:33 PM by Dragon12


The coolest prototype I have seen is the X-29 Switchblade, but then what do I know, I still think the F4-Phantom is cool.



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reply posted on 13-3-2007 @ 11:40 PM by emile


Planeman, you are prescient, Chinese new carrier AWAC will designed as joint wing like this, you may not believe.
image source: http://mar13c.imghost.us/Qs4z.jpg


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reply posted on 14-3-2007 @ 03:44 AM by wawlam



Originally posted by emile
Chinese new carrier AWAC will designed as joint wing like this, you may not believe.
image source: http://mar13c.imghost.us/Qs4z.jpg


[edit on 13-3-2007 by emile]



It sounds exciting. Do you think the Chinese will have the ability and courage that making their design a real product in the near future? Are there any problems with them?



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reply posted on 14-3-2007 @ 11:30 AM by ShatteredSkies


For me the coolest thing I've ever seen was the XF-108 Rapier and the YF-23.

Too bad the cool ones never get built.

Shattered OUT...



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reply posted on 14-3-2007 @ 01:52 PM by st3ve_o


nice aircraft, but with the ucavs (cheaper and better) around the corner it could be a waste of money.

thats why i don't understand why we (britain) are spending billions on the f-35, we might as well wait.



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reply posted on 14-3-2007 @ 01:53 PM by ShatteredSkies


Well you're expecting UCAVs are going to replace manned flight altogether.

Shattered OUT...



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reply posted on 14-3-2007 @ 11:28 PM by emile



Originally posted by wawlam

Originally posted by emile
Chinese new carrier AWAC will designed as joint wing like this, you may not believe.
image source: http://mar13c.imghost.us/Qs4z.jpg


[edit on 13-3-2007 by emile]



It sounds exciting. Do you think the Chinese will have the ability and courage that making their design a real product in the near future? Are there any problems with them?


Technique of joint wing isn't so complicated as your envision.



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reply posted on 19-3-2007 @ 12:01 AM by planeman


Latest concept, a VTOL fighter with a very narrow fuselage and wings that fold almost at the root so that it takes up least space on carrier:



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reply posted on 26-3-2007 @ 11:38 PM by planeman





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reply posted on 27-3-2007 @ 04:54 PM by waynos


Am I being thick mate or is that Ka-26 swimming



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reply posted on 27-3-2007 @ 08:21 PM by Browno


Howabout a fighter version of the Aurora?



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reply posted on 30-3-2007 @ 05:20 AM by Ghost01


In my oppinion the coolest looking fighter concepts ever cerated were the:

F-23
Monogram F-19 model
and General Dynamics' "Sneeky Pete" concept

Cheers!

Tim



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reply posted on 5-5-2008 @ 08:16 PM by macboffin



Originally posted by ShatteredSkies
Well you're expecting UCAVs are going to replace manned flight altogether.

Shattered OUT...
No! Not all manned flight ; (how would you fly to your Costa del Sol holiday ? Virtual flight? But ; there is little necessity for piloted strike aircraft, missile-equipped Predators have adequately demonstrated that! Without the weight and size of a pilot and his bang-seat, oxygen supply, need to see out clearly, etc etc, and his personal limitations, (ie G limitations, need to sleep, eat, and take a dump now nd again, the aerial vehicle can be far more efficient, and just as important, a more agile and smaller target. Also. no need for an enormous supporting pyramid of man-power to support pilots, aircraft, equipment, large airfields, etc etc. Nor for an enormous tax-swilling aviation industry.



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reply posted on 6-5-2008 @ 08:48 AM by James R. Hawkwood


I find these designs sooooo cool that the Americans and Russians NEED to build them!:

Some Russian SF fighter/bomber:



PAK FA NEEDS to look like this!! It just has to be!:



Something wich the Americans would just cream their pants by just the thought off it:







Thats right, a full blown stealth F14!!!

Those are the things that NEED to get built.



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