Originally posted by kroms33
Originally posted by millerman
NO GOVERNMENT has met with Greer? And you know that.... how?
Again, what is it you think he's been doing for the past 15 years?
I know it, because if he met with an actual government (thousands of people that make the wheels go round and round - supposedly to do it's
citizenries bidding - in a democratic country - then there would have been a massive scale conference with these thousands of individuals). I nor
anyone else have heard of any of this taking place...
Of course not! Because there are elements in the shadow government that actively keep such things sanitized out of the mainstream media - and here
again, you would know that if you had read all of the book, and done all the relevant research on the shadow government.... like for example the FOIA
government document at disclosureproject.org that talks about CIA involvement in sanitizing the newsmedia....
Also, meeting with actually the ENTIRE government of a country all at once, thousands of people - that's absurd! That never happens anyway! Such
things are handled with much smaller committees and councils etc...
Coming to his defense because I see him being called a nut, a kook, a dupe, a fraud, a 'tin foil hat wearing IDIOT', a 'False
Prophet', a 'UFO Messiah'.... because I see him not merely being discussed and debated, but being ATTACKED AND RIDICULED....
You are not understanding my point of view. (god, I am running low on the 6500 characters to type LOL). I will give you that I have issued a bit of
'name calling' but, believe me it was done in a constructive way that meant no offense to you or anyone else.
LMAO!
'Constructive' name-calling? Calling him a kook and a fraud and a False Prophet, but in a GOOD way? ROFL......
I can see now that this is basically a religious issue.
Well, I'd prefer the term spiritual, as to me 'religious' invokes thought of Christians, Muslims, Jews etc, and we're not really dealing with that
level.
But yes, it IS a spiritual issue, and I have been trying to explain why.
Say you're one of the real hardcore atheistic scientific types, and you have a series of UFO/ET encounters, and say you can suspend disbelief for a
minute and assume Greer is telling the truth....
And what you find in all these ET encounters is that ALL the ETs are these really peaceful and spiritual beings, who communicate with you using ONLY
telepathy, and they're sitting there in the UFO jacked in to the craft with these Remote Viewing helmets, and they even let you put one on and BAM -
you can instantly see anything, any place in the whole universe you want....
You'd freak right out, right? As an atheist who doesn't BELIEVE in things like telepathy, who doesn't BELIEVE in the interconnectedness of all
things.... you would have NO way of processing that reality! The cognitive dissonance would drive you right bonkers!
It IS absolutely a spiritual issue - because it is IMPOSSIBLE to even make sense of the ET reality without an understanding of the nexus where science
and spirituality meet, the nexus where all matter and energy and consciousness are One...
And that is why the ETs don't even bother trying to deal with people that don't have that prerequisite "cosmic consciousness" - because if they
try to approach people like that, they get SHOT AT!
(Assuming Greer is telling the truth, of course!)
Now, do I know these things for a fact yet? No. I am only trying to explain where Greer is coming from, and why he introduces spirituality into things
that, to you, should be approached in a strictly scientific way.
To HIM, because of the experiences HE has had.... it is impossible to take the spirituality out of the equation, because it is an inherent part of
that whole reality.
I am not attacking him: My stance - repeated for the record stands as "He should have kept spirituality out of the matrix of his quest because
NOW no acting scientific minds or government will take him seriously."
And weather you like it or not - that is a fact.
Says YOU. But when you listen to all his radio interviews and stuff like that, it sure sounds like people are taking him seriously, and of course if
this major imminent contact event does take place, that'll be the proof in the pudding....
Of course it's not a factually based argument - because the event hasn't happened yet! He is being understandably cautious about how
much information he gives out, because he's talking about an event which would change the entire world!
what is the time frame then?
Well how am I supposed to know the time frame? He didn't say! All he said was it was "imminent" - that could mean days, weeks, months.... hopefully
no more than a year.... As I said, be patient, and wait and see....
and what has Greer come through before on??
Sigh.
The NPC media conference. The army of military/intelligence/corporate whistleblowers coming forward, with a whole tonne of documentation and A/V
evidence.
Now has he produced an ET carcass, or a working ET craft, or a working zero-point energy device?
No - because such things, the absolute smoking gun proof, are HEAVILY HEAVILY GUARDED by the shadow government.
Which you would understand, if you had done all the research. Like reading his whole book.
[edit on 15-3-2007 by millerman]
That's my 2 cents anyway.
