How the NSA spy on YOU

I am told there are more than 300,000 people working for the NSA who spend their whole time listening in and out of phone calls and reading email. This clip details how they check your emails.

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That's fine with me considering I don't tend to have e-mail conversations with Saed in Iran about large shipments of fertilizer. Do you?

The only thing the NSA will find reading my e-mails is an exhorbant amount of pornography!

That number seems a bit high to me. 300M in the US, 200M between 14 and 64. So 300K watching ~ 200M, would mean that there is one person reading/listening for about every 666 people. Then again ...

Whoever is tracking me must be bored out of their skull.

"How's the progress on Subject 849-AlphaC?"

"She's on ATS....again."

"As we suspected...."

Yeah, not that I have anything worth the time of the NSA, but sometimes, I think some conversations are better had in person than on the telephone, or on AIM/Email etc.

Originally posted by Skeet0rz
Yeah, not that I have anything worth the time of the NSA, but sometimes, I think some conversations are better had in person than on the telephone, or on AIM/Email etc.

My thoughts exactly. I have zero sympathy for anyone who is foolish enough to discuss illegal activities on the telephone or over the net. I watch shows on CourtTV, A&E and the type. I am constantly amazed at the true stories of how people are always caught on tape or their hard drive bragging about their crimes. Sometimes they are so careful to plan for the smallest detail but completely overlook the simple things. They deserve everything they get!

Originally posted by Rasputin13
That's fine with me considering I don't tend to have e-mail conversations with Saed in Iran about large shipments of fertilizer. Do you?

The only thing the NSA will find reading my e-mails is an exhorbant amount of pornography!

Fine with you? Fine with you?!

Does it matter what they find? What does matter is that reading our e-mail is a gross violation of our Constitutional rights!

Doesn't even matter if the video is accurate or not, the concept of freedom must always be upheld.

Our freedoms are not being withheld - they're merely being observed.

Seriously, I don't see much harm in this if you're a regular joe.

Its not just illegal activity their watching. They can pick up personal details and compile a dossier on you. Huge databases are compiled on all of us linking together everything. Type in your name and see your whole life, right there, even things you thought were private. The AI does it automatically, humans dont need to be involved in compiling it, AI brings to their attention 'weird' patterns and automatically stores all sorts of 'useless' data for future trend comparison.

How secure is this? Identity theft? Embarissing blackmail extortion?

Got a medical condition you dont want your health insurance of employer to find out about?

Do you like people knowing how much you make and what you buy?

Where you go? Who you know? What you think?

Its like 1984, Big Brother had so much information on poor winston from watching him on the telescreens all his life that they could read his mind just by watching his face. And this is real! You can psychoanalyze people based on how they walk, or talk, facial expressions...

When you have a huge dossier to compare it too...

This much power is just asking to be abused. The old, "I ain' g't nuthin 'o hide so wat do I e're ?" just doesnt cut it, prole.




[edit on 3/13/2007 by sp00n1]

Hmmmm...let me think about this one for a while.

I was born on a military base, my entire medical history from 1974-1985 is on military record, I was a military dependant until I was 21.

I was diagnosed with schizoaffective disorder over 10 years ago and already have a substantial record of my case on file with several hospitals and theraputic centers.

I'm also on disability due to my condition, and I bank with a Federal Bank.

I think they already know who I am.

My father, while he was enlisted, worked with some pretty high clearance on some NSA issues, and he's able to check with his buddies in the FBI on me anytime he wants.

Funny - the FBI doesn't have a casefile on me. My father, who I rarely talk to, made certain I was aware of this fact. There is simply nothing going on in my lifestyle that would even warrant such interest to compile a dossier on me.

Now, considering I've been familiar with the topic more or less since the age I was able to understand what it was all about....tell me again why I should get upset, paranoid, distrust my government and begin behaving like some lost sheep simply because someone on a conspiracy board says I should.

(Prole? Honey - not quite.)

The majority of this debate is based on worst case scenarios and speculation on HOW this information is going to be used.

if you insist on running with it - by all means. Go for it.


[edit on 13-3-2007 by GENERAL EYES]

One, it does nothing to stop terrorism. This program of AI SIG INT has been going on since at least the 70's, and they still cant find osama?

Two, it violates the constitution. Plain and simple. The government violating the very document that enables it existence? Ironic...

Three, while serving no purpose it provides plenty of opportunities to harm innocent people. I pay taxes to stop criminals, not to enable criminals to harass innocent people.

The NSA having huge databases on all of us is not going to show up in an FBI file, they are entirely separate agencies operating entirely separate programs and putting extremely highly classified material in an FBI file defeats the purpose. Plus, how do you store all that paperwork? and make any sense of it without the huge array of supercomputer databanks stored underground at Ft. Meade and various other places around the world?

And why would the FBI have a "casefile" on you unless there was a case?

Hospitals having medical records that they need to treat you is one thing, but anybody having not only your medical files, but all your financial, legal, private correspondence, and every other record on you linked together at the fingertips for absolutely no purpose?

Why the hell do they need to spy on me? Why do they need to constantly suspect me of evil? What ever happened to the 4th amendment? or the 6th? No unwarranted search or seizure, innocent until proven guilty?

Prole'd 'way I g'ess.

Why does my bank need to constantly suspect me of drug running, money laundering, and being a terrorist? Why do i get stuck with friggin suspicious activity reports whenever i try to get a cashiers check, money order, or cash withdrawal over $1000?

This program is so far above top secret that people working on it dont know what they;re involved in. Why would you're father know anything about it? What was his need to know?


Its not like he's some computer engineer with consulting ties to the intelligence community.....